Baseball Pissing Match

[IAmMarquette]

Once again you say?  I realize it didn't get them anywhere but the Cubs had the best record in the National League last year.  Please don't lump this season into last.

You could make the argument that their record was a reflection of the rest of the division (even though the NL Central also produced the Wild Card). It was pretty clear that the team with the best record wasn't close to the best team last year.

[TallTitan34]

Many people believed the Cubs were the best team in the NL last year going into the playoffs.  Granted they didn't show that in the postseason.

[LON]

Many people believed the Cubs were the best team in the NL last year going into the playoffs.  Granted they didn't show that in the postseason.

Many people thought the earth was flat

[muwarrior87]

Many people thought the earth was flat

zing!

[MarquetteFan94]

You could make the argument that their record was a reflection of the rest of the division (even though the NL Central also produced the Wild Card). It was pretty clear that the team with the best record wasn't close to the best team last year.

You could make that argument but it would be wrong.  The NL Central had 4 teams that were at least 10 games above .500 last year...best in the NL.  Only the AL East could say the same. There is no denying the Cubs were the best team in the league going into the playoffs....also no denying they choked once they got there.

Why are we talking about last year again?

[LON]

zing!

/stands up, takes bow
//falls flat on face

[TallTitan34]

Zambrano now to the DL and Aramis is out for a few days as his shoulder is barking. 

Somehow they've kept up despite the injuries.  Hopefully they can get the split of the Rockies tonight!

[TallTitan34]

Also nice to see the Brewers pickup of David "Stormy" Wethers.  Should be a nice addition along with Corey Patterson.

[🏀]

Also nice to see the Brewers pickup of David "Stormy" Wethers.  Should be a nice addition along with Corey Patterson.

The Brewers are rocking the boat that is the NL Central with the STORMY.

[LON]

Castro fired.

Hall DFA'd (finally).

Hardy optioned to AAA

They are doing some cleaning at Miller Park today...I am not upset with the moves so far.

[Skatastrophy]

Castro fired.

Hall DFA'd (finally).

Hardy optioned to AAA

They are doing some cleaning at Miller Park today...I am not upset with the moves so far.

article:  http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/53047852.html

[robmufan]

So does that mean that the brewers are getting rid of/dropping the "future of the team" to bring up more people (including #1 prospect) that they will label as "future of the team"...

I know the brewers spent money on Braun to keep him in town, but until they spend money on some Free Agents that will actually make a difference (Suppan and Looper are not big Free Agents) they are going to hang with the division in the first half, and then just dwindle away

[TallTitan34]

Braun must really like Milwaukee because that deal he signed was a joke.  I think he could make 2 or three time that even with the bad economy.

[robmufan]

He is top dog of the franchise now that CC isn't carrying them to the playoffs!

Some people will take an ego booster instead of more money!

[GGGG]

So does that mean that the brewers are getting rid of/dropping the "future of the team" to bring up more people (including #1 prospect) that they will label as "future of the team"...

I know the brewers spent money on Braun to keep him in town, but until they spend money on some Free Agents that will actually make a difference (Suppan and Looper are not big Free Agents) they are going to hang with the division in the first half, and then just dwindle away

It would be better if they could develop their own pitchers, but there is no help coming from the minors for a couple of years. 

I like getting Escobar up here and telling him he has the rest of the year without Hardy looking over his shoulder.  They can see what he's really got at this level before figuring out what to do.  I wonder if Hardy will be at third next year, but then what do you do with Gamel?  I think they will also need some seasoned outfielder for next year.

[LON]

It would be better if they could develop their own pitchers, but there is no help coming from the minors for a couple of years. 

I like getting Escobar up here and telling him he has the rest of the year without Hardy looking over his shoulder.  They can see what he's really got at this level before figuring out what to do.  I wonder if Hardy will be at third next year, but then what do you do with Gamel?  I think they will also need some seasoned outfielder for next year.

Get rid of Hart and put Gamel in left? (Even if they don't move Gamel to LF, still get rid of Hart).

[robmufan]

Get rid of Hart and put Gamel in left? (Even if they don't move Gamel to LF, still get rid of Hart).

LF?  Is braun leaving?

[Skatastrophy]

LF?  Is braun leaving?

Lance is clearly confused

[LON]

Lance is clearly confused

Clearly, sorry I of course meant RF.

[Hards Alumni]

About time things got shaken up.

starting lineup 2010

C - Jason Kendall
1B - Prince Fielder
2B - Rickie Weeks
SS - Alciedes Escobar
3B - Casey McGehee
LF - Matt Gamel
CF - Corey Hart
RF - Ryan Braun

Ryan Braun is moved to RF because he is more athletic than Gamel.  Hardy is traded in the offseason for some pitching.

SP
1 - Yovanni Gallardo
2 - ?
3 - Braden Looper (God help us)
4 - Dave Bush
5 - Jeff Suppan

basically, we are screwed for pitching for a while.

[GOMU1104]

About time things got shaken up.

starting lineup 2010

C - Jason Kendall
1B - Prince Fielder
2B - Rickie Weeks
SS - Alciedes Escobar
3B - Casey McGehee
LF - Matt Gamel
CF - Corey Hart
RF - Ryan Braun

Ryan Braun is moved to RF because he is more athletic than Gamel.  Hardy is traded in the offseason for some pitching.

SP
1 - Yovanni Gallardo
2 - ?
3 - Braden Looper (God help us)
4 - Dave Bush
5 - Jeff Suppan

basically, we are screwed for pitching for a while.

Cam should be back in CF, hes the best option.

Build trades around Hart and Hardy.

[robmufan]

Cam should be back in CF, hes the best option.

Build trades around Hart and Hardy.

How can you build trades around a guy that was just demoted to the minors and has proven that he isn't a top notch shortstop?

[LON]

How can you build trades around a guy that was just demoted to the minors and has proven that he isn't a top notch shortstop?

The only reason Hardy stayed in the lineup was because of his defense...let's say he turns his swing around, there will be plenty of interest in his glove.

He is one of the best defensive SS

EDIT:  Kendall needs to be sent packing too.  He might as well have a plastic bat

[GOMU1104]

How can you build trades around a guy that was just demoted to the minors and has proven that he isn't a top notch shortstop?

Because...
-Escobar is the SS of the future
-There is nowhere to play Hardy, he wont move to 3B
-He is a FA after the 2010 season.

What do you want to do with him?

[GOMU1104]

The only reason Hardy stayed in the lineup was because of his defense...let's say he turns his swing around, there will be plenty of interest in his glove.

He is one of the best defensive SS

EDIT:  Kendall needs to be sent packing too.  He might as well have a plastic bat

If you need to worry about getting offense from you catcher, then your whole team is forked.  All a catcher needs to do is play defense and call a game, any offense you get from him is an added bonus.