For The Buzz Lovers

[4everwarriors]

If Williams is a strong recruiter and has obvious ties to Texas, why is it that TCU passed on him and we should embrace him? If the answer is largely that this recruiting class may all opt out if we don't hire him, then so be it. I'd rather get the right coach than prostitute myself to a bunch of unproven athletes.

[groove]

I agree. The bottom line is if you just looked at his resume he wouldn't even be considered for the job. The only reason he is getting a look is because he is the assistant and the premise that he MIGHT get recruits to stay. That is a sorry ass excuse for hiring someone. A lazy hire

[Niv Berkowitz]

Regardless if Williams or Taylor stay this year, and my guess is that at least Otule or Fulce will come regardless, this MU squad is going to be very good. Provided the seniors all come back, I think they'll play with a chip on their shoulder and practically coach themselves (for better sometimes, for worse others).

Anyway, you gotta get the right guy for the future, long term. Not just the guy that could bring you Taylor and/or Williams. If Lowery leaves, which of his top guys come to MU? C'mon Cottingham. Get to work.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Would Williams have stayed if Crean hadn't taken the Indiana job? 

[MarquetteVol]

Williams would have stayed. It was reported in a Colorado paper initially that Buzz said he would stay as HC or follow Crean to IU. Facing the prospect of moving again, he asked the reporter to pray for his family. I think Buzz wants to settle into place, he's just had some tough luck between Gillespie leaving Texas AM, New Orleans turning out to be a disaster job and Crean bolting.

[MUshrooms]

Williams would have stayed. It was reported in a Colorado paper initially that Buzz said he would stay as HC or follow Crean to IU. Facing the prospect of moving again, he asked the reporter to pray for his family. I think Buzz wants to settle into place, he's just had some tough luck between Gillespie leaving Texas AM, New Orleans turning out to be a disaster job and Crean bolting.

You think Buzz wants to settle into place?  I love when people talk like they know what these coaches are thinking.

[bma725]

Would Williams have stayed if Crean hadn't taken the Indiana job? 

Probably, given that he liked Crean so much he turned down more money from UK to reunite with BCG.

[Big Papi]

If Williams is a strong recruiter and has obvious ties to Texas, why is it that TCU passed on him and we should embrace him? If the answer is largely that this recruiting class may all opt out if we don't hire him, then so be it. I'd rather get the right coach than prostitute myself to a bunch of unproven athletes.

Why has McKillop been at Davidson for an eternity?
Why did Indiana pass up Brownell?

We can go on and on if you want.

The answer is not largely about this recruiting class.  It is quite obvious that both Nick Williams and Ty Taylor are going elsewhere.  IT is about Buzz being a great recruiter.  A great personality.  A very hard worker and more.  And all of those traits were brought up by numerous individuals way earlier than the last few days.  Now I don't know if he is the right person for the job but unless you have been around Buzz this year or were invovled in the interview, the fact that he is a finalist for the position speaks volumes about his ability.

So back to your original bashing.  Why did TCU pass on Buzz?  Heck I don't know if they even interviewed Buzz but how about maybe instead of bashing Buzz you say nothing or bash TCU.  There is a reason why they haven't been good for a long long time.  Maybe they don't have resources or the ability to hire a good coach.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Would Williams have stayed if Crean hadn't taken the Indiana job? 

Probably, given that he liked Crean so much he turned down more money from UK to reunite with BCG.

Wrong.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

IT is about Buzz being a great recruiter.  

Who are these great recruits he brought to Colorado St., Texas A&M and Marquette?

[nyg]

What about the Texas A&M-Kingsville and Northwestern State recruits?

[bma725]

Would Williams have stayed if Crean hadn't taken the Indiana job? 

Probably, given that he liked Crean so much he turned down more money from UK to reunite with BCG.

Wrong.

BCG wanted Buzz once he decided he was leaving UNO, and offered more than the salary you said was ridiculous for an assistant.  He turned it down to come to MU. 

I don't think he's a great choice for the next head coach, but some fairly well thought of coaches seem to think he's the real deal.

[Big Papi]

IT is about Buzz being a great recruiter.  

Who are these great recruits he brought to Colorado St., Texas A&M and Marquette?

Not even worth my time as its obvious you dont like the guy.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

IT is about Buzz being a great recruiter.  

Who are these great recruits he brought to Colorado St., Texas A&M and Marquette?

Not even worth my time as its obvious you dont like the guy.

Don't like him? I have never heard a peep out of him. He could very well be the best guy in the world. I do know he's probably a much better guy than our previous coach. I just don't think he's qualifed to by our head coach. Not even close, really.

And I think it's pathetic that our Board -- the captains of industry -- are letting teenagers decide who the university's most high profile employee is going ot be. Just as they let our previous coach convince them that "Gold" was a good idea.

But if they name him, I'll certainly be rooting for him. 

[Coobeys Oil Depot]

If Williams is a strong recruiter and has obvious ties to Texas, why is it that TCU passed on him and we should embrace him? If the answer is largely that this recruiting class may all opt out if we don't hire him, then so be it. I'd rather get the right coach than prostitute myself to a bunch of unproven athletes.

On this we agree 100%. It just seems to me that the 2008 class/Erik Williams is the most important factor here. Even if Buzz is hired, we are going to lose the two best players in the class in NW and TT so what's the fucking point?

And, if the talk of Buzz saying publicly it's either MU HC or IU AC it looks like he will definitely be our coach. Reports are that Crean has invited Stan Joplin to be an Assistant along with Tim Buckley and Bennie Seltzer. That's 3 spots filled unless Buzz is taking a massive pay cut to become a Director of BB Operations.

[muguru]

What if it has more to do with keeping Jerel and Dom here this next year?? You can always find recruits, even this late in the game, but if Rel and Dom were to leave....I don't even want to imagine what next season would be like....but, if they stay, they should easily be an NCAA team again. If that is their thinking, I can sign up for Buzz as I have ZERO interest in seeing MU playing in the NIT or CBI next year. They have 3 straight NCAA's now, let's make it four...then five...then...

Worry about the ramifications of this move in '09 and future years when they get here.

[Big Papi]

IT is about Buzz being a great recruiter.  

Who are these great recruits he brought to Colorado St., Texas A&M and Marquette?

Not even worth my time as its obvious you dont like the guy.

Don't like him? I have never heard a peep out of him. He could very well be the best guy in the world. I do know he's probably a much better guy than our previous coach. I just don't think he's qualifed to by our head coach. Not even close, really.

And I think it's pathetic that our Board -- the captains of industry -- are letting teenagers decide who the university's most high profile employee is going ot be. Just as they let our previous coach convince them that "Gold" was a good idea.

But if they name him, I'll certainly be rooting for him. 

Look.  I don't know if he is the best candidate either but the one thing that the guy can do is recruit.  2 top 10 recruiting class while at Texas A&M. Texas A&M we are talking about here.  He was also listed as one of the top 25 recruits by Rivals for 2006.  Finally Colorado St., another program that hadn't had any real success in college basketball made the NCAA tourny after a 13 year drought due in large part to Buzz.  Add in Ty Taylor and Erik Williams at MU and that up until this week we were the front runners for Jamil Wilson who Buzz was heavily involved with and you can't really question his recruiting ability.  Its real good.   

His coaching skills might be a different matter but I have read lots of articles on the guy and the Colorado St coach had extremely high praise for Buzz and his coaching ability.  Something along the lines of he had all the responsibilities of a head coach except for calling the timeouts.  Again we are talking about a program that sucked, that made the NCAA tourny all with Buzz being a huge contributer.   If he is hired, it will be because he was the best choice out of what we had available.