Tipping Fatigue

[The Sultan]

I wish I could eat manatee, but my cardiologist wants me to try to stay with the "Healthy Heart" diet, and manatee has such a high fat content that I have to abstain from it. There are a number of Healthy Heart diet lists out there and I have been trying to find one that includes ice cream, but so far? No luck at all.

My understanding is that if you hit it with a boat propeller, you can cut through the fat and get right to the good stuff.

[jesmu84]

I now tip 15 percent generally instead of 20 because of no taxes on tips.  Everyone should pay taxes.

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[MuggsyB]

I'd recommend manatee if you haven't had the opportunity. They were specifically created by god to be consumed.

This is ignominious and beyond unacceptable.  The world would be peaceful if everyone had the temperament of manatees.  Those that defile or tarnish the greatness of these marine mammals should be reprimanded quite harshly. 

[Badgerhater]

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And?

I've observed that most people don't tip as well as they say they do.

[jesmu84]

And?

I've observed that most people don't tip as well as they say they do.

And it means you don't understand the details behind "no tax on tips" legislation and you're ridiculous for trying to punish working class Americans.

[Shaka Shart]

They still have to be skilled.  I don't get the dentist obsession in this thread. 

I can buy a drill I know how to use at Home Depot. I'm not going around claiming I'm a "doctor" by doing that though

[MU82]

Like "no tax on Social Security," "no tax on tips" doesn't really mean what the politicians who pushed it say it means.

Only the first $25K in tips can be deducted from a worker's income. Lots of servers at good restaurants earn considerably more than that and are taxed fully on $25,001+. Also, all tip income is still subject to FICA and, in many states, state income taxes.

Social Security is not tax free at all to those age 62-64, nor to those with $75K in income (150K for MFJ). It's just a $6K deduction ($12K for MFJ) for those 65+, even those who aren't receiving SS, as long as they don't make too much.

[jesmu84]

Like "no tax on Social Security," "no tax on tips" doesn't really mean what the politicians who pushed it say it means.

Only the first $25K in tips can be deducted from a worker's income. Lots of servers at good restaurants earn considerably more than that and are taxed fully on $25,001+. Also, all tip income is still subject to FICA and, in many states, state income taxes.

Social Security is not tax free at all to those age 62-64, nor to those with $75K in income (150K) for couples. All it is is a deduction for those 65+, even those who aren't receiving SS, as long as they don't make too much.

Not to mention most service sector workers who work in tip jobs will not claim "no tax on tips" as they make too little and the standard deduction is better for them

[MU82]

Not to mention most service sector workers who work in tip jobs will not claim "no tax on tips" as they make too little and the standard deduction is better for them

But I'll give the WH occupant credit for a good political maneuver. Most Dems have said they are in favor of keeping it going forward.

[Jay Bee]

Only the first $25K in tips can be deducted from a worker's income. Lots of servers at good restaurants earn considerably more than that and are taxed fully on $25,001+. Also, all tip income is still subject to FICA and, in many states, state income taxes.

Correct. Put a better way, the "no tax on tips" means no FEDERAL IMCOME TAX. So, gig worker ubering or delivering still is subject to SE PR taxes (eg, 15.3%) up to the max, and state taxes.

It's cool, but not as meaningful as other things.

[Spotcheck Billy]

I still tip with cash whenever possible. 

[Jay Bee]

I still tip with cash whenever possible.

Surprised you can figure out how to post on this website.

Cash is nasty — "elimination" of pennies is a great step, but more needs to be done.

[MU82]

I still tip with cash whenever possible.

Back when most customers tipped with cash, there really was no tax on tips. Because the government can't tax what's not reported!

[Spotcheck Billy]

Surprised you can figure out how to post on this website.

Cash is nasty — "elimination" of pennies is a great step, but more needs to be done.

You do know that they have to report their tips and then take a tax credit for there to be "no tax on tips"? Not everyone can itemize that to reclaim it so if I give them cash they are grateful. Try it yourself sometime. Others have mentioned the additional taxes besides Federal.

[Jay Bee]

You do know that they have to report their tips and then take a tax credit for there to be "no tax on tips"? Not everyone can itemize that to reclaim it so if I give them cash they are grateful. Try it yourself sometime. Others have mentioned the additional taxes besides Federal.

That's tax fraud. Shame!

[WarriorFan]

I stick to the old rule... If'm I'm standing up when I pay, there's no tip.  That means no at coffee shops, ice cream parlor, food trucks, etc.  I tip well at restaurants and barber shop.  I tip the pianist or whatever musician is playing to entertain the guests.  I tip delivery drivers a little... 10%.  I tip Uber 10%.  When it's one of those machines, I ask the server - "if I tip this way, do you get it"?  No fatigue here... my wife and I just stick to these rules!