EVs-Revisited

[muwarrior69]

I jumped on an extremely cheap Ioniq 5 lease (zero down, $128/mo) last summer.  It's a really nice vehicle.  Quiet, lots of range, lots of power, I get free "fuel" at home (solar), at work (provided), and the local ski area. 

Like you, I had a punctured tire in December, large chunk of what I think was a semi's tire chain.  Anyhow, the car only comes with "slime" and an inflator, but the puncture was too big.  Hyundai towed me to the nearest dealership (for free), and I paid $45 for a tire plug.  Since then though, I think the slime gummed up the tire pressure sensor, so I need to go back in to get that serviced.

I'm also now carrying more standard tire plugs and rubber cement in case it happens again.

You got your solar panels for free? 

[Hards Alumni]

You got your solar panels for free?

So, unfortunately, there is a 'deal' the power companies and other private businesses have where they put the panels up and then lease them to the home owner.  I don't want to call it a scam, but it's basically a scam. 

Just purchase them and have someone install them.  There is no reason for any payment plan or lease, or any of that other nonsense.

[jesmu84]

You got your solar panels for free?

He said the fuel was free. Not the panels were free.

[Jay Bee]

He said the fuel was free. Not the panels were free.

If you bought a CD and listen to it, is the music free?

[jesmu84]

If you bought a CD and listen to it, is the music free?

Is the music an energy source for powering another object?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Is the music an energy source for powering another object?

I mean...I've gone home from the gym when I realized that I forgot my buds...so, yes? 

[rocky_warrior]

He said the fuel was free. Not the panels were free.

Right.  The PV system was a pretty good deal, not free.  And produces about 20% more electricity than I use on an annual basis.

Yes, we have solar, 22 kwh system, and pay the solar company $225 a month on 20 year lease to purchase.

That's a GIANT system!  I paid for mine outright, only 9.6kw but also with a Powerwall 3 for whole-home backup.  Almost exactly $20k after all state and federal rebates. 

But yes JB, now that' I've invested in the PV I don't have to pay any additional royalties for my use of the electric.

[Hards Alumni]

Right.  The PV system was a pretty good deal, not free.  And produces about 20% more electricity than I use on an annual basis.

That's a GIANT system!  I paid for mine outright, only 9.6kw but also with a Powerwall 3 for whole-home backup.  Almost exactly $20k after all state and federal rebates. 

But yes JB, now that' I've invested in the PV I don't have to pay any additional royalties for my use of the electric.

The power company installed a power plant on his house and is only charging him 270% more over the lifetime of the unit than you paid! 

Plus, I'm sure you sell back your 20% to the power company, Rocky.  I wonder if the power company is crediting muwarrior69.

[jesmu84]

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why we don't incentivize homeowners to install solar and then send excess/unused energy to support needs across the grid

How is that not a win for all parties??

[Uncle Rico]

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why we don't incentivize homeowners to install solar and then send excess/unused energy to support needs across the grid

How is that not a win for all parties??

Maybe in two years we can revisit this

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why we don't incentivize homeowners to install solar and then send excess/unused energy to support needs across the grid

How is that not a win for all parties??

Because solar panels drive whales crazy

[rocky_warrior]

Because solar panels drive whales crazy

And have you not seen them leaching poisonous chemicals when it rains!?!

(that one's super amusing, as if they're made from anything that will dissolve more than your car will dissolve)