Rate Sheek's Transfer News

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Feel free to vent in the comments.  No one reads them anyway.

[Billy Hoyle]

It's not like Joey could have played when he first enrolled. He came to MU to rehab the ankle injury that prevented him from playing during his final year of high school.

For me the impact will depend on where Sheek ends up. The Hausers and Mbakwe all ended up in the Big Ten. If we lose Sheek to SLU then that's an additional  punch in the gut.

[Jay Bee]

For me the impact will depend on where Sheek ends up. The Hausers and Mbakwe all ended up in the Big Ten. If we lose Sheek to SLU then that's an additional  punch in the gut.

#FakeNews #Lies and #FlawedLogic

I don't recall Sam ending up in the Big Ten.

As for SLU vs Big Ten, today it actually makes MORE sense and isn't a gut punch — the Big Ten has no room for direct payments. SLU does. Therefore, SLU or another MM makes more sense for Sheek at this point than a "P4" school does.

[WearGold]

#FakeNews #Lies and #FlawedLogic

I don't recall Sam ending up in the Big Ten.

As for SLU vs Big Ten, today it actually makes MORE sense and isn't a gut punch — the Big Ten has no room for direct payments. SLU does. Therefore, SLU or another MM makes more sense for Sheek at this point than a "P4" school does.

If Sheek ends up at SL or similar, the whole episode will be more of a gut slap than a punch. It will also be an indication that he felt log jammed by Hamilton and Clark.

[The Sultan]

If Sheek ends up at SL or similar, the whole episode will be more of a gut slap than a punch. It will also be an indication that he felt log jammed by Hamilton and Clark.

Or that SLU is located in his hometown and has a bunch of NIL money.

[BM1090]

If Sheek ends up at SL or similar, the whole episode will be more of a gut slap than a punch. It will also be an indication that he felt log jammed by Hamilton and Clark.

No it won't.

[Jay Bee]

If Sheek ends up at SL or similar, the whole episode will be more of a gut slap than a punch. It will also be an indication that he felt log jammed by Hamilton and Clark.

He did feel log jammed bc of 18 and it'll be some MM in all likelihood, but that's bc they can offer real bread.

[MU82]

He did feel log jammed bc of 18

When did Sheek tell you this? Have you two always been tight (pawz)?

[tower912]

College basketball, 2026.   Get used to it.

[Scoop Snoop]

When did Sheek tell you this? Have you two always been tight (pawz)?

With the high turnover of positions in DC, I think there are a lot of scoopers who would be hired simply because of their ability to create facts out of thin air.

Apologies for contaminating this thread with DC crap, but I think the analogy really fits, especially with a number of the posts regarding Sheek. Just state something as fact and it is the truth.

[Small Orange Soda]

Gonna have to thread the needle finding a guy who is going to be a backup while also telling him not to worry about the other two centers entering their third and fourth years in the program in a seller's market.

[MUpugnacity]

There seems to be a lot of confidence around here that Sheek would have been a contributor next year. For all we know he won't be any better than Clark or Hamilton. If he had been significantly better than Clark or Hamilton he probably wouldn't have redshirted.

Also, until one of Shaka's redshirts is actually good my assumption is they will all be failed development projects. All his successful development guys have shown flashes as true freshman.

[Tha Hound]

There seems to be a lot of confidence around here that Sheek would have been a contributor next year. For all we know he won't be any better than Clark or Hamilton. If he had been significantly better than Clark or Hamilton he probably wouldn't have redshirted.

Also, until one of Shaka's redshirts is actually good my assumption is they will all be failed development projects. All his successful development guys have shown flashes as true freshman.

Come on man

[Billy Hoyle]

#FakeNews #Lies and #FlawedLogic

I don't recall Sam ending up in the Big Ten.

As for SLU vs Big Ten, today it actually makes MORE sense and isn't a gut punch — the Big Ten has no room for direct payments. SLU does. Therefore, SLU or another MM makes more sense for Sheek at this point than a "P4" school does.

Fine, we lost Sam to the ACC to the defending national champs, but whatever. We lost those three to Power 4 schools.

The Big Ten does have plenty of room for direct payments. Most of those programs are dedicating at least 15% of the $21.3 million for next year's cap to basketball. They also have greater outside NIL resources to increase those payments. Michigan State, for example, has two guys alone making $2 million plus - Fears and Carr. Michigan had a $10+ million roster last year.

The optics of losing a highly rated recruit to a mid-major in a lesser conference are not good.

[MU82]

The optics of losing a highly rated recruit to a mid-major in a lesser conference are not good.

I'll be equally unhappy if we lose him to Duke, St. Louis or Chicago State. Doesn't matter. Just bummed we lost him.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Sheek's departure dampens my expectations for next season a little but not much. After whatever recalibration happened over Christmas Break last season, we played like a top 60 team. This was despite Caedin and Josh being our only backup centers. Given that we traded Fru for Gold (massive upgrade), Minessale for Ross (slight upgrade IMHO), will get a year of development from the 7 returners, and are bringing in four freshmen who should at least bring more value than Tre and Sean brought, I still expect a pretty big jump and a single digit seed in the NCAAT. Sheek's departure impacts next year's ceiling because I think he was one of the biggest wild cards on the roster. At bare minimum he'd improve the backup center position, and there was potential for him to be a major contributor, pushing us even higher.

Where Sheek's departure really hurts is the following season. He was supposed to be the center of the future. I don't believe we've been connected to any centers in the 2027 class (correct me if I'm wrong). While I don't have quite the level of disdain for Caedin and Josh that some do, I don't want to be in a situation where they are our only centers after Fru leaves. I was hopeful that in two years, Sheek could be a legit  starting center and we would not need to go hunting for a starting center in the portal next season, theoretically freeing up resources to bring in top talent at other positions.

If we go back to the portal this year to replace Sheek, I imagine it will be a guy with potential who may need a year to develop as a back up before being a starter. Problem is, that's a small pond with a lot of fishermen. Will be interesting to see how we pivot.

[Jay Bee]

Fine, we lost Sam to the ACC to the defending national champs, but whatever. We lost those three to Power 4 schools.

The Big Ten does have plenty of room for direct payments. Most of those programs are dedicating at least 15% of the $21.3 million for next year's cap to basketball.

Dude. 15% of $21.3M is $3.2M. And these teams have mostly full rosters. There's no meaningful direct payment money left for a Sheek - only the hopes of third-party deals, which have been very small this past year.

Meanwhile, a MM with room for direct payments can offer guaranteed money that will come through if they want to spend it. Apples and oranges. That's why you should expect Sheek to head to a MM or school with no or fake football.

[MU82]

Sheek's departure dampens my expectations for next season a little but not much. After whatever recalibration happened over Christmas Break last season, we played like a top 60 team. This was despite Caedin and Josh being our only backup centers. Given that we traded Fru for Gold (massive upgrade), Minessale for Ross (slight upgrade IMHO), will get a year of development from the 7 returners, and are bringing in four freshmen who should at least bring more value than Tre and Sean brought, I still expect a pretty big jump and a single digit seed in the NCAAT. Sheek's departure impacts next year's ceiling because I think he was one of the biggest wild cards on the roster. At bare minimum he'd improve the backup center position, and there was potential for him to be a major contributor, pushing us even higher.

Where Sheek's departure really hurts is the following season. He was supposed to be the center of the future. I don't believe we've been connected to any centers in the 2027 class (correct me if I'm wrong). While I don't have quite the level of disdain for Caedin and Josh that some do, I don't want to be in a situation where they are our only centers after Fru leaves. I was hopeful that in two years, Sheek could be a legit  starting center and we would need to go hunting for a starting center in the portal next season, theoretically freeing up resources to bring in top talent at other positions.

If we go back to the portal this year to replace Sheek, I imagine it will be a guy with potential who may need a year to develop as a back up before being a starter. Problem is, that's a small pond with a lot of fishermen. Will be interesting to see how we pivot.

Almost too reasonable for Scoop. But I would say that, as it mirrors my feelings exactly.

I thought Sheek could be to the 2026-27 team what Oso was to the 2021-22 team - a solid, young backup center who got progressively better as the season went on and then developed into a good starter the following season. So I'm bummed that we won't get the chance to see if that could have happened.

Lots of programs - including lots of really good programs - are starting to go the New Center Every Year route. I guess Marquette will have to join them.

[Shooter McGavin]

Sheek's departure dampens my expectations for next season a little but not much. After whatever recalibration happened over Christmas Break last season, we played like a top 60 team. This was despite Caedin and Josh being our only backup centers. Given that we traded Fru for Gold (massive upgrade), Minessale for Ross (slight upgrade IMHO), will get a year of development from the 7 returners, and are bringing in four freshmen who should at least bring more value than Tre and Sean brought, I still expect a pretty big jump and a single digit seed in the NCAAT. Sheek's departure impacts next year's ceiling because I think he was one of the biggest wild cards on the roster. At bare minimum he'd improve the backup center position, and there was potential for him to be a major contributor, pushing us even higher.

Where Sheek's departure really hurts is the following season. He was supposed to be the center of the future. I don't believe we've been connected to any centers in the 2027 class (correct me if I'm wrong). While I don't have quite the level of disdain for Caedin and Josh that some do, I don't want to be in a situation where they are our only centers after Fru leaves. I was hopeful that in two years, Sheek could be a legit  starting center and we would need to go hunting for a starting center in the portal next season, theoretically freeing up resources to bring in top talent at other positions.

If we go back to the portal this year to replace Sheek, I imagine it will be a guy with potential who may need a year to develop as a back up before being a starter. Problem is, that's a small pond with a lot of fishermen. Will be interesting to see how we pivot.

I agree with all of the above.  Well said.

[NCMUFan]

Current state of College basketball is awesome.
If you lack at a current position, just rent someone.

[BCHoopster]

There was 10 or 12 average centers in the portal this year, if they were above average they would be going to the NBA, MU got one of them.  They will get one the next year, that's college hoops now. If you have enough money somebody will come.

[Jay Bee]

If you have enough money somebody will come.

u so naughty!!

[willie warrior]

College basketball, 2026.   Get used to it.

How true

[SaveOD238]

If we go back to the portal this year to replace Sheek, I imagine it will be a guy with potential who may need a year to develop as a back up before being a starter. Problem is, that's a small pond with a lot of fishermen. Will be interesting to see how we pivot.

It is small pond (can't teach height) but Shaka has a track record of sending guys like that to the NBA.  I'm sure that's part of what got Sheek here in the first place.  When recruiting, he can point to those successes.

So, while the pond is small, we at least have an experienced fisherman with a pretty good looking lure attempting to catch whatever fish remain.

[Hards Alumni]

There seems to be a lot of confidence around here that Sheek would have been a contributor next year. For all we know he won't be any better than Clark or Hamilton. If he had been significantly better than Clark or Hamilton he probably wouldn't have redshirted.

Also, until one of Shaka's redshirts is actually good my assumption is they will all be failed development projects. All his successful development guys have shown flashes as true freshman.

LOL