Sheek in the Portal?

[BCHoopster]

Depending on who the 5th starter is, $8-9 million.

BC, what do you think MU's budget is and how much do you thing the starting 5 is getting paid?
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Close to 10, so what is the rest of the 8 getting? That I do not know.

[K1 Lover]

Unlikely, but if the 5-for-5 rule passes very soon, current seniors are eligible, and the rumor that SheEK is heading to SLU is true, it could open a path for Robbie Avila to return to SLU for a fifth year. He would likely command strong NIL money there, and then SheEK might need to look at other programs (which he should have plenty of interest from) or potentially return to MU.

Would be nice, but sadly I think it's extremely unlikely. Schertz has reportedly said that he won't hold any spots in anticipation of 5-for-5 passing, and this seems to be confirmed by him bringing in Elijah Strong to presumably be their starting center. I'm not sure how many coaches are holding spots open for a potential 5th year senior, but I'm sure most would agree that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[K1 Lover]

Another thought I haven't seen mentioned though... if Sheek can be bought out by SLU, who's to say Marquette can't buy him back next year? Probably not super likely, but perhaps not super improbable either if we find ourselves in need of a starting center and Fru isn't able to return.

Saw this on the SLU message board, but after Sheek entered the portal, it was supposedly rumored by Royce Parham's father that Sheek was offered $1 mil to start at SLU next year. I don't think the latter part is accurate but if the price point is, I'm sure we could match the increase next offseason if we wanted to.

[GoldenEagles03]

Another thought I haven't seen mentioned though... if Sheek can be bought out by SLU, who's to say Marquette can't buy him back next year? Probably not super likely, but perhaps not super improbable either if we find ourselves in need of a starting center and Fru isn't able to return.

Saw this on the SLU message board, but after Sheek entered the portal, it was supposedly rumored by Royce Parham's father that Sheek was offered $1 mil to start at SLU next year. I don't think the latter part is accurate but if the price point is, I'm sure we could match the increase next offseason if we wanted to.

Sheek is getting offered quite a bit over 1 million dollars from St. Louis. It's almost 2x that from what I was told.

[K1 Lover]

Sheek is getting offered quite a bit over 1 million dollars from St. Louis. It's almost 2x that from what I was told.

If that's true, it'd be quite an impressive amount for a backup center who hasn't logged any official minutes in college basketball yet.

Regardless, I'm sure it's still less than whatever we're paying Fru this year. And if Fru isn't around next year, then hypothetically, one can only imagine that MU would have the financial resources to afford Sheek next year.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

No way. Guarantee staff was disappointed that Sheek left. It seems like if Clark not ready this coming season Sheek would have gotten 25 minutes between splitting center with Fru and power forward with Parham. It would have been a great three-deep big-man rotation with Clark adding depth in the event of foul trouble or injury.
Hamilton remaining on the roster extremely unnerving because he has shown that he can turn wins into losses extremely quickly, as he did in limited minutes vs. DePaul and in Big East Tourney vs. Xavier. I cringe every time I read "If he plays just 5 minutes, I'm fine with that." No. It completely re-energizes opponent when they see him check into game. If gives them a game plan at both ends. Attack him when he's on defense, don't guard him at all and doulbe someone else.

Zero chance Sheek was getting 25 MPG if everyone was healthy.

[GoldenEagles03]

If that's true, it'd be quite an impressive amount for a backup center who hasn't logged any official minutes in college basketball yet.

Regardless, I'm sure it's still less than whatever we're paying Fru this year. And if Fru isn't around next year, then hypothetically, one can only imagine that MU would have the financial resources to afford Sheek next year.

St. Louis doesn't want him to be a backup.

[K1 Lover]

St. Louis doesn't want him to be a backup.

If they opt to put Strong at the 4 instead, then sure.

[MU82]

I've been told that Sheek was offered $100 million to play all 40 minutes every game for St. Louis next season. And for every game that goes overtime, he'll get time and a half.

[MUDPT]

Another thought I haven't seen mentioned though... if Sheek can be bought out by SLU, who's to say Marquette can't buy him back next year? Probably not super likely, but perhaps not super improbable either if we find ourselves in need of a starting center and Fru isn't able to return.

Saw this on the SLU message board, but after Sheek entered the portal, it was supposedly rumored by Royce Parham's father that Sheek was offered $1 mil to start at SLU next year. I don't think the latter part is accurate but if the price point is, I'm sure we could match the increase next offseason if we wanted to.

It's not a rumor. It was on AE's FB page.

[Jay Bee]

It's not a rumor. It was on AE's FB page.

What does that make it then, if not a rumor?

[MUDPT]

What does that make it then, if not a rumor?

Hey Mr. Semantics, it's not a rumor that Royce's dad posted on AE's Facebook page. The monetary amount could be a rumor based on how reliable he is as a source.

[The Sultan]

No way. Guarantee staff was disappointed that Sheek left. It seems like if Clark not ready this coming season Sheek would have gotten 25 minutes between splitting center with Fru and power forward with Parham. It would have been a great three-deep big-man rotation with Clark adding depth in the event of foul trouble or injury.
Hamilton remaining on the roster extremely unnerving because he has shown that he can turn wins into losses extremely quickly, as he did in limited minutes vs. DePaul and in Big East Tourney vs. Xavier. I cringe every time I read "If he plays just 5 minutes, I'm fine with that." No. It completely re-energizes opponent when they see him check into game. If gives them a game plan at both ends. Attack him when he's on defense, don't guard him at all and doulbe someone else.

Sheek wouldn't have gotten 25 minutes a game. Not a chance.

And your second paragraph is complete hyperbole. It feels like some of you have decided to blame all of last year's issues on Hamilton, and its pretty ridiculous.

[Uncle Rico]

Sheek wouldn't have gotten 25 minutes a game. Not a chance.

And your second paragraph is completely hyperbole. It feels like some of you have decided to blame all of last year's issues on Hamilton, and its pretty ridiculous.

Every team needs a boogeyman

[Tarragona]

I've been told that Sheek was offered $100 million to play all 40 minutes every game for St. Louis next season. And for every game that goes overtime, he'll get time and a half.

Maybe someone needs to hire James Parham to manipulate markets, and along the way, get a little more bag for his son.

[MU90620]

My take on Hamilton is that he is a power big without the offensive weapons to punish teams that don't match up with him. He plays good defense against power bigs (Reid, Cluffe, Zuby) and his lack of offense doesn't hurt us because those aren't matchups you're really looking to exploit offensively anyway. Conversely, when you play a team like Xavier, he is lost chasing guys in a motion offense on the perimeter and he lacks the skill to punish the smaller weaker players guarding him on the other end.

This is why he can play 18 minutes against UConn and your eyes tell you he did a nice job. Then the next game against Xavier he plays 5 minutes and your eyes tell you that guy cost us the game. He is a situational defender against power teams, but unless he develops the tools to punish smaller defenders, he can't play when teams go small.

That being said, there is a role for him as is, but it's not a consistent one. It should be completely based on matchups.

[Jay Bee]

My take on Hamilton is that he is a power big without the offensive weapons to punish teams that don't match up with him. He plays good defense against power bigs (Reid, Cluffe, Zuby) and his lack of offense doesn't hurt us because those aren't matchups you're really looking to exploit offensively anyway.

Early Monday AM bender? Well done!

[Vander Blue Man Group]

My take on Hamilton is that he is a power big without the offensive weapons to punish teams that don't match up with him. He plays good defense against power bigs (Reid, Cluffe, Zuby) and his lack of offense doesn't hurt us because those aren't matchups you're really looking to exploit offensively anyway. Conversely, when you play a team like Xavier, he is lost chasing guys in a motion offense on the perimeter and he lacks the skill to punish the smaller weaker players guarding him on the other end.

This is why he can play 18 minutes against UConn and your eyes tell you he did a nice job. Then the next game against Xavier he plays 5 minutes and your eyes tell you that guy cost us the game. He is a situational defender against power teams, but unless he develops the tools to punish smaller defenders, he can't play when teams go small.

That being said, there is a role for him as is, but it's not a consistent one. It should be completely based on matchups.

I think a fair number of people here have a serious case of Hamilton Derangement Syndrome (HDS).  I don't care if the kid is on the team as long as his minutes are minimal.

However, and I don't say this to be mean, but I don't think there was a single game last year where I thought Hamilton did a nice job overall. 

[Galway Eagle]

However, and I don't say this to be mean, but I don't think there was a single game last year where I thought Hamilton did a nice job overall. 

I'll give him his game vs southern at the beginning of the year.

[MarquetteMike1977]

Have been taught Bottom Feeders have Bottom Feeder players. Last year we had the 2nd Most losses in the well over 100 year history of Marquette Basketball and were Bottom Feeders. Players like Travis and Steve were National Finalists in AAU Nation Wide Tournaments. And were also NCAA Final Four Finalists. True they had help from Dwyane and others. Sheek was an AAU Finalist in the Peach Jam. We need players who are instinctive and  think steps ahead. Veer directly toward the Basketball and not away from it. We need players who know what to do ahead of time and know basketball. Sheek is one of those players. A few of the players we had last year did not or could not get it. Again Bottom Feeders have Bottom Feeder players. If Marquette is a Bottom Feeder again we will see. We would like to Win but will and have supported Marquette for over 60 years unconditionally..

[Galway Eagle]

Players like Travis and Steve were National Finalists in AAU Nation Wide Tournaments. And were also NCAA Final Four Finalists. True they had help from Dwyane and others.

The guys went to two NITs together without Wade... I know the first 1/2-2/3 of 2005 was good till the Deiner injury but maybe not the best examples you could've pulled out of the history books

[MU82]

Have been taught Bottom Feeders have Bottom Feeder players. Last year we had the 2nd Most losses in the well over 100 year history of Marquette Basketball and were Bottom Feeders. Players like Travis and Steve were National Finalists in AAU Nation Wide Tournaments. And were also NCAA Final Four Finalists. True they had help from Dwyane and others. Sheek was an AAU Finalist in the Peach Jam. We need players who are instinctive and  think steps ahead. Veer directly toward the Basketball and not away from it. We need players who know what to do ahead of time and know basketball. Sheek is one of those players. A few of the players we had last year did not or could not get it. Again Bottom Feeders have Bottom Feeder players. If Marquette is a Bottom Feeder again we will see. We would like to Win but will and have supported Marquette for over 60 years unconditionally..

Please say "Bottom Feeder" again. Because if you keep repeating it, it will make it true. That's how it works in politics, anyway.

[MarquetteMike1977]

The guys went to two NITs together without Wade... I know the first 1/2-2/3 of 2005 was good till the Deiner injury but maybe not the best examples you could've pulled out of the history books

Agree. True they were not Bottom Feeders but could have used better examples. Al McGuire had  Cream Of The Crop Recruits and most of Marquette's time in the Big East we have had Solid recruits. Not Bottom Feeders. There you go MU 82 lol

[Wade-A-Minute]

Nice...a new way to bash the team....bottom feeders. Does this mean we've moved on from Hamilton?

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Nice...a new way to bash the team....bottom feeders. Does this mean we've moved on from Hamilton?

Bottom feeders is so uncivilized.  I prefer the term carp diem.