NOLAN Minessale Coming to MU

[muwarrior69]

It's not a bad comp

Ben average 8 point and 6 rebounds. Sanada averaged 9 point and 6 rebounds. Nolan averaged 20 points and 5 rebounds and Chase averaged 14 points and 4 rebounds. We went 5 and 6 in our last 11 games with Ben and Chase. What makes you think we'll be better than that next season with Sananda and Nolan playing with NJ, RP and AS?

[Uncle Rico]

Ben average 8 point and 6 rebounds. Sanada averaged 9 point and 6 rebounds. Nolan averaged 20 points and 5 rebounds and Chase averaged 14 points and 4 rebounds. We went 5 and 6 in our last 11 games with Ben and Chase. What makes you think we'll be better than that next season with Sananda and Nolan playing with NJ, RP and AS?

It's always raining

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Ben average 8 point and 6 rebounds. Sanada averaged 9 point and 6 rebounds. Nolan averaged 20 points and 5 rebounds and Chase averaged 14 points and 4 rebounds. We went 5 and 6 in our last 11 games with Ben and Chase. What makes you think we'll be better than that next season with Sananda and Nolan playing with NJ, RP and AS?

It's truly hard for me to believe you're unironically comparing Gold and Fru's counting stats and assuming their impact will be similar.

Dear 8 pound, 6 ounce, newborn infant Jesus...

[WalesOnWells]

Second-biggest Minessale commitment of the past week.


So, is it Minn-uh-sale or Minn-uh-sahlay?

I think it's Minn-uh-sah-lee.

[MuggsyB]

Ben average 8 point and 6 rebounds. Sanada averaged 9 point and 6 rebounds. Nolan averaged 20 points and 5 rebounds and Chase averaged 14 points and 4 rebounds. We went 5 and 6 in our last 11 games with Ben and Chase. What makes you think we'll be better than that next season with Sananda and Nolan playing with NJ, RP and AS?

With all due respect, they're completely different players.  Making a pure statistical comparison, without context or variables, isn't fruitful.  No pun intended. 

[wadesworld]

Not to mention, as brain dead of a comparison it is with taking zero context other than counting stats, even if we're going with that 20 and 5 vs. 14 and 6 is a pretty significant difference.

And your 3 best returners will no longer be a couple of freshman with no college experience and a sophomore.

[PaintTouches]

Doing it vs the Summit League vs the Big East is very different, but when you see Nolan's play distribution vs Chase's, it's easy to envision slotting Nolan into that Chase role as 2nd creator.

Full write up here.

[MuggsyB]

Not to mention, as brain dead of a comparison it is with taking zero context other than counting stats, even if we're going with that 20 and 5 vs. 14 and 6 is a pretty significant difference.

And your 3 best returners will no longer be a couple of freshman with no college experience and a sophomore.

I'd like one more piece, but right now I'd give Shaka a solid A-.  We've addressed two very important needs and can now field a team where all 5 guys will have defined roles offensively.  Fru immediately makes us better defensively as well and Minessale has good size and athleticism. We will get WAY more point blank buckets with rim runs and cutting off the ball.  I also think Minessale will shoot better from distance as a 2nd/3rd option.  The kid can score and has a complete game.  Lastly, getting Nigel help and more space to operate, doesn't bode well for MU's opponents.  Dude has elite blow by speed which leads to high percentage shots, and coaches having nightmares because there is no answer.  I expect our returning guys to all come back highly motivated and vastly improved. 

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Watched this year frustrated that we saw very few cutters. This makes us far more dangerous and unpredictable

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Ben average 8 point and 6 rebounds. Sanada averaged 9 point and 6 rebounds. Nolan averaged 20 points and 5 rebounds and Chase averaged 14 points and 4 rebounds. We went 5 and 6 in our last 11 games with Ben and Chase. What makes you think we'll be better than that next season with Sananda and Nolan playing with NJ, RP and AS?

I believe you're a baseball fan. I assume youre familiar with the WAR stat. Total value of a player in college basketball isn't as easy to quantify, but BPR attempts to do that and does a decent job and accounts for the differences in strength of schedule. Essentially the bigger the number,  the more value a player brings. Here are the BPR numbers for the players you are trying to compare:

Fru 5.68
Minessale 4.97
Ross: 4.43
Gold: 2.45

So per BPR, Fru is a massive upgrade over Gold and Minessale is a slight upgrade over Ross. Now keep in mind that most players improve from year to year so 2027 Fru and Minessale are likely even more valuable.  Now add in that the 7 returners will likely imrpove on average.  Then add in 5 freshmen who will certainly bring more value than Sean and Tre.

That's why I anticipate not just improvement, but massive improvement.

[tower912]

Ben average 8 point and 6 rebounds. Sanada averaged 9 point and 6 rebounds. Nolan averaged 20 points and 5 rebounds and Chase averaged 14 points and 4 rebounds. We went 5 and 6 in our last 11 games with Ben and Chase. What makes you think we'll be better than that next season with Sananda and Nolan playing with NJ, RP and AS?

Friggin' awesome.  To borrow from the Rock, way to know your role.

[PointWarrior]

Well, at least we have a first team all-conference eeyore in the fandom.

Ben average 8 point and 6 rebounds. Sanada averaged 9 point and 6 rebounds. Nolan averaged 20 points and 5 rebounds and Chase averaged 14 points and 4 rebounds. We went 5 and 6 in our last 11 games with Ben and Chase. What makes you think we'll be better than that next season with Sananda and Nolan playing with NJ, RP and AS?

[muwarrior69]

I believe you're a baseball fan. I assume youre familiar with the WAR stat. Total value of a player in college basketball isn't as easy to quantify, but BPR attempts to do that and does a decent job and accounts for the differences in strength of schedule. Essentially the bigger the number,  the more value a player brings. Here are the BPR numbers for the players you are trying to compare:

Fru 5.68
Minessale 4.97
Ross: 4.43
Gold: 2.45

So per BPR, Fru is a massive upgrade over Gold and Minessale is a slight upgrade over Ross. Now keep in mind that most players improve from year to year so 2027 Fru and Minessale are likely even more valuable.  Now add in that the 7 returners will likely imrpove on average.  Then add in 5 freshmen who will certainly bring more value than Sean and Tre.

That's why I anticipate not just improvement, but massive improvement.

Thank You!

[muwarrior69]

Well, at least we have a first team all-conference eeyore in the fandom.

C'mon? Not all-american?

[BCHoopster]

Better next year, one reason, Caedin Hamilton should only be used in mop up situations.

[SaveOD238]

Props to whichever poster was naming him many months ago. Felt bleak for a while but now it's exciting to be an MU hoops fan again.

I went back and checked my text history and I was texting fellow MU fans about Minessale on January 9th.  Not sure when my first post was here about him, but I'm pretty sure I was one of the first.

My source (non-MU fan) was really proud of himself for calling his shot ages ago.

[Norm]

Backup PG would be ideal - maybe Tylen Riley will surprise us

Riley isn't transferring anywhere to be a backup PG.

[#UnleashThePortal]

Ben average 8 point and 6 rebounds. Sanada averaged 9 point and 6 rebounds. Nolan averaged 20 points and 5 rebounds and Chase averaged 14 points and 4 rebounds. We went 5 and 6 in our last 11 games with Ben and Chase. What makes you think we'll be better than that next season with Sananda and Nolan playing with NJ, RP and AS?

Fru is infinity better than gold.

[muwarrior69]

Fru is infinity better than gold.

The over all metrics say so and hope you are right. I guess scoring and rebounding don't tell the whole story.

[Jay Bee]

I went back and checked my text history and I was texting fellow MU fans about Minessale on January 9th.  Not sure when my first post was here about him, but I'm pretty sure I was one of the first.

This is your second post with "Minessale" in it. Your first was on March 25, two weeks after our season had concluded.

This board has talked about him as a potential transfer dating back to at least November.

[MU82]

I went back and checked my text history and I was texting fellow MU fans about Minessale on January 9th.  Not sure when my first post was here about him, but I'm pretty sure I was one of the first.

My source (non-MU fan) was really proud of himself for calling his shot ages ago.

To make sure that neither you nor panda gets hurt patting himself on the back, I suggest you pat each other on the back. And if it ends up leading to more, there's nothing wrong with that.

[Shooter McGavin]

Welcome Nolan!   

Now can we finally stop talking about the Tommies. 

[JoanofArcMascot]

Better next year, one reason, Caedin Hamilton should only be used in mop up situations.

Every minute he is used in mopup is a minute that doesn't go to Clark, who has potential. Hamilton has no potential.

[The Sultan]

Every minute he is used in mopup is a minute that doesn't go to Clark, who has potential. Hamilton has no potential.

I see no discernable difference between the two.

[panda]

I went back and checked my text history and I was texting fellow MU fans about Minessale on January 9th.  Not sure when my first post was here about him, but I'm pretty sure I was one of the first.

My source (non-MU fan) was really proud of himself for calling his shot ages ago.

#fakenews #lies