Xavier BET Game Thread

[The Sultan]

n what universe is a -5 in four minutes of action not a problem?

I am not reading this whole thing, but will just answer this question.

I never claimed it wasn't a problem. I am claiming that the problem has been exaggerated by many posters who, you know, can just look up the data.

For instance...

We lost this game with the 9 and 8 point runs by Xavier when Hamilton was in the game....

And...

Xavier had a 9 - 0 run this half and an 8 - 0 run in the first half when Hamilton was in the game.....

This didn't happen. We can have discussions about a player without resorting to exaggerations.

[Zog from Margo]

As Ben Steele said, Hamilton and Norman are not BE-level players even on a rotational basis. As a result, the only depth MU had was Phillips and Owens. Phillips played like a freshman all season and made a ton of mistakes. Owens was spotty but played a little better down the stretch. Owens still did not provide reliable bench play and still has a lot to prove. Clark remains a project who is pretty clueless on the floor. As a result, MU had only 5 guys who could play and it took the freshmen and Parham a number of games to start playing like BE players. The fault lies with Shaka in grossly overestimating the team's talent. Norman, Hamilton, and Jones, at a minimum, need to join Lowery.

[WhiteTrash]

So Scoop is reduced to arguing the degree of ineptness of Hamilton? Uhhg!

CH is not worthy of this level of attention. He was reduced to a bit part on a poor team. Regardless if he stays or goes, Shaka has way more important issue to deal with. Get the top 12 players set then worry about the last 3 spots.

[willie warrior]

So Scoop is reduced to arguing the degree of ineptness of Hamilton? Uhhg!

CH is not worthy of this level of attention. He was reduced to a bit part on a poor team. Regardless if he stays or goes, Shaka has way more important issue to deal with. Get the top 12 players set then worry about the last 3 spots.

Agreed. Hamilton has shown some improvement bit has a low bar. But the amount of criticism he receives is unfair considering all the other issues MU faces. Biggest one is Shakas recruiting strategy/failures.

[MU82]

Not sure if it was addressed while the game was still going on because I don't hang out in game threads, but ...

It was absolutely idiotic for Tre Carroll to foul with less than 2 seconds left and with us having to make a 90-foot shot to tie. It's hard to believe L'il Rickie wanted that foul; if so, shame on him. The foul actually gave us a chance to tie the game if we had been a little luckier with the way Parham's intentional miss bounced.

I hope no Marquette player ever does anything so stoopid.

[Small Orange Soda]

So Scoop is reduced to arguing the degree of ineptness of Hamilton? Uhhg!

CH is not worthy of this level of attention. He was reduced to a bit part on a poor team. Regardless if he stays or goes, Shaka has way more important issue to deal with. Get the top 12 players set then worry about the last 3 spots.

I think when your starting center gets reduced to a bit part then that's a real misevaluation, which is a problem. Nobody who dismisses the complaints about him ever defends his basketball skills, they just deflect. Why defend a guy who is a consistent net negative when everyone except the coach appears to realize that? In a close game, five minutes of Caedin is five too many.

[WhiteTrash]

I think when your starting center gets reduced to a bit part then that's a real misevaluation, which is a problem. Nobody who dismisses the complaints about him ever defends his basketball skills, they just deflect. Why defend a guy who is a consistent net negative when everyone except the coach appears to realize that? In a close game, five minutes of Caedin is five too many.

While I agree Hamilton would be better elsewhere than MU, his presence or absence doesn't move the needle on MU next year nearly as much as other moves that need to be made.