Xavier BET Game Thread

[wisblue]

At least we can wish Ben the best of luck with the ankle surgery he will be undergoing after playing the last couple months of the season on it.

[GoldenEagles03]

I mean.... just unnatural carnal knowledge Nigel james?

He had a strong shooting year overall, but he's not really an outside shooter. He's a scorer that operates best at the rim.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

I'm talking about in general.

Everyone has bad nights. But Adrien is a good shooter. He's the only one on the season when he shot it, it felt like it had a good shot to go in.

Phillips' shot looks smooth but after 4 years at MU I can't believe Ben's shot never improved that always puzzled me

[GoldenEagles03]

once again, Nigel is a better shooter lol.

Nigel is not a better shooter than Adrien lol. He's a better player and scorer, but not shooter.

[#UnleashThePortal]

Love BG. He's a natural 4 who was forced to play out of position due to roster decisions by the staff. Not his fault.

Well put an asterisk next to his plaque for you.

Ben Gold was a bad player that continously got outmatched physically. Take off the goggles.

[wisblue]

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Ya....we need to fix that. 

It's not so much being puzzled by it as it is that they just didn't have the kind of personnel you  need to attack it.

[#UnleashThePortal]

Nigel is not a better shooter than Adrien lol. He's a better player and scorer, but not shooter.

Nigel shot exactly two percentage points worse then Stevens.

Nigel was the primary ball handler and teams guarded him hard every time.

Stevens took a bunch of open uncontested threes.

Maybe we should have benched Nigel so Sean didn't leave though.

[MurphysTillClose]

Well put an asterisk next to his plaque for you.

Ben Gold was a bad player that continously got outmatched physically. Take off the goggles.

I mean if you want to act like a cuck, that's within your right to do so.

But acting like BG was "bad" is just low IQ. I can't help you with that. Godspeed lil bro.

[#UnleashThePortal]

I mean if you want to act like a cuck, that's within your right to do so.

But acting like BG was "bad" is just low IQ. I can't help you with that. Godspeed lil bro.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/ben-gold-1.html

Once again. Lol

Ben Gold was the 6th best player on a 12-20 team.

[GoldenEagles03]

Nigel shot exactly two percentage points worse then Stevens.

Nigel was the primary ball handler and teams guarded him hard every time.

Stevens took a bunch of open uncontested threes.

Maybe we should have benched Nigel so Sean didn't leave though.

Most of all of our 3s are open. That's how our offense operates. We are great at generating open looks. Making them was the issue. Again, Nigel had a good shooting year, but he's not primarily a shooter, Adrien very clearly is. Not sure what Sean has to do with any of it 🤣🤣🤣

[Jay Bee]

So, like, what's Hurley's take?

[MurphysTillClose]

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/ben-gold-1.html

Once again. Lol

Ben Gold was the 6th best player on a 12-20 team.

He's playing out of his best utilized position. Can you read?

[#UnleashThePortal]

He's playing out of his best utilized position. Can you read?

Ben got beat consistently off the high pick and roll by 5's. Why do you think he would have covered a faster 4 better? Dude was slowwwwwwww.

[#UnleashThePortal]

Most of all of our 3s are open. That's how our offense operates. We are great at generating open looks. Making them was the issue. Again, Nigel had a good shooting year, but he's not primarily a shooter, Adrien very clearly is. Not sure what Sean has to do with any of it 🤣🤣🤣

You fail to see how a 37.5% three point shooter who was contested on a majority of his attempts is a better shooter then someone who shot mostly open uncontested 3s at a 39.4% clip?

K.

[Elonsmusk]

Not getting 100% effort from Tre.

Agreed with this..least effort I've seen from him.  He gave up 4 or 6 points blown by off dribble, back doored, and had a turnover in his 4 minutes.  Really hurt the team.  Feel bad for the kid it has to hurt to be a highly regarded recruit, work hard, and realize the level is just a notch above.

[#UnleashThePortal]

Agreed with this..least effort I've seen from him.  He gave up 4 or 6 points blown by off dribble, back doored, and had a turnover in his 4 minutes.  Really hurt the team.  Feel bad for the kid it has to hurt to be a highly regarded recruit, work hard, and realize the level is just a notch above.
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No one's talking about the 4 minutes Hamilton and tre played probably cost Marquette the game.

[MurphysTillClose]

Ben got beat consistently off the high pick and roll by 5's. Why do you think he would have covered a faster 4 better? Dude was slowwwwwwww.

I think his performance on the offensive side of the floor would've been better served not having to guard bigs like Zuby and Tarris Reed all game (examples), which he was consistently overmatched. He's not a 5, never was a 5, and never will be a 5.

And most high ball screens are set by the primary big on offense, so that's a terrible example to prove your point.

[GoldenEagles03]

You fail to see how a 37.5% three point shooter who was contested on a majority of his attempts is a better shooter then someone who shot mostly open uncontested 3s at a 39.4% clip?

K.

It's not like he was chucking heavily contested garbage shots. Nigel was taking good open 3s in the flow of the offense.

Adrien was at 42% from 3 in Big East play. That's very good especially for a guy taking 5 of them a game.

Both great players, but they have different skill sets.

[#UnleashThePortal]

It's not like he was chucking heavily contested garbage shots. Nigel was taking good open 3s in the flow of the offense.

Adrien was at 42% from 3 in Big East play. That's very good especially for a guy taking 5 of them a game.

Both great players, but they have different skill sets.

Mate, they are two percentage points away from each other.

Stevens went 1-10 today. Calm down rofl.

[#UnleashThePortal]

I think his performance on the offensive side of the floor would've been better served not having to guard bigs like Zuby and Tarris Reed all game (examples), which he was consistently overmatched. He's not a 5, never was a 5, and never will be a 5.

And most high ball screens are set by the primary big on offense, so that's a terrible example to prove your point.

So youre saying a "stretch 4" being covered by a slower 5 at the 3 point line is why he sucked? So being guarded by a much more physical and speedy 4 would have worked out?

Okkkkkk. Ben sucked.

And yes, most picks are set by three primary bigs... who constantly toasted Ben when he hedged the screen.

[MurphysTillClose]

So youre saying a "stretch 4" being covered by a slower 5 at the 3 point line is why he sucked? So being guarded by a much more physical and speedy 4 would have worked out?

Okkkkkk. Ben sucked.

You don't know how to read. I love scoop.

[#UnleashThePortal]

You don't know how to read. I love scoop.

That makes sense. So Ben wasn't being burnt by other teams 5's from the 3 point line? Answer the question lol.

[MurphysTillClose]

That makes sense. So Ben wasn't being burnt by other teams 5's from the 3 point line? Answer the question lol.

He wasn't getting "burnt" by other team's 5 at the 3P line lol.

[#UnleashThePortal]

He wasn't getting "burnt" by other team's 5 at the 3P line lol.

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... yes, yes he was. Very very consistently.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Did Phillips see the Floor in the 2nd half???

Yes. Hit a three and miss another three.