War with Iran

[TallTitan34]

Not sure how long it will last, but we are definitely going to be less beholden to Israel. They have somehow managed to become less popular on both sides of the aisle since 10/7/23.

True.

[Pakuni]

The voted to cause pain to liberals, the LBGTQ community, women, trans people, educated people, elites, city folk, all POC, anyone not Murican, foreigners, and non-"Christians".

They're stunned that the incompetent pedophile conman insurrectionist rapist is now causing *them* pain.

They voted for an incompetent, narcissistic and cruel bully with authoritarian leanings mistakenly thinking that those traits would only harm the "other."
The fact they couldn't foresee that it would harm everyone is just the law of unintended consequences, but it's still what they voted for.

[MU82]

From Axios:

Before the war and as it got underway, Trump laid out highly ambitious parameters for any successful resolution with Iran.

That included "total surrender" and the full dismantlement of Iran's nuclear program. No enrichment, no ballistic missiles, no funding for proxies. Trump even wanted a say in picking the supreme leader.

The memorandum of understanding (MOU) — which Trump signed yesterday and senior administration officials finally unveiled on a call with reporters — is a much more modest agreement.

Breaking it down: Iran gets sanctions relief to sell oil, the strait reopens, the blockade lifts.

The parties also give themselves 60 days to negotiate a nuclear deal. Iran could see all sanctions lifted and receive billions in frozen funds and investments, if it agrees to limit its nuclear program and "dispose of" its stockpile.

Trump and his team acknowledge a final deal may never happen. But he claimed yesterday that "if it doesn't get done in 60 days, we go back to bombing." (He later said the deadline could shift.)

Uncharacteristically, Trump downplayed the deal somewhat, noting that it was just a memorandum. He further enraged hawks by expressing sympathy for Iran's desire to possess missiles and pursue nuclear energy.

There's plenty in the deal for critics to sink their teeth into.

It only calls on Iran to open the strait without restrictions for 60 days, leaving open the possibility of tolls after that. A senior U.S. official told reporters that wouldn't happen, because Gulf countries wouldn't sign up to any deal that allowed it.

The MOU calls for a plan to establish a $300 billion fund to rebuild Iran. Trump denied that the U.S. would contribute money to such a fund.

The text makes clear that Iran will receive sanctions waivers to sell oil freely as long as negotiations are ongoing.

The MOU says nothing about Iran's ballistic missiles or support for terrorist organizations and militias in the region, despite Trump's insistence — dating back to his first term — that any deal with Iran would have to cover those issues.

[jficke13]

well we were promised the war would end via unconditional surrender...

[forgetful]

Is there a single thing the US gets out of the deal that we didn't have before?

Yes! We got an emboldened and stronger Iran threat, and a new global risk of higher prices due to possible fees on transit through the Strait of Hormuz.

Winning!

[Jay Bee]

15 American lives lost? I thought it was "only" 13. Just want to get the facts right.

But how many were saved?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Trump, being the stupidest and most corrupt motherunnatural carnal knowledgeer in history, thought it was going to be Venezuela 2.0--smash & grab and steal their oil for himself.

Instead, it was Little Big Horn 2.0, if after the battle we had granted the Sioux sovereign rights to Montana, the ability to charge a toll to anyone traveling through the state, and $30M in reparations in exchange for a pinky swear that they wouldn't ever try to develop rifles.

[Jockey]

From Axios:

Before the war and as it got underway, Trump laid out highly ambitious parameters for any successful resolution with Iran.

That included "total surrender" and the full dismantlement of Iran's nuclear program. No enrichment, no ballistic missiles, no funding for proxies. Trump even wanted a say in picking the supreme leader.

The memorandum of understanding (MOU) — which Trump signed yesterday and senior administration officials finally unveiled on a call with reporters — is a much more modest agreement.

Breaking it down: Iran gets sanctions relief to sell oil, the strait reopens, the blockade lifts.

The parties also give themselves 60 days to negotiate a nuclear deal. Iran could see all sanctions lifted and receive billions in frozen funds and investments, if it agrees to limit its nuclear program and "dispose of" its stockpile.

Trump and his team acknowledge a final deal may never happen. But he claimed yesterday that "if it doesn't get done in 60 days, we go back to bombing." (He later said the deadline could shift.)

Uncharacteristically, Trump downplayed the deal somewhat, noting that it was just a memorandum. He further enraged hawks by expressing sympathy for Iran's desire to possess missiles and pursue nuclear energy.

There's plenty in the deal for critics to sink their teeth into.

It only calls on Iran to open the strait without restrictions for 60 days, leaving open the possibility of tolls after that. A senior U.S. official told reporters that wouldn't happen, because Gulf countries wouldn't sign up to any deal that allowed it.

The MOU calls for a plan to establish a $300 billion fund to rebuild Iran. Trump denied that the U.S. would contribute money to such a fund.

The text makes clear that Iran will receive sanctions waivers to sell oil freely as long as negotiations are ongoing.

The MOU says nothing about Iran's ballistic missiles or support for terrorist organizations and militias in the region, despite Trump's insistence — dating back to his first term — that any deal with Iran would have to cover those issues.

Did Axios  call for trump to get the Nobel peace prize, too?

[Hards Alumni]

well we were promised the war would end via unconditional surrender...

[Hards Alumni]

But how many were saved?

none

[MU82]

But how many were saved?

Zero.

And then there's this ...

An initial agreement by the United States and Iran to halt their war grants Iran major economic benefits while delaying the toughest concessions that Iran would eventually have to make on its nuclear program.

The agreement lifts the U.S.-imposed naval blockade of Iranian ports and, most crucially, grants Iran waivers to export its oil  before the negotiation of a final agreement on its nuclear program. That will give Iran a critical economic lifeline. In recent years, its economy has been in a tailspin, with a collapsing currency and sky-high inflation.

The one major step to be taken by Iran is reopening the Strait of Hormuz to free passage for the next 60 days, though the agreement seems to leave open the possibility of charging fees after that period.

"On balance, the memorandum appears to favor Iran," said Nicole Grajewski, who teaches at the Center for International Studies at Sciences Po in France and studies Iran's foreign policy. "Tehran secures movement toward sanctions relief, a pathway for the restoration of oil exports, access to economic benefits and a reduction in military pressure while making relatively limited new nuclear commitments."

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/18/world/middleeast/iran-deal-oil-strait-of-hormuz-nuclear.html?

Not sure what they are, but I guess you have your reasons for defending an abysmal deal that favors a decades-long enemy with a radical, America-hating regime. So celebrate!

[Uncle Rico]

none

Wrong.  They were minutes away from developing nuclear jackets that could wipe out cities.  Trillions of people were saved.

Many large men walked up to the president to thank him while they openly wept, saying, "sir, here is a $100 bill, please use this to build a ballroom capable of withstanding nuclear jackets"

[Billy Hoyle]

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2067626298323664913

[MU82]

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2067626298323664913

Please don't wait! Go now!!!

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Wrong.  They were minutes away from developing nuclear jackets that could wipe out cities.  Trillions of people were saved.

Many large men walked up to the president to thank him while they openly wept, saying, "sir, here is a $100 bill, please use this to build a ballroom capable of withstanding nuclear jackets"

Vests. Nuclear vests.

More stylish and sporty than full jackets, and just the thing for hot, arid climates.

[jesmu84]

https://x.com/i/status/2067324585725566998

https://x.com/i/status/2067283274934989239

https://x.com/i/status/2067289874030276702

[Billy Hoyle]

Please don't wait! Go now!!!

He won't get elected there...but he's very popular in Iran now.

[MU82]

He won't get elected there...but he's very popular in Iran now.

All the better! Probably can build some nice golf courses between posts on Iran's social media.

[cheebs09]

All the better! Probably can build some nice golf courses between posts on Iran's social media.

Is that the regime change they've been talking about?

[Uncle Rico]

https://x.com/i/status/2067324585725566998

https://x.com/i/status/2067283274934989239

https://x.com/i/status/2067289874030276702

The Art of the Deal!

A confederacy of dunces

[MU82]

The Art of the Deal!

A confederacy of dunces

The Idiocracy continues unabated.

[TallTitan34]

Good thing they won't have billions and billions.

https://x.com/acyn/status/2067633047395258443?s=46

[TSmith34, Inc.]

https://x.com/i/status/2067324585725566998

https://x.com/i/status/2067283274934989239

https://x.com/i/status/2067289874030276702

Complete, unconditional surrender!

President Trump (March 2): "Our objectives are clear. First, we're destroying Iran's missile capabilities... and their capacity to produce brand new ones — pretty good ones they make.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio (March 2): "The United States is conducting an operation to eliminate the threat of Iran's short-range ballistic missiles

Under Secretary of War for Policy Elbridge Colby (March 3): "I think I can lay out once again the objectives of the military campaign... which are focused on addressing the ability of the Islamic Republic to project military power... And that's primarily the missile forces of the Islamic Republic, which had obviously been growing substantially and posed a very serious threat

Secretary Rubio (March 3): "Our objectives remain, as they've been identified from the beginning and the President laid out clearly yesterday. Iran can never have a nuclear weapon and we will not allow Iran to hide behind the immunity of a massive short-term ballistic missile inventory, or the ability to make them or launch them

Secretary of War Pete Hegseth (March 4): "The mission is laser-focused: obliterate Iran's missiles and drones and facilities that produce them

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Dan Caine (March 4): "The Operation was again launched with clear military objectives designed to dismantle Iran's ability to project power outside of its borders, both today and in the future. First, we are targeting and eliminating Iran's ballistic missile systems to prevent them from threatening the U.S. forces, partners, and interests in the region.

Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt (March 4): "At the beginning of Operation Epic Fury, launched last weekend, President Trump laid out clear objectives to the American people on what the U.S. military seeks to accomplish through these major combat operations. Number one, destroy the regime's deadly ballistic missiles and completely raze their missile industry to the ground.

Secretary Rubio (March 9): "It is important to continue to remind the American people of why it is that the greatest military in the history of the world is engaged in this operation. It is to destroy the ability of this regime to launch missiles both by destroying their missiles and their launchers, destroy the factories that make these missiles, and destroy their navy."

[Uncle Rico]

Complete, unconditional surrender!

President Trump (March 2): "Our objectives are clear. First, we're destroying Iran's missile capabilities... and their capacity to produce brand new ones — pretty good ones they make.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio (March 2): "The United States is conducting an operation to eliminate the threat of Iran's short-range ballistic missiles

Under Secretary of War for Policy Elbridge Colby (March 3): "I think I can lay out once again the objectives of the military campaign... which are focused on addressing the ability of the Islamic Republic to project military power... And that's primarily the missile forces of the Islamic Republic, which had obviously been growing substantially and posed a very serious threat

Secretary Rubio (March 3): "Our objectives remain, as they've been identified from the beginning and the President laid out clearly yesterday. Iran can never have a nuclear weapon and we will not allow Iran to hide behind the immunity of a massive short-term ballistic missile inventory, or the ability to make them or launch them

Secretary of War Pete Hegseth (March 4): "The mission is laser-focused: obliterate Iran's missiles and drones and facilities that produce them

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Dan Caine (March 4): "The Operation was again launched with clear military objectives designed to dismantle Iran's ability to project power outside of its borders, both today and in the future. First, we are targeting and eliminating Iran's ballistic missile systems to prevent them from threatening the U.S. forces, partners, and interests in the region.

Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt (March 4): "At the beginning of Operation Epic Fury, launched last weekend, President Trump laid out clear objectives to the American people on what the U.S. military seeks to accomplish through these major combat operations. Number one, destroy the regime's deadly ballistic missiles and completely raze their missile industry to the ground.

Secretary Rubio (March 9): "It is important to continue to remind the American people of why it is that the greatest military in the history of the world is engaged in this operation. It is to destroy the ability of this regime to launch missiles both by destroying their missiles and their launchers, destroy the factories that make these missiles, and destroy their navy."

Not only the most corrupt administration in American history, the most incompetent.

[Hards Alumni]

Not only the most corrupt administration in American history, the most incompetent.

Consider, for a moment, that some very important people will be made more wealthy by all of this incompetence.