Clearly Shaka is trying to rehabilitate.....

[Pakuni]

LMFAO.   And check your inbox.

Not even one?
And thanks.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Sample size way too small, but Josh's rebounding numbers are ELITE. that's why it would be great to see how they hold up in some extended run - certainly the rest of game isn't any WORSE than Caedins - why he doesn't get all those minutes I can't understand...

Fair.  If Josh could maintain his OR%, DR%, and BLK% over a larger sample size, and improve to shooting 65% at the rim, he could be a good role player.

[tower912]

Look several posts back on this page.

[WhiteTrash]

No, but that's not what you said.
You suggested that what fans say here might "drive away" high-potential players we want to stay, and specifically cited Nigel as an example.
I agree that players should stay away from social media, both the criticism and (as Saban would say) the rat poison. But fans shouldn't avoid legitimate criticism of players or the program out of fear that feelings might get hurt.

Also, if you think Marquette fans are unusually or uniquely toxic, troll-ish a--holes, you should spend time on some other team's message boards. We're kittens compared to many.

This is very true. I will not even try to prove it since the evidence is there in spades for anyone to see.

If any recruit finds the MU fan boards tough, they could never make it at a blue blood, or any top 40 program. You know who as nice fan boards; DePaul. When you suck the passionate, team supporting and ticket buying fans out of the equation, you get very nice people who give a ribbon to players who just play.

[UWW2MU]

No, but that's not what you said.
You suggested that what fans say here might "drive away" high-potential players we want to stay, and specifically cited Nigel as an example.
I agree that players should stay away from social media, both the criticism and (as Saban would say) the rat poison. But fans shouldn't avoid legitimate criticism of players or the program out of fear that feelings might get hurt.

Also, if you think Marquette fans are unusually or uniquely toxic, troll-ish a--holes, you should spend time on some other team's message boards. We're kittens compared to many.

Let's just put it this way... in sports, some fanbases think it's ok to boo their team and players, others do not.  For example, Packers fans vs Eagles fans.  Both have high standards for outcomes, but how those fan bases support their teams are vastly different.  Maybe there's no right or wrong in that... but I know what my preference is.

[Pakuni]

Look several posts back on this page.

Starting to think you don't know what fan police means.
Maybe this will help.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fanpol

[tower912]

Starting to think we see these things from completely different perspectives.  Ah, well.

[WhiteTrash]

Let's just put it this way... in sports, some fanbases think it's ok to boo their team and players, others do not.  For example, Packers fans vs Eagles fans.  Both have high standards for outcomes, but how those fan bases support their teams are vastly different.  Maybe there's no right or wrong in that... but I know what my preference is.

I believe MU fans boards, like Scoop, are a net positive for recruits to read compared to other team boards. I think players like to see an engaged and passionate fan base.  For example, Nova's board can get very ugly but they seem to be a well respected program. Just last season I read a heated post about recruits being crazy to want to play for Tommy Lloyd.

I don't agree with everything here,  but on balance MU fans are pretty darn good.

[UWW2MU]

I believe MU fans boards, like Scoop, are a net positive for recruits to read compared to other team boards. I think players like to see an engaged and passionate fan base.  For example, Nova's board can get very ugly but they seem to be a well respected program. Just last season I read a heated post about recruits being crazy to want to play for Tommy Lloyd.

I don't agree with everything here,  but on balance MU fans are pretty darn good.

Hmm.... maybe I could agree to that to some degree, but have you seen the crap on X and other social media?

*quick edit: I didn't say "crap"

[The Sultan]

Shaka, players, and others associated with the program have literally stated that the toxicity, trolling, and general a-holeness (my term) on social media has absolutely had a negative affect on the players.  Is that hard to believe?

Unfortunately, that comes with the territory these days. If they want to go to a place where that stuff isn't going to occur, there are plenty of places that have 600 fans in the stands and no NIL money to support the program.

But hey, at least they won't get their feelings hurt.

[Shooter McGavin]

Shaka, players, and others associated with the program have literally stated that the toxicity, trolling, and general a-holeness (my term) on social media has absolutely had a negative affect on the players.  Is that hard to believe?

Hopefully the people who showed up for NMD and other home games and cheered them on will remind them that most fans are not A holes.  The support this team has had at home has been incredible given the losing.  Hopefully that is what they pay attention to more than social media posts.

Sultan, you beat me to it.

[The Sultan]

Let's just put it this way... in sports, some fanbases think it's ok to boo their team and players, others do not.  For example, Packers fans vs Eagles fans.  Both have high standards for outcomes, but how those fan bases support their teams are vastly different.  Maybe there's no right or wrong in that... but I know what my preference is.

LOL, you don't think Packer fans boo their team???

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Difference of opinion, but I don't see the need to fill every single roster spot every single year.

Conversely, I can see why Shaka likes to do it from a relationship and program building perspective.

I'm not saying you have to fill every spot.  You can still carry a Clark, a redshirt or two, and leave one scholarship open to maintain flexibility. 

That still gives you an active roster of 10-11 guys, which is more than enough.

[UWW2MU]

LOL, you don't think Packer fans boo their team???

What, are you the Sultan of semantics or something??

Seriously though, you have to recognize there's a difference in those fanbases.  Let's not get caught up in "gotcha!" details here, we both know it's not the same.

[The Sultan]

What, are you the Sultan of semantics or something??

Seriously though, you have to recognize there's a difference in those fanbases.  Let's not get caught up in "gotcha!" details here, we both know it's not the same.

Ah. You make an inaccurate statement and are now blaming it on "semantics."     

Anyway, Marquette's fanbase is fine. Way better than many of the other's around college basketball. As I said, if they want to play at a place that's completely free of online "toxicity," I'm sure a place like Eastern Illinois would take them in.

Otherwise this is life as a professional athlete at a high D1 school.

[Scoop Snoop]

Ah. You make an inaccurate statement and are now blaming it on "semantics."     

Anyway, Marquette's fanbase is fine. Way better than many of the other's around college basketball. As I said, if they want to play at a place that's completely free of online "toxicity," I'm sure a place like Eastern Illinois would take them in.

Otherwise this is life as a professional athlete at a high D1 school.

It's just as well that I was not good enough to be on a bball team. My feelings would have been very hurt hearing the same chant from the crowd over and over and over again-Aiiirr ball, aiiirr  ball, aiiirr  ball.

[burger]

You design a zone defense around Clark and don't let him leave the restricted area....

There are several zones that could be employed....

On offense he has one play....Pick and dunk roll if it is there....

Creighton when they have a big center run this play 30 times a game.....As a first option....

[The Sultan]

You design a zone defense around Clark and don't let him leave the restricted area....

There are several zones that could be employed....

On offense he has one play....Pick and dunk roll if it is there....

Creighton when they have a big center run this play 30 times a game.....As a first option....

Oy...