NMD

[wadesworld]

I think there will be support staff separate from the coaching team who will handle the majority of recruiting and recruitment related activities.

So kids are just going to go to schools without building relationships with the head coach. Completely transactional in a decade.

[panda]

So kids are just going to go to schools without building relationships with the head coach. Completely transactional in a decade.

Coaching staff will be involved and work collaboratively but the "front office" will take the lead. No different than pro sports.

[The Sultan]

So kids are just going to go to schools without building relationships with the head coach. Completely transactional in a decade.

It depends on what panda means by "the majority of recruitment related activities," but I think head coaches will be used in the highest profiles situations possible. Closers if you will. Talent identification and initial outreach will be made largely by staff dedicated to personnel.

I guess it could be argued that this already happens. Assistants manage a lot of that work now. But I think there will a more clear difference between "personnel" and "coaching" in the future.

[panda]

It depends on what panda means by "the majority of recruitment related activities," but I think head coaches will be used in the highest profiles situations possible. Closers if you will. Talent identification and initial outreach will be made largely by staff dedicated to personnel.

Agree, thanks

[wadesworld]

It depends on what panda means by "the majority of recruitment related activities," but I think head coaches will be used in the highest profiles situations possible. Closers if you will. Talent identification and initial outreach will be made largely by staff dedicated to personnel.

Sure. But his comment about "laughing about the coach leaving his team in the season to visit a recruit" would shock me. But he's a very prescient poster so who am I to question what he says?

[Billy Hoyle]

Coaching staff will be involved and work collaboratively but the "front office" will take the lead. No different than pro sports.

That's exactly how it works. The GM is doing the legwork on recruiting, identifying prospects (including potential transfers), building relationships with them and their network, and starting the negotiating process (damn, it sucks to type that). It's their job to get the kid on the front porch, and then it's the coaches' job to get the kid inside the house. Perhaps a GM could have told Shaka that if Caedin wasn't considered Big West material, then perhaps he wasn't Big East material.

[Scoop Snoop]

That's exactly how it works. The GM is doing the legwork on recruiting, identifying prospects (including potential transfers), building relationships with them and their network, and starting the negotiating process (damn, it sucks to type that). It's their job to get the kid on the front porch, and then it's the coaches' job to get the kid inside the house. Perhaps a GM could have told Shaka that if Caedin wasn't considered Big West material, then perhaps he wasn't Big East material.

Love the analogy!

[Newsdreams]

Dude, even the free beer isn't worth the trip to the deer district, even if it isn't the MECCA bar, hope you thanked Steve.

Of course Steve was properly thanked. Note: Free food, cash bar.

[brewcity77]

Coaches will be closers and make final decisions, but recruiting has already transformed away from the old HS/AAU frequent visit model. Even marquee events like Peach Jam aren't attended like they once were. That will only accelerate in the coming years.

[#UnleashJosh]

Uh oh.  The guy who claims credit for inspiring the powers that be to fire Wojo is out for more heads!  Look out Broeker!  Can somebody please Tweet at him to let him know his ass is in the jackpot and he needs to hire a GM immediately, or brewcity will be writing a scathing blog that the BOD will see and act upon?

Good golly man, we need to make you the Marquette President, AD, and head of Marketing.  These people are so freaking clueless, they tripped forward into these roles they have no clue how to carry out.  We wouldn't have the embarrassment of no hot dogs at a free open practice, our schedule wouldn't involve neutral site games in Chicago, we'd have a GM who could put together competent rosters.  This is all so unacceptable and people are not doing their job capably, and action is needed!

There are a ton of posters, past, present, and banned, who have had an overinflated sense of self worth, but my god nobody comes close to you.

We know this season sucks.  There's nothing that can be done now to address that.  We know Butler sucks and this win isn't some sign of incredible things going on with the program.  But can we just spend NMD enjoying a rare win on the season, rather than telling everyone how incompetent everyone in Marquette's athletic department is?  I can't imagine living my life telling everyone how incompetent everyone else is.

When did i miss that were hating brewcity at the same level as Jay bee?

I always thought his articles were informative and well thought out. Even if I don't agree with everything 

[79Warrior]

That's exactly how it works. The GM is doing the legwork on recruiting, identifying prospects (including potential transfers), building relationships with them and their network, and starting the negotiating process (damn, it sucks to type that). It's their job to get the kid on the front porch, and then it's the coaches' job to get the kid inside the house. Perhaps a GM could have told Shaka that if Caedin wasn't considered Big West material, then perhaps he wasn't Big East material.

So what do assistant coaches do?? You think a GM is going to tell Danny Hurley or Rick Pitino what to do? No way.

[panda]

So what do assistant coaches do?? You think a GM is going to tell Danny Hurley or Rick Pitino what to do? No way.

Assistant coaches will coach.

Why is the idea of a GM foreign to you?

[79Warrior]

Assistant coaches will coach.

Why is the idea of a GM foreign to you?
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Like I asked, answer the question? I will for you. No way. Hurley and Rick would walk out the door.

[panda]

Assistant coaches will coach.

Why is the idea of a GM foreign to you?
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Like I asked, answer the question? I will for you. No way. Hurley and Rick would walk out the door.

St. John's works (worked) with a general manager lol

[Billy Hoyle]

So what do assistant coaches do?? You think a GM is going to tell Danny Hurley or Rick Pitino what to do? No way.

What to the assistants do? They coach first. If you reread my post you'll notice that I said after the GM gets guys on the front porch it's up to the COACHES to get the kid in the door. The GM does the leg work to ID guys and get them interested in MU, then turns things over to the coaches to close the deal. Now that players have agents it's the GM who is dealing with them to determine the level of interest and the demands of their clients to see if both parties are interested in taking the next step.

The GM is also scouting other programs to identify likely portal candidates, especially from the mid and low major levels. Do you really think Nevada Smith is taking time out of coaching and scouting prep to watch a WCC or Southland game to see which players will likely enter the portal and could fit a need at MU?

[Pakuni]

So what do assistant coaches do?? You think a GM is going to tell Danny Hurley or Rick Pitino what to do? No way.

I think you're confusing the role of the professional sports GM with that of a college GM. The latter is not the boss. That's still the head coach. The college GM is basically an administrator who manages NIL and other financial resources, oversees support staff and is the initial recruiter of talent. He's basically taking all those administrative burdens off the coach's hands so the coach can focus on coaching.

By the way, both Pitino and Hurley have GMs.

[Billy Hoyle]

I think you're confusing the role of the professional sports GM with that of a college GM. The latter is not the boss. That's still the head coach. The college GM is basically an administrator who manages NIL and other financial resources, oversees support staff and is the initial recruiter of talent. He's basically taking all those administrative burdens off the coach's hands so the coach can focus on coaching.

By the way, both Pitino and Hurley have GMs.

One new responsibility for GMs is working with compliance to determine the eligibility status of former pros and international kids. It wasn't Scott Drew or any of the coaches who were working on whether James Nnaji was eligible and gathering the information about him, it was the GM.

[muwarrior69]

Coaches will be closers and make final decisions, but recruiting has already transformed away from the old HS/AAU frequent visit model. Even marquee events like Peach Jam aren't attended like they once were. That will only accelerate in the coming years.

So who could Marquette hire as a GM? Are there guys out there that were poor coaches but stellar recruiters?

[Pakuni]

So who could Marquette hire as a GM? Are there guys out there that were poor coaches but stellar recruiters?

Wojo.

[The Sultan]

Wojo.

🤔🤔🤔

[muwarrior69]

Wojo.

The thought actually did cross my mind. Redemption is not a bad thing. Regardless it just an idle thought.

[JakeBarnes]

I think there will be support staff separate from the coaching team who will handle the majority of recruiting and recruitment related activities.

The SEC was good at having these "welcoming committees" iirc

[rocky_warrior]

Wojo.

Man that would really rankle Ners.

[1SE]

Wojo and Crean as a dynamic recruiting duo almost writes itself for Netflix...

[TallTitan34]

Wojo and Crean as a dynamic recruiting duo almost writes itself for Netflix...

Love this.