Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team

[Billy Hoyle]

Love how the "altercation" has gone from twitter rumor to established fact in about 45 minutes, despite no actual confirmation that it occurred. It will soon be a part of Scoop lore, like the Hauser brothers slipping notes under Wojo's office door and Buzz's distaste for flushing.

I don't know if that account is legit or sarcasm. He seems to have a vendetta against Shaka.

[panda]

You realize there's no proof that actually happened, right?

lol - what do you want? footage from inside the AL during practice? The program mentioning the exact details in the press release? Smh

[wadesworld]

I don't know if that account is legit or sarcasm. He seems to have a vendetta against Shaka.

Wonder what his Scoop username is.

[MuggsyB]

Well, I guess that's that.  More opportunities for Adrien and Tre.  I honestly thought Zaide would be a major impact player for us.  Pretty disappointing. 

[ATL MU Warrior]

Well, I guess that's that.  More opportunities for Adrien and Tre.  I honestly thought Zaide would be a major impact player for us.  Pretty disappointing. 

He needed to be for this team to be any good.  But here we are.

[MuggsyB]

He needed to be for this team to be any good.  But here we are.

True.  It's extremely depressing.

[CountryRoads]

I was high on Zaide.  Surprised it went south, and he didn't take a step.  That aside, what did Tyler Kolek's recruitment have to do with anything related to Zaide leaving MU? 

Just noting a few examples of where Shaka didn't have the best judgment on who would be a good fit in the program. Longer list of players recruited who are/were nowhere near the level needed to compete - Tre included as you mentioned. The assistants are disposable to me and definitely wasn't suggesting Hatt is some star on the recruiting trail. Speaking of some of the players in this class (Tre, Zaide, Amadou, Hamilton), I'm wondering where this class will end up ranking in MU history.

[Johnny B]

You realize there's no proof that actually happened, right?

Yeah for the moment. Just posing the question

[GoldenEagles03]

I'm guessing this is far from the low point yet, but at least we've started the process of getting this over with.

[MuggsyB]

Just noting a few examples of where Shaka didn't have the best judgment on who would be a good fit in the program. Longer list of players recruited who are/were nowhere near the level needed to compete - Tre included as you mentioned. The assistants are disposable to me and definitely wasn't suggesting Hatt is some star on the recruiting trail. Speaking of some of the players in this class (Tre, Zaide, Amadou, Hamilton), I'm wondering where this class will end up ranking in MU history.

I'm gonna say not very high. 

[GB Warrior]

Thank goodness we have good talent waiting in the wings

[Vander Blue Man Group]

lol - what do you want? footage from inside the AL during practice? The program mentioning the exact details in the press release? Smh

Wow, you're really this stupid. Amazing.

I guess an unsubstantiated rumor is great for low IQ individuals.

[MuggsyB]

I'm guessing this is far from the low point yet, but at least we've started the process of getting this over with.

Great.  I hope you're just referring to the misery of losing a lot of our remaining games? 

[Johnny B]

Just noting a few examples of where Shaka didn't have the best judgment on who would be a good fit in the program. Longer list of players recruited who are/were nowhere near the level needed to compete - Tre included as you mentioned. The assistants are disposable to me and definitely wasn't suggesting Hatt is some star on the recruiting trail. Speaking of some of the players in this class (Tre, Zaide, Amadou, Hamilton), I'm wondering where this class will end up ranking in MU history.

Worst 4 man class eva

[nyg]

Well, I guess that's that.  More opportunities for Adrien and Tre.  I honestly thought Zaide would be a major impact player for us.  Pretty disappointing. 

No idea what you are talking about, Tre Norman has had three years for his opportunities to showcase his talent. 

It is now Owen's time to show anything. Let's see how many minutes Shaka plays him.

[Billy Hoyle]

Speaking of some of the players in this class (Tre, Zaide, Amadou, Hamilton), I'm wondering where this class will end up ranking in MU history.

I know it will be ranked ahead of our 1999 incoming class

[GoldenEagles03]

Great.  I hope you're just referring to the misery of losing a lot of our remaining games?

I'm sure we will see more tempers flair. The scores are going to continue to be ugly. More guys will question whether they want to be a part of this mess. It will be embarrassing, it won't be fun, but it is what it is.

This isn't what any of them signed up for.

[YoungMUFan4]

Just noting a few examples of where Shaka didn't have the best judgment on who would be a good fit in the program. Longer list of players recruited who are/were nowhere near the level needed to compete - Tre included as you mentioned. The assistants are disposable to me and definitely wasn't suggesting Hatt is some star on the recruitin Speaking of some of the players in this class (Tre, Zaide, Amadou, Hamilton), I'm wondering where this class will end up ranking in MU history.

That 2003 class of Dameon Mason, Brandon Bell, James Matthews and Carlton Christian might be slightly ahead of this one

[Johnny B]

I'm sure we will see more tempers flair. The scores are going to continue to be ugly. More guys will question whether they want to be a part of this mess. It will be embarrassing, it won't be fun, but it is what it is.

This isn't what any of them signed up for.

Let their whiny ass out the door then. You post this a lot as if the few decent guys on the team are getting more and more upset each day that goes by. What can be done mid season?Every fan player and coach knows the year is a calamity. It's still one year. Lowery is already gone and I think there will be a ton of new faces next year on top of sheek and egbbongbu or whatever his name his. There's 3 guys on the roster I would be upset by them leaving and 2 are freshman. If they're that doom and gloom snowflakes cause one bad year just leave already.

[Viper]

When we won the Big East regular season and Tournament title and got our first NCAA Tournament win in over a decade our season was "a wash at best?" When we made a Sweet 16 our season was "a wash at best" because of seeds and Vegas spreads? The reward for being awesome in the regular season is playing worse teams earlier in the Tournament. Trying to discredit seasons because of a single result is crazy, but MU fans will be MU fans.

I genuinely wonder how Marquette fans get this attitude that we are above Sweet Sixteens and can turn our nose up on those. We have 17 Sweet Sixteen appearances in the history of the program. 11 of those came before 1980. We are not the program that a decent amount of Scoopers think we are.

MU is a top 20 all-time program. Wins. Post season tournament bids. All Americans. People are shocked we suck. Why?...We have a pedigree of winning. I have friends in DC that are blown away at the downfall. You always diminish our excellence. Why?

[MuggsyB]

No idea what you are talking about, Tre Norman has had three years for his opportunities to showcase his talent. 

It is now Owen's time to show anything. Let's see how many minutes Shaka plays him.

Touche.

[GoldenEagles03]

Let their whiny ass out the door then. You post this a lot as if the few decent guys on the team are getting more and more upset each day that goes by. What can be done mid season?Every fan player and coach knows the year is a calamity. It's still one year. Lowery is already gone and I think there will be a ton of new faces next year on top of sheek and egbbongbu or whatever his name his. There's 3 guys on the roster I would be upset by them leaving and 2 are freshman. If they're that doom and gloom snowflakes cause one bad year just leave already.

I don't disagree, I was just pointing out that this likely isn't the low point.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I don't disagree, I was just pointing out that this likely isn't the low point.

Right now one (1) of our players would be in high demand in the portal.

[BLWarrior91]

If it's true that Lowry got in an altercation with an assistant, it will be first time in his MU career he was actually aggressive.  We basically got nothing for two years and he becomes a starter this year.  Shows a few signs of promise then disappears for long stretches. 

Time to admit that he was part of one of the weakest recruiting classes we've ever had.

[GoldenEagles03]

If it's true that Lowry got in an altercation with an assistant, it will be first time in his MU career he was actually aggressive.  We basically got nothing for two years and he becomes a starter this year.  Shows a few signs of promise then disappears for long stretches. 

Time to admit that he was part of one of the weakest recruiting classes we've ever had.

That probably didn't happen.