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K1 Lover

Quote from: nyg on December 17, 2025, 09:55:32 PMPretty disheartening start to season, maybe since______?

It was said during the pre-game show that this is Marquette's worst start since the '96-97 season.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Biggie Clausen on December 17, 2025, 10:01:52 PMI think we've found the guy who writes Shaka's talking points for his press conferences.

Nah.  Feel free to see the post I just made on Shaka's decision-making tonight, genius.

It was an idiotic comment.

panda

Also of note - Gtown couldn't buy a bucket for the majority of the first half. They should've won by a much wider margin.

Boone

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Can't wait for the sarcastic, smug and self-righteous know-nothings to chime in about how we should be focusing on the "growth."

mix it up

Quote from: jesmu84 on December 17, 2025, 09:45:02 PMIf this isn't rock bottom.... What is?

Losing both of the upcoming games vs. DePaul?

Viper

Quote from: panda on December 17, 2025, 09:37:45 PMDown seasons are frustrating but understandable.

Seasons like this are unforgivable.

Hot seat conversation commence
I wanted Shaka's approach to work. HS recruits only. But, this season has gone so sideways I'm almost thinking Shaka is outta here on his own volition. At this point he's come to hate the portal game and dealing with player agents is my best guess. He'll play out the string on this season and walk away. Not betting on it but wouldn't be shocked either.
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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: K1 Lover on December 17, 2025, 10:02:37 PMIt was said during the pre-game show that this is Marquette's worst start since the '96-97 season.

We started 14-4 that season. Maybe they meant 98-99 when we started 8-5
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

MuggsyB

Quote from: Viper on December 17, 2025, 10:10:05 PMI wanted Shaka's approach to work. HS recruits only. But, this season has gone so sideways I'm almost thinking Shaka is outta here on his own volition. At this point he's come to hate the portal game and dealing with player agents is my best guess. He'll play out the string on this season and walk away. Not betting on it but wouldn't be shocked either.

Are you saying he's checked out?

Johnny B

Might not beat a single top 100 team this year. Unthinkable

MuggsyB

Quote from: Johnny B on December 17, 2025, 10:16:15 PMMight not beat a single top 100 team this year. Unthinkable

If we don't turn teams over, we can't score.  Doesn't matter if it's against man or zone.  And our defense?  Not exactly on a string. 

Viper

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 17, 2025, 10:02:41 PMNah.  Feel free to see the post I just made on Shaka's decision-making tonight, genius.

It was an idiotic comment.
that you think last season was good is idiotic, or your expectations are incredibly low. Rode some preseason love, but after mid January the train derailed.
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Warrior of Law

I don't think Shaka has the energy or capacity to rebuild. I could see a walk away after this season. If so, thanks for the memories and let's get someone willing to coach in this era.
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Viper

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 17, 2025, 10:15:37 PMAre you saying he's checked out?
I actually agree with Vander for once. Everything about tonight was just bizarre. Who played. Who didn't. I'm sure Shaka has not checked out, but it's all about as out of sorts as it can get.
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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Viper on December 17, 2025, 10:23:13 PMI actually agree with Vander for once. Everything about tonight was just bizarre. Who played. Who didn't. I'm sure Shaka has not checked out, but it's all about as out of sorts as it can get.

He looked checked out at the Purdue game.
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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Viper on December 17, 2025, 10:19:29 PMthat you think last season was good is idiotic, or your expectations are incredibly low. Rode some preseason love, but after mid January the train derailed.

You are easily one of the dumbest people on this board so not really worried about anything you have to say.

Johnny B

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 17, 2025, 10:25:02 PMHe looked checked out at the Purdue game.
I mean to be fair I  don't really expect him to be jumping around and engaged down 30.

KingKolek

People should lose their jobs over this season. Now it is just a matter of figuring out who.

goldeneagle91114

Quote from: Viper on December 17, 2025, 10:10:05 PMI wanted Shaka's approach to work. HS recruits only. But, this season has gone so sideways I'm almost thinking Shaka is outta here on his own volition. At this point he's come to hate the portal game and dealing with player agents is my best guess. He'll play out the string on this season and walk away. Not betting on it but wouldn't be shocked either.

This is my biggest concern. I think Shaka is a great coach, but he has to embrace the portal. However, I'm not sure he's willing to do so. If not, the state of marquette hoops will be back in limbo.

PointWarrior

Might not win again this season - thinkable. 


Quote from: Johnny B on December 17, 2025, 10:16:15 PMMight not beat a single top 100 team this year. Unthinkable

Spencer Pratt

Quote from: Viper on December 17, 2025, 10:10:05 PMI wanted Shaka's approach to work. HS recruits only. But, this season has gone so sideways I'm almost thinking Shaka is outta here on his own volition. At this point he's come to hate the portal game and dealing with player agents is my best guess. He'll play out the string on this season and walk away. Not betting on it but wouldn't be shocked either.

I mean this theory is the one that best matches the product being put on the floor currently. 

K1 Lover

Something else I realized tonight... You know it's bad when the MUBB social media isn't even posting the final scores for losses anymore. Even disappointing games would at least get the caption of "Final." But now they don't even bother to post. Never seen that happen before until this season.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 17, 2025, 10:26:52 PMYou are easily one of the dumbest people on this board so not really worried about anything you have to say.

We were ranked as high as 5th, 9th at the start of 2025. We finished the season 8-9. We lost at home to X and then it was mediocrity the rest of the way, losing in the first round to a Mountain West 10 seed  Is that not disappointing to you?
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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 17, 2025, 10:40:47 PMWe were ranked as high as 5th, 9th at the start of 2025. We finished the season 8-9. We lost at home to X and then it was mediocrity the rest of the way, losing in the first round to a Mountain West 10 seed  Is that not disappointing to you?

Yes, the end of the season was disappointing. I don't ignore the first two months.

mileskishnish72

I don't really know what defcom is but I think we all have to realize that this season is basically toast. I was encourage tonight to see signs of life from DO and SJ22, but that's
not enough to change the obvious meltdown that we are all seeing unfold before our eyes.
This team will finish below .500 and that's a smackdown from where we have been the last several years.

There have been some interesting comments in the thread about Shaka hanging it up after this year for various reasons. I think he's young enough and competitive enough to want to continue coaching. The Rubicon for Shaka comes this spring - what he does with current (nonproductive) players, how he fills in obvious needs through the portal, will determine his success going forward. If he can't be honest about his recruiting misses and adjust his attitude to filling the holes in his roster via available players in the portal, then thank you very much for your contributions to Marquette, we appreciate it, but we're moving on.


jfp61

Quote from: Jay Bee on December 17, 2025, 09:40:03 PMI get this talk, but super concerning are the playing time and patterns with what we do have. We're bad, but we could be less bad with seemingly obvious changes.

You don't like the Caedin minutes. How about the James and Jones together lets not play any defense ever lineup? I mean to be fair it isn't that different from the baseline.

This team is so bad that I think Michael Phillips needs to actually play real minutes and he should be a senior and looks like it.

Zaide was our 5th best player.. he is quiet quitting.

Adrien Stevens  and Nigel need to start somehow and neither still play adequate defense.

We are kinda at the point to nuke it. The response is dead.


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