I don't have a single positive from this game

[wadesworld]

The fact is that MU could have gotten the same results paying a coach 250K and the team 10K. Every dollar spent over that amount is money down the drain. No corporation would overpay for such awful returns. Most CEOs (ADs/Coaches) would be shown the door by now. We're MU so we'll be forced to grossly overpay for an awful product for another season.

For one down year after being incredibly successful his or her entire tenure? Yeah, I don't think that's how it works.

[panda]

For one down year after being incredibly successful his or her entire tenure? Yeah, I don't think that's how it works.

What do you call the second half of last season?

[wadesworld]

What do you call the second half of last season?

I don't really look at seasons by the half season. We were a 7 seed, 4th in the Big East, and made the BET semifinals. You can discredit Shaka however you would like.

[panda]

I don't really look at seasons by the half season. We were a 7 seed, 4th in the Big East, and made the BET semifinals. You can discredit Shaka however you would like.

Although I agree to extent, I think it's important to look at trends and there was a clear 1st half vs. second half trend shift last year that cannot be avoided in conversation. Especially when the trend continues into a following season.

I'm by no means trying to cherry pick results as you're implying. His teams underachieving has happened for awhile and is impossible to brush under the rug with the guise of, "last season was successful." 

[Ghost of Wojo]

I don't really look at seasons by the half season. We were a 7 seed, 4th in the Big East, and made the BET semifinals. You can discredit Shaka however you would like.

What happened after that?

[Newsdreams]

They don't have spots available on the roster let alone minutes. These players aren't going to willingly turn down the amount of money Marquette is giving them because they are all overpaid. Shaka will have to kick them out and I just don't see it happening.

What exactly is the amount of money they're getting? Give me the amount per player.

[GoldenEagles03]

What exactly is the amount of money they're getting? Give me the amount per player.

Enough to be flexing brand new vehicles around campus and jewelry and high end clothing and whatever else on their social media pages according to fans on Twitter.

[Billy Hoyle]

Enough to be flexing brand new vehicles around campus and jewelry and high end clothing and whatever else on their social media pages according to fans on Twitter.

A MU video last year showed Chase pulling up to the Al in an X3. Maybe his parents bought it for him, I'm not going to judge him for that, but why is he driving from Humphrey to the Al?

[burger]

Purdue covered the spread.....

[Newsdreams]

Enough to be flexing brand new vehicles around campus and jewelry and high end clothing and whatever else on their social media pages according to fans on Twitter.

Those are independent NIL deals not MU money. So I just want a figure on what each player is being payed directly by MU.

[We R Final Four]

A MU video last year showed Chase pulling up to the Al in an X3. Maybe his parents bought it for him, I'm not going to judge him for that, but why is he driving from Humphrey to the Al?

So you are going to judge him for driving from Humphrey to the Al?
Lol

[Billy Hoyle]

So you are going to judge him for driving from Humphrey to the Al?
Lol

Did I say I was judging him? No, But driving five blocks? I don't understand that.  It's not like the MU campus is like Madison, Michigan, MSU, etc.

[Pakuni]

Did I say I was judging him? No, But driving five blocks? I don't understand that.  It's not like the MU campus is like Madison, Michigan, MSU, etc.

Saving his energy for EGBs.

[Billy Hoyle]

Saving his energy for EGBs.

Watching him on Saturday, I guess he walked to the Al on Friday.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Bob Dukiet's last two teams were very bad, worse than this one. KO's second team won only 11 games, but there was a lot of optimism with his first class (Mac, Key, Logtermann and Charles Brakes), plus the addition of Ron Curry.

Dukiet was my first two years at MU.  At least we had Tony Smith and Trevor Powell. 
There definitely was a lot more optimism after KO's arrival.

[Warrior of Law]

Dukiet was my first two years at MU.  At least we had Tony Smith and Trevor Powell. 
There definitely was a lot more optimism after KO's arrival.

Definitely. Even in the lean years, we had some players with potential that could pull an upset. It provided a glimmer of hope and optimism.

[We R Final Four]

Did I say I was judging him? No, But driving five blocks? I don't understand that.  It's not like the MU campus is like Madison, Michigan, MSU, etc.

No...you said you weren't judging him.....and then proceeded to judge him.....twice. Who gives a sheet if he drives to practice. Odd

[Norm]

Dukiet was my first two years at MU.  At least we had Tony Smith and Trevor Powell. 
There definitely was a lot more optimism after KO's arrival.

Mark Anglavar too from the outside.

[Captain Quette]

Was at MU for Dukiet years, never this bad. Tony Smith was a multi year NBA player who covered MJ in the playoffs. No one close to him on this team. As pointed out, Powell and Anglavar are better than everyone on this team, other than perhaps Chase. Also, the lethargy of this team is something I have never seen at MU. Most often, MU was a tough out and always put up a fight. This year.....meh.

[tower912]

Two years of Majerus, two years of Dukiet.  Dukiet was the absolute worst and there was talk about MU going DII.

[Warrior of Law]

Upon reflection, this is the worst MU team that I've ever seen. Even during the leanest of years, there was at least a chance. This roster is just awful with way too many (projected) to return. Worst of all, the malaise that is forming for the program is noticable. Look at the tickets on the secondary market. Ouch.

[Johnny B]

How bad was Dukiet that it was clearly worse than this? yikes... My first year following this team was 09-10 so not alot to compare with

[WarriorHal]

I've read that most athletic scholarships are guaranteed for one year and must be renewed by the coach and athletic department. So, can Shaka basically fire all of the underperforming mistakes at the end of the season & reload with transfers? 

[Zog from Margo]

Mark Anglavar too from the outside.

As I recall, KO questioned whether Anglavar could guard a chair.

[We R Final Four]

I've read that most athletic scholarships are guaranteed for one year and must be renewed by the coach and athletic department. So, can Shaka basically fire all of the underperforming mistakes at the end of the season & reload with transfers? 

Only if he reads scoop.