What would make you show Shaka the door in March?

[panda]

Memories like those are never erased, they are etched in stone.

Your gratitude towards them is what's easily erased, and for that you should be ashamed

lol - this is cooky banana pants type posting.

Buddy we are 0-6 against high majors this year, should've lost to valpo at home and just got our butts kicked by gtown at home.

Our coach looks absolutely clueless on the sidelines and 90% of this roster is slated to return next year. The future is so wildly bleak that I am willing to overlook his past successes. It's even easier to over look them given the fact he completely turned his back on the roster building strategy which gave him that success.

[WhiteTrash]

What a jag.

Expecting his seniors to not completely suck arse

MU gave Shaka a suck arse GM to assemble his team, and expected Saka to not completely suck.

[Galway Eagle]

It's not illogical. The logic is that he built a 4-year run of success effectively on the backs of players: transfers Morsell, Kuath, Prosper, & Kolek, Wojo recruits Lewis, Ighodaro, Jones, & Mitchell, and his own recruits Joplin & Ross.

When he was using the transfers he no longer takes and the players he didn't identify, he did well. But we saw results start to flag last year with his own guys taking a heavier load and see complete ineptitude with his first full RGV roster.

This happening once, it's a disastrous season. But letting it happen again would be courting DePaul territory. And once a coach is on the hot seat, they never really get off.

I'm not ignoring the first four years, I'm following the logic that they were an anomaly this staff is actively choosing to not repeat.

Come on acting like he didn't identify Oso is disingenuous. You're better than that.

[DoctorV]

lol - this is cooky banana pants type posting.

Buddy we are 0-6 against high majors this year, should've lost to valpo at home and just got our butts kicked by gtown at home.

Our coach looks absolutely clueless on the sidelines and 90% of this roster is slated to return next year. The future is so wildly bleak that I am willing to overlook his past successes. It's even easier to over look them given the fact he completely turned his back on the roster building strategy which gave him that success.

Pretty sure I wouldn't want to be your buddy

[panda]

Pretty sure I wouldn't want to be your buddy

That would be a condescending usage of the term for those keeping score at home.

[BM1090]

In the post game with Homer, he didn't take any fault. Blamed Chase & Ben not showing up, said we need 5 guys to play like Owens, effectively blaming everyone else's effort, but the biggest avoidance goal I've seen this season is Shaka avoiding accountability.

You're off your rocker with this one.

[onepost]

Mizzou should've moved on from Dennis Gates after an 0 for SEC season. Kentucky should move on from Pope. UNC should've moved on from Davis.

This is really dumb.

UNC SHOULD move on from Hubert Davis.
He's a bad basketball coach.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Brew's responses in the last few pages makes sense if you remember he picked this abomination of a team to finish second in the Big East. He is simply lashing out and assigning blame for being so wrong.

[Hards Alumni]

He's kind of behaving and coaching like a guy who's going to step down after the season.

Glad someone else sees it.  The current landscape doesn't seem to be what he signed up for, and if he can't do things his way he may call it a day.  Someone like Shaka can easily transition to broadcast like Jay Wright.  Shaka is worth $15m (quick google search, don't @ me) and could walk away and be very comfortable for the rest of his life if he chooses.

Which he may.

[muwarrior69]

Glad someone else sees it.  The current landscape doesn't seem to be what he signed up for, and if he can't do things his way he may call it a day.  Someone like Shaka can easily transition to broadcast like Jay Wright.  Shaka is worth $15m (quick google search, don't @ me) and could walk away and be very comfortable for the rest of his life if he chooses.

Which he may.

Yeah! It does feel like Buzz's final season. The real question is will the Administration let the boosters spend their money to field a competitive team or do they have to go too. It will be an interesting off-season or perhaps sooner.

[Biggie Clausen]

Shaka will get another shot at a P5 job if he steps down after this season and maybe takes a year or two off to do TV or just disappear altogether.  He will be able to tell another school, "I tried to do something different with RGV, and it didn't work.  But look how much success I had when I used the transfer portal and got Kolek and O-Max."  Now, it wouldn't be a *good* P5 job; it'd be somewhere like Georgia Tech, Penn State, Ole Miss, etc.  But he'd get another shot.

If he stays at MU another year and sticks to the philosophy he's backed himself into, and next year's team is as bad as this year's, that will be very hard to come back from.  So, it would not surprise me at all to see him quit.  Based on his vibe during last night's press conference, it seems like he can't wait for the season to be over.

[GB Warrior]

Gottlieb announced he's finally focused on basketball, maybe we should get him

[LloydsLegs]

Y'all nuts

[wadesworld]

If that's the best you can come up with, probably time to log off and save yourself further embarrassment. Tonight ain't the night to defend this BS.

Nobody is defending "this BS."  What I'm defending is Shaka having 4 years of being an awesome coach at Marquette and firing him because he failed in year 5, which he obviously did.  The idea that he shouldn't get a chance to correct this is crazy, and the idea that he needs to "prove he deserves to be back" as our coach on a rolling 12 month basis is the most insane take Scoop has ever produced.

I can just imagine the coaching search if Shaka is fired.

Josh Schertz sitting in Broeker's office, deciding whether he might want to jump to Marquette, interview with Arizona State, or stay at SLU for another year: "So, Mike, you went a decade with no NCAA Tournament wins, Shaka came in and won a BE regular season and Tournament title, got the two highest seeds in your program's history, made a Sweet 16, and you fired him after his first missed Tournament.  Is that the kind of leash I would get if I'm taking this job?"

Broeker: "Well, Josh, I didn't hire Shaka, and we look at a 7 seed as a down year here at Marquette."

Scherz: "But you worked as closely with Shaka as anyone in the athletic department for his first 4 years, traveling with the team, etc.  Again, will I get fired after I miss the Tournament?"

Broeker: "Oh, Josh, we don't look at it season by season. We look at it on a rolling 12 month basis.  Shaka may have got a 7 seed in 2025, but January 2025-January 2026 he was garbage so we had no choice.  You can do an A- job through 3.5 years, but if a 12 month period is a failure, we're moving on.  Again, high expectations here at Marquette."

Scherz, trying to figure out if he should fall out of his chair laughing or look around to find Ashton Kutcher running out of a hiding spot, certain he is on "Punked."

[WhiteTrash]

Nobody is defending "this BS."  What I'm defending is Shaka having 4 years of being an awesome coach at Marquette and firing him because he failed in year 5, which he obviously did.  The idea that he shouldn't get a chance to correct this is crazy, and the idea that he should he needs to "prove he deserves to be back" as our coach on a rolling 12 month basis is the most insane take Scoop has ever produced.

I can just imagine the coaching search if Shaka is fired.

Josh Schertz sitting in Broeker's office, deciding whether he might want to jump to Marquette, interview with Arizona State, or stay at SLU for another year: "So, Mike, you went a decade with no NCAA Tournament wins, Shaka came in and won a BE regular season and Tournament title, got the two highest seeds in your program's history, made a Sweet 16, and you fired him after his first missed Tournament.  Is that the kind of leash I would get if I'm taking this job?"

Broeker: "Well, Josh, I didn't hire Shaka, and we look at a 7 seed as a down year here at Marquette."

Scherz: "But you worked as closely with Shaka as anyone in the athletic department for his first 4 years, traveling with the team, etc.  Again, will I get fired after I miss the Tournament?"

Broeker: "Oh, Josh, we don't look at it season by season. We look at it on a rolling 12 month basis.  Shaka may have got a 7 seed in 2025, but January 2025-January 2026 he was garbage so we had no choice.  You can do an A- job through 3.5 years, but if a 12 month period is a failure, we're moving on.  Again, high expectations here at Marquette."

Scherz, trying to figure out if he should fall out of his chair laughing or look around to find Ashton Kutcher running out of a hiding spot, certain he is on "Punked."

MU should not fire Shaka, but...

MU maybe going through a coaching search this spring.

[cheebs09]

MU should not fire Shaka, but...

MU maybe going through a coaching search this spring.

Is it bad I wish Scholl stayed on 2 years longer or we went outside?

[Pakuni]

Nobody is defending "this BS."  What I'm defending is Shaka having 4 years of being an awesome coach at Marquette and firing him because he failed in year 5, which he obviously did.  The idea that he shouldn't get a chance to correct this is crazy, and the idea that he needs to "prove he deserves to be back" as our coach on a rolling 12 month basis is the most insane take Scoop has ever produced.

I can just imagine the coaching search if Shaka is fired.

Josh Schertz sitting in Broeker's office, deciding whether he might want to jump to Marquette, interview with Arizona State, or stay at SLU for another year: "So, Mike, you went a decade with no NCAA Tournament wins, Shaka came in and won a BE regular season and Tournament title, got the two highest seeds in your program's history, made a Sweet 16, and you fired him after his first missed Tournament.  Is that the kind of leash I would get if I'm taking this job?"

Broeker: "Well, Josh, I didn't hire Shaka, and we look at a 7 seed as a down year here at Marquette."

Scherz: "But you worked as closely with Shaka as anyone in the athletic department for his first 4 years, traveling with the team, etc.  Again, will I get fired after I miss the Tournament?"

Broeker: "Oh, Josh, we don't look at it season by season. We look at it on a rolling 12 month basis.  Shaka may have got a 7 seed in 2025, but January 2025-January 2026 he was garbage so we had no choice.  You can do an A- job through 3.5 years, but if a 12 month period is a failure, we're moving on.  Again, high expectations here at Marquette."

Scherz, trying to figure out if he should fall out of his chair laughing or look around to find Ashton Kutcher running out of a hiding spot, certain he is on "Punked."

I think it's exceptionally unlikely Marquette fires Shaka after this season. But if it somehow does happen, it won't be because he missed one tournament. It would be because at the end of the year he stubbornly insists he won't change anything about a roster-building and coaching philosophy that brought sharply diminished returns over the previous 15 months. If Shaka walks into Mike Broeker's office for their end-of-year postmortem in (unfortunately) mid-March and says "I'm not changing a thing," then that's a fireable offense.
If Shaka outlines a plan to make needed changes aimed at engineering a turnaround, he definitely gets another year.

[Hards Alumni]

I think it's exceptionally unlikely Marquette fires Shaka after this season. But if it somehow does happen, it won't be because he missed one tournament. It would be because at the end of the year he stubbornly insists he won't change anything about a roster-building and coaching philosophy that brought sharply diminished returns over the previous 15 months. If Shaka walks into Mike Broeker's office for their end-of-year postmortem in (unfortunately) mid-March and says "I'm not changing a thing," then that's a fireable offense.
If Shaka outlines a plan to make needed changes aimed at engineering a turnaround, he definitely gets another year.

Yep, this is where I am at.  This is still big time basketball.

[panda]

I think it's exceptionally unlikely Marquette fires Shaka after this season. But if it somehow does happen, it won't be because he missed one tournament. It would be because at the end of the year he stubbornly insists he won't change anything about a roster-building and coaching philosophy that brought sharply diminished returns over the previous 15 months. If Shaka walks into Mike Broeker's office for their end-of-year postmortem in (unfortunately) mid-March and says "I'm not changing a thing," then that's a fireable offense.
If Shaka outlines a plan to make needed changes aimed at engineering a turnaround, he definitely gets another year.

Agree 100%. I think most, if not all of us want Shaka to succeed. But if he refuses to make wholesale changes to this roster going into next season, what is the point of keeping him on? Have a mediocre season, miss the tournament again and then fire him?

[Shooter McGavin]

Wades, I agree that firing him after this year is not reasonable after what he has done the first four years.

What is really awkward for all parties involved (Shaka, BOT, AD, Boosters, fans) is that this is no ordinary down year.  Marquette is trending toward Chicago St bad.  That on top of the head first dive into the deep end on RGV and no portal use is making it cringingly awkward.

The best of all worlds is a course correction at the end of the year.  Hard conversations with the current juniors need to take place.  The freshman and sophomores can be a part of the answer.  The two redshirts who are not projects similar to Caedin and Clark should also be a part of the answer.  Next years freshman hopefully will be too.  Add three portal players and MU is trending upward again in a HURRY. Next year at this time we may all be laughing at this.

Ultimately, it will be Shaka's decision to have these hard conversations with the juniors and all the parents on this team.  I guarantee the parents of the players who are staying will be on board.  Their sons signed up for a perennial  top 25 team not Chicago St.  There may be some backlash by the parents of the juniors.  But that's life and it will be swept under the rug.

Here's hoping Shaka makes the right decision.  He is a great ambassador for MU and I hope he is here for a long time.

[CountryRoads]

Is it bad I wish Scholl stayed on 2 years longer or we went outside?

What is the general sentiment on Broeker nowadays? If we're looking for a new coach in the Spring, is he the guy we want leading that situation? I've been puzzled at some of the non conference scheduling decisions the past 2 years, the various ticket fiascos, etc. Just kind of seems like he may be way in over his head, but really just asking what others think of him.

[brewcity77]

What is really awkward for all parties involved (Shaka, BOT, AD, Boosters, fans) is that this is no ordinary down year.  Marquette is trending toward Chicago St bad.

THIS!

It isn't that we're having a down year. If we pull out the Dayton, Oklahoma, and Maryland games, we're sitting at 8-4 and probably a similar spot in analytics, but you can at least sugar coat that "hey, maybe we have a chance if we get hot in the league."

This season was over in November. This is looking like a worse season than what got Wojo or Deane fired. This looks like it could rival Dukiet's lowest point. We are going to have 3 more months of this negativity festering. Wojo and Deane at least had some life into January.

If we were just routine bad, 70-90 in kenpom, faint hope at turning things around but at least having a Crown/NIT bid on the horizon with a promising young crop of players who don't quite get it yet, it would be different. Instead, we are the worst team in the league and losing our two best players next year with a full roster and no scholarship flexibility.

Maybe I was spoiled by being at Marquette in 2003, by seeing the heights of Crean and Buzz, and even by Shaka's own performance from 2022-25. The reality is as much as the year that got Wojo fired was unacceptable by Marquette standards, this is exponentially worse.

Shaka is the captain of this ship. When the captain is ignoring everyone telling him about the iceberg, instead steering directly into it with no attempt to course-correct and the boat sinks, you're not going to be a captain after the rescue crews pick you up no matter how well you did before you rammed into an iceberg.

If you had told me before the season I'd be at this point before the New Year, I wouldn't have believed it, but when you have a historically bad season then unprecedented actions regarding leadership are far more justifiable.

[cheebs09]

I don't think the last season alone got Wojo fired. There was a body of work there that showed things probably weren't going to improve too much and he pushed back on the administration's request to update the staff.

I could get on board with parting ways with Shaka if at the end of the year he says, I'm not going in the portal and will run this same team back next year.

[Elonsmusk]

Nobody is defending "this BS."  What I'm defending is Shaka having 4 years of being an awesome coach at Marquette and firing him because he failed in year 5, which he obviously did.  The idea that he shouldn't get a chance to correct this is crazy, and the idea that he needs to "prove he deserves to be back" as our coach on a rolling 12 month basis is the most insane take Scoop has ever produced.

I can just imagine the coaching search if Shaka is fired.

Josh Schertz sitting in Broeker's office, deciding whether he might want to jump to Marquette, interview with Arizona State, or stay at SLU for another year: "So, Mike, you went a decade with no NCAA Tournament wins, Shaka came in and won a BE regular season and Tournament title, got the two highest seeds in your program's history, made a Sweet 16, and you fired him after his first missed Tournament.  Is that the kind of leash I would get if I'm taking this job?"

Broeker: "Well, Josh, I didn't hire Shaka, and we look at a 7 seed as a down year here at Marquette."

Scherz: "But you worked as closely with Shaka as anyone in the athletic department for his first 4 years, traveling with the team, etc.  Again, will I get fired after I miss the Tournament?"

Broeker: "Oh, Josh, we don't look at it season by season. We look at it on a rolling 12 month basis.  Shaka may have got a 7 seed in 2025, but January 2025-January 2026 he was garbage so we had no choice.  You can do an A- job through 3.5 years, but if a 12 month period is a failure, we're moving on.  Again, high expectations here at Marquette."

Scherz, trying to figure out if he should fall out of his chair laughing or look around to find Ashton Kutcher running out of a hiding spot, certain he is on "Punked."

Well done, and right on target.  The angst and dart throwing toward Shaka by some Scoopers is embarrassing, and ignorant AF.

[panda]

THIS!

It isn't that we're having a down year. If we pull out the Dayton, Oklahoma, and Maryland games, we're sitting at 8-4 and probably a similar spot in analytics, but you can at least sugar coat that "hey, maybe we have a chance if we get hot in the league."

This season was over in November. This is looking like a worse season than what got Wojo or Deane fired. This looks like it could rival Dukiet's lowest point. We are going to have 3 more months of this negativity festering. Wojo and Deane at least had some life into January.

If we were just routine bad, 70-90 in kenpom, faint hope at turning things around but at least having a Crown/NIT bid on the horizon with a promising young crop of players who don't quite get it yet, it would be different. Instead, we are the worst team in the league and losing our two best players next year with a full roster and no scholarship flexibility.

Maybe I was spoiled by being at Marquette in 2003, by seeing the heights of Crean and Buzz, and even by Shaka's own performance from 2022-25. The reality is as much as the year that got Wojo fired was unacceptable by Marquette standards, this is exponentially worse.

Shaka is the captain of this ship. When the captain is ignoring everyone telling him about the iceberg, instead steering directly into it with no attempt to course-correct and the boat sinks, you're not going to be a captain after the rescue crews pick you up no matter how well you did before you rammed into an iceberg.

If you had told me before the season I'd be at this point before the New Year, I wouldn't have believed it, but when you have a historically bad season then unprecedented actions regarding leadership are far more justifiable.

I've been saying this over and over again. Down years happen, this is an abomination. Completely by Shaka's own doing. This isn't year 1 with a roster overhaul. This is what he has been working towards! It is beyond reprehensible and if things continue to get worse, the boos will get louder and we will reach a point, like Wojo, where it is an untenable situation from a negative fan perspective.