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Do you have a threshold for showing Shaka the door in March?

No. None. You're overreacting and insane. He took us to a S16 FFS! A S16!!!
97 (44.3%)
Last place in the BE with a statement he's not going to the portal.
73 (33.3%)
Sub-500 in conference with a statement he's not going to the portal
33 (15.1%)
Missing the NCATT - we can still make it right?
0 (0%)
Why wait until the end of the season?
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Total Members Voted: 219

onepost

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 17, 2025, 04:48:17 PMI'm not the one spouting a conspiracy theory based on what a handful of relatives posted on social media

Conspiracy theory? Hahaha we're getting RGV shoved down our throats like the fat kid eating cake in Matilda and that sentiment seems to be all-encompassing at the Al!

IL Warrior

So how many losses will it take to get rid of Shaka? Will 27 be enough, because I think that number might be attainable.

JTJ3

Finishing the season with single digit wins would make things real interesting

K1 Lover

Quote from: IL Warrior on December 17, 2025, 09:30:19 PMSo how many losses will it take to get rid of Shaka? Will 27 be enough, because I think that number might be attainable.

We could lose every game the rest of the season and he'll be just fine. No one's gonna fire Shaka over one bad year, no matter how bad it gets. He'll be given a chance to turn things around next season.

The seat will get very hot, however, if next season starts and no changes are made.

IL Warrior

Quote from: K1 Lover on December 17, 2025, 09:52:17 PMWe could lose every game the rest of the season and he'll be just fine. No one's gonna fire Shaka over one bad year, no matter how bad it gets. He'll be given a chance to turn things around next season.

The seat will get very hot, however, if next season starts and no changes are made.
Sadly, I believe you. An 0-20 conference season, 0-27 against non-cupcakes should be a guaranteed firing, but I don't believe Broeker would pull the trigger.

brewcity77

Completely outcoached by Cooley. No answer for a zone, benching starters with no explanation, continuing with these incomprehensible lineups, I'm not sure what happened but Shaka looks inept out there. Beaten soundly by a depleted Georgetown.

Gary Parish always says he's not sure why programs give guys an extra year when it's clear they're going to be fired at the end of it. Thus far, there is zero indication Shaka should be back beyond this year.

Seriously, anyone, what is one thing Shaka has done in this 2025-26 season that warrants bringing him back?

wadesworld

Firing Shaka after his first bad year would be insane. Deciding every year whether a coach has done well enough in that year to bring him back is a horrendous way to run a basketball program.

brewcity77

Quote from: wadesworld on December 17, 2025, 10:09:34 PMFiring Shaka after his first bad year would be insane. Deciding every year whether a coach has done well enough in that year to bring him back is a horrendous way to run a basketball program.

So what you're saying is "he has done absolutely nothing in 2025-26 to warrant coming back another year."

Noted.

panda

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 17, 2025, 10:05:49 PMCompletely outcoached by Cooley. No answer for a zone, benching starters with no explanation, continuing with these incomprehensible lineups, I'm not sure what happened but Shaka looks inept out there. Beaten soundly by a depleted Georgetown.

Gary Parish always says he's not sure why programs give guys an extra year when it's clear they're going to be fired at the end of it. Thus far, there is zero indication Shaka should be back beyond this year.

Seriously, anyone, what is one thing Shaka has done in this 2025-26 season that warrants bringing him back?

I never enjoy the hot seat conversation but after tonight it is warranted.

Shaka prides himself on relationships and already showed his loyalty to players well below the Marquette standard.

If he stays on next season, the majority of the players from this year will be back.

The only way to right this ship at this point is to start completely fresh.

What is improvement from this season? Not losing every single game to teams with a pulse?

panda

Quote from: wadesworld on December 17, 2025, 10:09:34 PMFiring Shaka after his first bad year would be insane. Deciding every year whether a coach has done well enough in that year to bring him back is a horrendous way to run a basketball program.

This isn't a bad year. It's a catastrophe that should never happen at a program like Marquette.

wadesworld

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 17, 2025, 10:10:52 PMSo what you're saying is "he has done absolutely nothing in 2025-26 to warrant coming back another year."

Noted.

Mizzou should've moved on from Dennis Gates after an 0 for SEC season. Kentucky should move on from Pope. UNC should've moved on from Davis.

This is really dumb.

cheebs09

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 17, 2025, 10:10:52 PMSo what you're saying is "he has done absolutely nothing in 2025-26 to warrant coming back another year."

Noted.

This has so far been an awful year, but you can't just write off his first 4. I think his seat is scalding if he doubles down on not taking transfers going into next year.

I think he's a good enough coach that if he can find a few guys in the portal and our young guys take a step (which very much didn't happen this year) he can right the ship.

Firing a guy for one terrible year after 4 straight tourneys, 2 of which are 2 seeds is too quick in my opinion. However, if he shows he's not willing to adjust with the times, you have to move on.

brewcity77

Quote from: wadesworld on December 17, 2025, 10:13:12 PMMizzou should've moved on from Dennis Gates after an 0 for SEC season. Kentucky should move on from Pope. UNC should've moved on from Davis.

This is really dumb.

Do you want a shovel? You seem intent on continuing to dig with no defense for your position.

panda

Quote from: cheebs09 on December 17, 2025, 10:16:39 PMThis has so far been an awful year, but you can't just write off his first 4. I think his seat is scalding if he doubles down on not taking transfers going into next year.

I think he's a good enough coach that if he can find a few guys in the portal and our young guys take a step (which very much didn't happen this year) he can right the ship.

Firing a guy for one terrible year after 4 straight tourneys, 2 of which are 2 seeds is too quick in my opinion. However, if he shows he's not willing to adjust with the times, you have to move on.

You cut bait this season if he says he's rolling into next year with this roster.

wadesworld

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 17, 2025, 10:17:02 PMDo you want a shovel? You seem intent on continuing to dig with no defense for your position.

Lol. My position is it's absurd to fire a coach that has had nothing but success for his first four years for one bad year, and to determine whether a coach "deserves to be back" every year, without taking into account the entire tenure. That's an absolutely asinine way to run an athletic department. I know we're failing your expectations and I know you think a 7 seed should be MU's down year despite history saying that's crazy, but you're smarter than this.

Gary Parish saying something about guys who haven't had any success at their job doesn't mean it applies to every individual season. There's also a reason Gary Parish is a journalist and not running an athletic department.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: wadesworld on December 17, 2025, 10:13:12 PMMizzou should've moved on from Dennis Gates after an 0 for SEC season. Kentucky should move on from Pope. UNC should've moved on from Davis.

This is really dumb.

I'm mostly on your side but come on the Pope and Davis comparisons are frankly laughable.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

panda

Quote from: wadesworld on December 17, 2025, 10:19:28 PMLol. My position is it's absurd to fire a coach that has had nothing but success for his first four years for one bad year, and to determine whether a coach "deserves to be back" every year, without taking into account the entire tenure. That's an absolutely asinine way to run an athletic department. I know we're failing your expectations and I know you think a 7 seed should be MU's down year despite history saying that's crazy, but you're smarter than this.

Gary Parish saying something about guys who haven't had any success at their job doesn't mean it applies to every individual season. There's also a reason Gary Parish is a journalist and not running an athletic department.

*3.5 years of success and currently leading Marquette to one of its worst seasons ever.

brewcity77

Quote from: cheebs09 on December 17, 2025, 10:16:39 PMI think he's a good enough coach that if he can find a few guys in the portal and our young guys take a step (which very much didn't happen this year) he can right the ship.

What this season has shown that? He's coaching scared. Won't call timeouts. Can't scheme against a zone. Defense is broken. I don't know WTF happened but the biggest problem with this team is what's happening on the sidelines. I've never seen a coach so thoroughly out of ideas.

Pakuni

Quote from: wadesworld on December 17, 2025, 10:13:12 PMMizzou should've moved on from Dennis Gates after an 0 for SEC season. Kentucky should move on from Pope. UNC should've moved on from Davis.

This is really dumb.

I mean, UNC should have moved on from Davis.

LAZER

Quote from: wadesworld on December 17, 2025, 10:13:12 PMMizzou should've moved on from Dennis Gates after an 0 for SEC season. Kentucky should move on from Pope. UNC should've moved on from Davis.

This is really dumb.
I don't know if any of these guys will actually get fired, but if any of them have a disappointing season they'll be on the hot seat.

wadesworld

Quote from: Galway Eagle on December 17, 2025, 10:21:04 PMI'm mostly on your side but come on the Pope and Davis comparisons are frankly laughable.

Are they? They are ACTUALLY at blue bloods. Marquette is nowhere near the level of Kentucky or UNC. And Davis has disappointed for multiple seasons.

brewcity77

Quote from: wadesworld on December 17, 2025, 10:19:28 PMLol. My position is it's absurd to fire a coach that has had nothing but success for his first four years for one bad year, and to determine whether a coach "deserves to be back" every year, without taking into account the entire tenure. That's an absolutely asinine way to run an athletic department. I know we're failing your expectations and I know you think a 7 seed should be MU's down year despite history saying that's crazy, but you're smarter than this.

Gary Parish saying something about guys who haven't had any success at their job doesn't mean it applies to every individual season. There's also a reason Gary Parish is a journalist and not running an athletic department.

So still not one single thing he's done this year to justify him returning next year. At least you're making use of that shovel.

wadesworld

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 17, 2025, 10:25:43 PMSo still not one single thing he's done this year to justify him returning next year. At least you're making use of that shovel.

Okay. You are this dumb.

LAZER

Quote from: wadesworld on December 17, 2025, 10:23:25 PMAre they? They are ACTUALLY at blue bloods. Marquette is nowhere near the level of Kentucky or UNC. And Davis has disappointed for multiple seasons.
Is the argument that since blue bloods will let a coach hang around for too long, Marquette should?

panda

Quote from: wadesworld on December 17, 2025, 10:27:16 PMOkay. You are this dumb.

Play along - what happens next season? How do results improve from here?

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