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Do you have a threshold for showing Shaka the door in March?

No. None. You're overreacting and insane. He took us to a S16 FFS! A S16!!!
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Last place in the BE with a statement he's not going to the portal.
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MuggsyB

Quote from: WhiteTrash on December 06, 2025, 06:56:43 PMI'm all in favor of giving Shaka a Mulligan this year, but that was piss poor communications to the public. I really hope he comes back later with a more reasonable response and we chalk it up to being pissed off from the game.

I couldn't agree more.  This  isn't what fans want to hear right now.  We're not watching our kids play T-Ball. 


Jables1604

You know Ners is sideways about all this Shaka criticism. #shakaslurper

Biggie Clausen

Shaka's postgame pressers follow a simple formula: Start with a snippy response to a perfectly reasonable question, mention how we were good the last few years, then talk about growth.

panda

Quote from: Biggie Clausen on December 06, 2025, 07:04:28 PMShaka's postgame pressers follow a simple formula: Start with a snippy response to a perfectly reasonable question, mention how we were good the last few years, then talk about growth.

We want a shower not a grower #pawz

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 06, 2025, 06:38:24 PMhttps://x.com/i/status/1997435176217878529

https://x.com/i/status/1997435467353014419

This thread sure isn't very inspiring.

Do you really think he'd say he's reconsidered the portal 1/3 of the way through the season when he's trying to build confidence with the current team?

Use some common sense.

Small Orange Soda

The reason we're ahead in practice is because we're scrimmaging against a bad team (ourselves).

WhiteTrash

Quote from: onepost on December 06, 2025, 07:02:11 PMIf you follow what he says after each of these games, THIS is the message. This is it, every time.
I guess I really don't follow that closely, but to twist a question into a some assumption that MU will cancel the season is very immature and pathetic.

I support him still being positive and sounding unreasonable at that, but "cancel the season" BS is bush league for a high major coach. He's acting like the reporter and fans are idiots.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 06, 2025, 07:13:08 PMDo you really think he'd say he's reconsidered the portal 1/3 of the way through the season when he's trying to build confidence with the current team?

Use some common sense.
I have a high degree of respect for Shaka and I 100% believe he is reconsidering his strategy, but I agree he would not and should not express that right now.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 06, 2025, 07:13:08 PMDo you really think he'd say he's reconsidered the portal 1/3 of the way through the season when he's trying to build confidence with the current team?

Use some common sense.

I don't think that's what he's suggesting.  It's about showing some frustration or anger about how we're playing.    It's about being pissed that we look like one of the absolute worst teams in the country.  He said our win over Valpo was gritty and character building?  This is a la-la-land response and not the least bit motivating or encouraging. 

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 06, 2025, 07:18:46 PMI don't think that's what he's suggesting.  It's about showing some frustration or anger about how we're playing.    It's about being pissed that we look like one of the absolute worst teams in the country.  He said our win over Valpo was gritty and character building?  This is a la-la-land response and not the least bit motivating or encouraging.

Who cares and what difference does it make?

It's not his job to assuage upset fans with meaningless anger or frustration during a press conference. That's not going to do any good.

Now, I do think he's been too defensive and snarky when asked perfectly reasonable questions about the portal and team struggles. He certainly needs to be better when it comes to that.

onepost

#85
Quote from: WhiteTrash on December 06, 2025, 07:15:59 PMI guess I really don't follow that closely, but to twist a question into a some assumption that MU will cancel the season is very immature and pathetic.

I support him still being positive and sounding unreasonable at that, but "cancel the season" BS is bush league for a high major coach. He's acting like the reporter and fans are idiots.

He did the same shiit with Ben Steele after Dayton. Ben asked about portal usage and Shaka said "Are YOU asking me that, Ben? No? Ok then I don't need to answer it." He's acted like a brat.

No one is saying he needs to admit he was totally wrong and he's gonna ship off half the time and portal his ass off. But he's been so defiant and offended at tepid questions from MU homer reporters (I say lovingly, cause Ben and Jack do awesome work) that it lends he truly believes what he's doing is the best way to go about it. Which is beyond worrisome.

GoFastAndWin

#86
Here's the thing. If we Sha-cut a couple players at the end of the season, does this hurt our recruiting model going forward, given the unique nature of our m.o.? If the guys we cut have trouble securing NIL deals going forward with other teams, will people (HS coaches) make note of that and lead to us losing out on some of the 80-150 ranked players we depend on? I realize it's a tough business and I'm not trying to coddle anyone. Just wondering people's thoughts on the real world effects of people's income going way down bc of a decision a program makes. I know, real world applies and all...

MuggsyB

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 06, 2025, 07:25:26 PMWho cares and what difference does it make?

It's not his job to assuage upset fans with meaningless anger or frustration during a press conference. That's not going to do any good.

Now, I do think he's been too defensive and snarky when asked perfectly reasonable questions about the portal and team struggles. He certainly needs to be better when it comes to that.

I'm not sure coaches get angry or animated to assuage fans.  It's a normal human response to this absolute dumpster 🔥. 

Jay Bee

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on December 06, 2025, 07:02:50 PMI don't know that I want to make a bet where I am actually put in a position to root for my favorite team to lose. Let me tell think about it.

Not sure what "let me tell think about it" means, but I'm guessing it means, "I said some crap I didn't really mean ooops"... I'll let you have a little more -- 5 wins. 5 wins or less, you win $400. 6 or more I win.
The portal is NOT closed.

MU82

#89
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 06, 2025, 06:38:24 PMhttps://x.com/i/status/1997435176217878529

https://x.com/i/status/1997435467353014419

This thread sure isn't very inspiring.

This does not refute what I said.

Also, this:

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 06, 2025, 07:13:08 PMDo you really think he'd say he's reconsidered the portal 1/3 of the way through the season when he's trying to build confidence with the current team?

Use some common sense.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 06, 2025, 07:30:37 PMI'm not sure coaches get angry or animated to assuage fans.  It's a normal human response to this absolute dumpster 🔥.

Being frustrated is normal.

You're saying you want to see him angry at a press conference. That's dumb and pointless and unproductive.

BM1090

Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 06, 2025, 05:49:44 PMWojo never had a team this bad in advanced metrics.  The only one even close was his 1st team ever as a head coach.

Edit: and this team's #s are still being propped up by last year's #s

Yes he did. Year 2. 93 Kenpom.

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: Jay Bee on December 06, 2025, 07:32:05 PMNot sure what "let me tell think about it" means, but I'm guessing it means, "I said some crap I didn't really mean ooops"... I'll let you have a little more -- 5 wins. 5 wins or less, you win $400. 6 or more I win.
Done.

For fun, who do you think they can beat? 

Jay Bee

The portal is NOT closed.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: BM1090 on December 06, 2025, 07:35:04 PMYes he did. Year 2. 93 Kenpom.

1) I'm not fancy enough to pay for kenpom these days.  Going with torvik #s
https://barttorvik.com/team-history.php?team=Marquette

2) If you remove last year's adjustments, were worse than 93  :(

Jay Bee

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on December 06, 2025, 07:35:56 PMDone.

For fun, who do you think they can beat? 

'they'... We can beat anyone, any night.

Staff just needs to wisen up. Thanks for the $400. Venmo preferred my guy
The portal is NOT closed.

DoctorV

Quote from: 1SE on December 06, 2025, 03:36:32 PMWe're getting worse. Players have regressed. To fall this far, this fast, when this is the team you've spent the last 4 years recruiting... Couple that with the underperformance in the tourney since he's been here. Anything that would make you want to show Shaka the door at the end of THIS year?

No, nothing.

I'd wager to say that even if Marquette had the worst season in its history this year it would be borderline insanity to even consider moving on from Shaka after the first 4 years he's had at Marquette.

Come on now

Jay Bee

Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 06, 2025, 07:37:57 PM1) I'm not fancy enough to pay for kenpom these days.  Going with torvik #s
https://barttorvik.com/team-history.php?team=Marquette

2) If you remove last year's adjustments, were worse than 93  :(

Great; tell me about the relevance of this when a guy is talking about Kenpom?
The portal is NOT closed.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 06, 2025, 07:34:33 PMBeing frustrated is normal.

You're saying you want to see him angry at a press conference. That's dumb and pointless and unproductive.

Is saying we're improving in practice productive after getting obliterated?

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: Jay Bee on December 06, 2025, 07:39:00 PM'they'... We can beat anyone, any night.

Staff just needs to wisen up. Thanks for the $400. Venmo preferred my guy
Sure. I'll expect prompt payment at the end of the season.

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