Chances vs the Weasels?

[wadesworld]

There is simply no way we beat them.

First true road game of careers for some of the better players on our team. We can't shoot, they score a ton.

If this game is within 15 I would be stunned. If we keep the Purdue game within 25 I would be stunned.

There is simply no chance.

Gard always gets it done.

[willie warrior]

Maybe ben will go 12-15 for 3s.

Gooollllllddd Brick!

[Miss Katie’s]

Saturday could certainly look like their game right now vs Northwestern. 

[PointWarrior]

Probably the only year you can't really that and mean it. 

Throw the records out the window folks

[MuggsyB]

Saturday could certainly look like their game right now vs Northwestern. 

Or it's good news for us?  They won't play like this Saturday. 

[K1 Lover]

Or it's good news for us?  They won't play like this Saturday.

They're currently shooting 47% from deep against Northwestern (with Blackwell being 5-7). Law of averages wants me to say yes, but our 3pt defense might have something to say about that.

[MuggsyB]

Force Boyd right.  Make the concerted effort.   As for Blackwell?  He's capable of going off but is definitely streaky.  The glass is our biggest issue.   

[willie warrior]

Yes Jimginia, there is a Santa Claus and a tooth fairy.

[Jay Bee]

Looking at FanMatch for Saturday.. crazy to see MU / Becky sooooo far down the list. Really stinks. We're far behind glorious match ups that day like George Mason at Va Tech, Santa Clara at New Mex, OK St. vs. Grand Canyon, Boise St. at Buter, and Utah Valley at Bowling Green.

Will the game be over by the time my clinic with HURRICANE TYRA BLACK is done at 1:30pm on Saturday? Hope not. 

[vogue65]

Saturday could certainly look like their game right now vs Northwestern. 

Why is that?

Because the BOT, board of trustees, have similar values.  It's called priorities.  Academic priorities.

I was active around here ten years ago when I witnessed decisionsto turn Marquette basketball into Princeton basketball.  Here we are, enjoy.

The BIG issue was Buzz using junior college players.  Now the issue is the transfer portal. 

Nothing changes.

All that changes is that MUSCOOP is apparently more civilized.  Not civilized, but more civilized.  I'm now 82, who cares, but what goes around comes around.

[wisblue]

No crazier than them beating us here in 2022. That happened because Chucky hit some of the stupidest shots ever, including the turnaround fade away three near the end of regulation. If we shoot 40+% from three, decent chance we get the win, but I'm not at all convinced we can shoot that well for a full game against anyone, much less a high-major on the road.

For reasons that I gave when you said this on another thread, it would be MUCH crazier.

[The Sultan]

Why is that?

Because the BOT, board of trustees, have similar values.  It's called priorities.  Academic priorities.

I was active around here ten years ago when I witnessed decisionsto turn Marquette basketball into Princeton basketball.  Here we are, enjoy.

The BIG issue was Buzz using junior college players.  Now the issue is the transfer portal. 

This is just misguided. Shaka could use the transfer portal all he wants - he just doesn't want to.

And this team was ranked in the top 10 just a year ago.

Stop being so dramatic.

[79Warrior]

Force Boyd right.  Make the concerted effort.   As for Blackwell?  He's capable of going off but is definitely streaky.  The glass is our biggest issue.   

Shooting,lack of in our case, is our biggest issue.

[brewcity77]

For reasons that I gave when you said this on another thread, it would be MUCH crazier.

It wouldn't be.

If you go through T-Rank, Marquette was playing like the #16 team in the country to that point of the 2023 season, Wisconsin was playing like the #55 team in the country. It isn't quite apples to apples, but when current #56 Butler plays at #15 St. John's this year, T-Rank has Butler as a +12.2 point underdog with a 14% chance to win.

Currently, T-Rank has us as a +10.4 underdog with an 18% chance to win. That's using preseason data. If you filter it to just this year, we are ranked #112 and Wisconsin is #35. If you look at when current #112 DePaul plays at current #38 Creighton, they are +11.4 with a 15% chance to win.

The spread was likely lower at the time because Vegas was factoring in preseason expectations that had us ranked #32 in kenpom and Wisconsin just slightly behind at #47, but we all know the gap in reality was much larger between those two teams. Any way you split it, the probabilities would be within a few points on either spreads or percentages.

[Billy Hoyle]

Why is that?

Because the BOT, board of trustees, have similar values.  It's called priorities.  Academic priorities.

I was active around here ten years ago when I witnessed decisionsto turn Marquette basketball into Princeton basketball.  Here we are, enjoy.

The BIG issue was Buzz using junior college players.  Now the issue is the transfer portal. 

Nothing changes.

All that changes is that MUSCOOP is apparently more civilized.  Not civilized, but more civilized.  I'm now 82, who cares, but what goes around comes around.

the issue wasn't JUCOs, it was that those JUCOs (and other Buzz recruits) were eligibility risks every year, as well as the off-court behavior by players.

[brewcity77]

the issue wasn't JUCOs, it was that those JUCOs (and other Buzz recruits) were eligibility risks every year, as well as the off-court behavior by players.

Correct. The issue was the academic eligibility, which is why we still brought in Jameel McKay from JUCO and would've brought Willie Atwood (ended up at ASU) had Buzz stuck around. As long as academics were in line, admin was okay with it, but some of those transcripts (Jae Crowder in particular) were disasters.

[Billy Hoyle]

Correct. The issue was the academic eligibility, which is why we still brought in Jameel McKay from JUCO and would've brought Willie Atwood (ended up at ASU) had Buzz stuck around. As long as academics were in line, admin was okay with it, but some of those transcripts (Jae Crowder in particular) were disasters.

when nearly every player on the roster needed summer classes just to get eligible that's a problem. Summer classes are meant to get players ahead, so there aren't PTD or minimum GPA issues. That wasn't happening under Buzz, and he didn't care.

[WhiteTrash]

Maybe we can beat DePaul and keep them out of the tournament

Keeping DePaul out of the CBI would make this season worth it.

[TallTitan34]

Five years ago today a crappy MU team knocked off the #4 Badgers.

Granted, circumstances were unique.

https://x.com/MUOverload/status/1996585094811705662