It's one game, but.....

[wadesworld]

my fav thing in sports is winning. Anyway, anyhow. Win now. Tired of players that must 'develop'. Today? We basically got smoked by a MVC team.

An MVC team? Tell me you don't pay attention to basketball without telling me you don't pay attention to basketball.

[wadesworld]

I hope we aren't comparing Marquette to the Brewers. I would like to think Marquette has a chance to compete for championships eventually. The Brewers will never.

It's way more likely the Brewers win a WS than MU wins a national title. Spending in college athletics is just as uneven as in the MLB. If college athletics puts something to the effect of a salary cap in place, we know programs will pay under the table. There's 30 MLB teams. There's 366 college basketball teams. It's unrealistic to expect a national title for Marquette. Possible? Of course. But extremely unlikely.

[Farley36]

Leave it to scoop to argue about two shitty teams and which is shittier.

[DoctorV]

Leave it to scoop to argue about two shitty teams and which is shittier.

Do you support any non shitty teams, Farley?

[GoldenEagles03]

It's way more likely the Brewers win a WS than MU wins a national title. Spending in college athletics is just as uneven as in the MLB. If college athletics puts something to the effect of a salary cap in place, we know programs will pay under the table. There's 30 MLB teams. There's 366 college basketball teams. It's unrealistic to expect a national title for Marquette. Possible? Of course. But extremely unlikely.

I still disagree! For a mid major school sure. Marquette is a major college basketball program that can position themselves to win and puts themselves in position to win often.

There are people in here that have seen Marquette win a Championship. We've even seen them make a Final Four. Nobody has ever or probably will ever see the Brewers win.

[GB Warrior]

I'm not quite sure why we're conflating two incompatible sports but if we're looking at how much 'trying' each team does, the Brewers turn over every possible rock to acquire talent, and they fail fast when a particular piece doesn't work. Time will tell for Marquette - they obviously need to sleep in the bed they've made for this year.

[wadesworld]

I still disagree! For a mid major school sure. Marquette is a major college basketball program that can position themselves to win and puts themselves in position to win often.

There are people in here that have seen Marquette win a Championship. We've even seen them make a Final Four. Nobody has ever or probably will ever see the Brewers win.

Anyone who saw Marquette win a national title also saw the Brewers lose in a game 7 of a World Series.

The Brewers had a game 7 NLCS home game in the last decade. Just by a numbers game, they're competing with way fewer teams for a title.

[brewcity77]

Ehh.

Senior year of Kolek/Oso had a better chance of winning a championship than the Brewers did this year in what was one of their best seasons ever.

I think Junior year was a better chance, considering how it played out. If Tyler doesn't break his hand against Vermont, then follow it up with a career high in turnovers against Michigan State, the path of K-State, FAU, San Diego State, UConn (who we beat 2/3) was a very manageable path to a Championship.

Senior year, we would've had to beat a Purdue team that beat us earlier in the season and a UConn team that beat us three times by an average of 17 points and always by at least three possessions.

But I also think Marquette has a better chance at winning a title just because of how the NCAA Tournament works. In a 7-game series, the best team is more often to win, and as the Dodgers showed, the Brewers just don't have the financial wherewithal to be that team. In 2023, if Tyler doesn't break his hand, we would have been favored in every game until the first Monday in April.

[GoldenEagles03]

I think Junior year was a better chance, considering how it played out. If Tyler doesn't break his hand against Vermont, then follow it up with a career high in turnovers against Michigan State, the path of K-State, FAU, San Diego State, UConn (who we beat 2/3) was a very manageable path to a Championship.

Senior year, we would've had to beat a Purdue team that beat us earlier in the season and a UConn team that beat us three times by an average of 17 points and always by at least three possessions.

But I also think Marquette has a better chance at winning a title just because of how the NCAA Tournament works. In a 7-game series, the best team is more often to win, and as the Dodgers showed, the Brewers just don't have the financial wherewithal to be that team. In 2023, if Tyler doesn't break his hand, we would have been favored in every game until the first Monday in April.

Fair!

We did lose to Purdue by what? 3 and they hit a 75 footer at the halftime buzzer. Also getting UConn for a 4th time after they beat us in games 2 and 3 without Kolek would have been a fun twist!

But I totally get where you are coming from.

[Billy Hoyle]

I think Junior year was a better chance, considering how it played out. If Tyler doesn't break his hand against Vermont, then follow it up with a career high in turnovers against Michigan State, the path of K-State, FAU, San Diego State, UConn (who we beat 2/3) was a very manageable path to a Championship.

In 2023, if Tyler doesn't break his hand, we would have been favored in every game until the first Monday in April.

broken hand? It was reported that he injured his wrist and/or his thumb on his non-shooting hand I've never read anything about a broken hand. Was that kept on the DL?

[jesmu84]

You've pretty much summed up Jones right there.

I don't understand what people see in Sean. Super quick/athletic player with little to no significant offensive ability.

Can definitely use those traits to help the team.

But I don't believe he should be anywhere near the starting PG role or expectation

[WhiteTrash]

I don't understand what people see in Sean. Super quick/athletic player with little to no significant offensive ability.

Can definitely use those traits to help the team.

But I don't believe he should be anywhere near the starting PG role or expectation

This is fair.

[MU82]

Sean Jones made some huge shots for us in 2023-24 before he got injured, including arguably the biggest basket of the entire regular season (his game-winning 3 against UCLA in Maui).

So we saw him be a difference-maker in real time. Combine that with the extremely bullish accounts from the several months before this season began, including repeated praise from the head coach, and I don't think it was unreasonable for Marquette fans to expect him to be a positive contributor to this team.