2025-26 Big East Thread

[wadesworld]

So Greg getting two players from a bad B1G team in the transfer portal didn't guarantee the gap was going to widen and Greg was at least trying to win, unlike Shaka?  Huh.

[Viper]

That would explain Craighton's decisive victory over No. 1 Baylor.

Seriously, according to the Omaha paper, Greer got significant playing time yesterday because Creighton's big-name transfer, Owen Freeman, "struggled."

Big Ten freshman of the year at Iowa. You'd take him on MU in a heartbeat.

[Pakuni]

That would explain Craighton's decisive victory over No. 1 Baylor.

Seriously, according to the Omaha paper, Greer got significant playing time yesterday because Creighton's big-name transfer, Owen Freeman, "struggled."

Freeman is averaging 9.4 points and 4.8 boards while playing about 16 minutes per game, with an eFG% of 71.9.
MU could use those kinds of struggles in the post.

[CountryRoads]

Big Ten freshman of the year at Iowa. You'd take him on MU in a heartbeat.

Freeman visited here in 2021, so there was some chatter around whether or not we could land him when he hit the portal. Most scoffed at the idea due to his defensive deficiencies. We still have a ways to go on that end anyways, so would have liked to have him.

[The Sultan]

Big Ten freshman of the year at Iowa. You'd take him on MU in a heartbeat.

Uh...just take a look how he has done against high major competition so far this season. Big yikes.

[Uncle Rico]

Creighton got beat like dogs.

[The Sultan]

Freeman is averaging 9.4 points and 4.8 boards while playing about 16 minutes per game, with an eFG% of 71.9.
MU could use those kinds of struggles in the post.

In three games against high majors, he has played 15 mpg, averaging 4.0 pts and 4.0 boards on 60% shooting.

[Pakuni]

In three games against high majors, he has played 15 mpg, averaging 4.0 pts and 4.0 boards on 60% shooting.

He averaged 12.5/6.9 with a .639 eFG% in 29 Big 10 games the previous two seasons. Not too worried that he can't handle Big East play.
Are we debating whether MU could use Owen Freeman this year?

[MU82]

I'm not the one who said Freeman was struggling - it was the Omaha newspaper. Don't shoot the messenger.

Statistically, it looks like Freeman has been about as productive as Gold - minus Ben's defense. It also looks like Freeman's team has been about as successful as Gold's team, so I'm not sure Creighton should be held up as some paragon of operational perfection here.

That said, sure, if Shaka had wanted to open the bag to Freeman as a transfer, I'd have welcomed him to the team. I'm not surprised it didn't happen, though.

And the idea that Miletic and/or Sheek should burn his redshirt because a Creighton player did, as Billy suggested, is just silliness.

[The Sultan]

He averaged 12.5/6.9 with a .639 eFG% in 29 Big 10 games the previous two seasons. Not too worried that he can't handle Big East play.
Are we debating whether MU could use Owen Freeman this year?

Not debating anything other than I wouldn't take him at Marquette "in a heartbeat." He is a nice player, but not someone I would break my NIL back over.

[Pakuni]

I'm not the one who said Freeman was struggling - it was the Omaha newspaper. Don't shoot the messenger.

No shots were fired in your direction, 82.

[Billy Hoyle]

I'm not the one who said Freeman was struggling - it was the Omaha newspaper. Don't shoot the messenger.

Statistically, it looks like Freeman has been about as productive as Gold - minus Ben's defense. It also looks like Freeman's team has been about as successful as Gold's team, so I'm not sure Creighton should be held up as some paragon of operational perfection here.

That said, sure, if Shaka had wanted to open the bag to Freeman as a transfer, I'd have welcomed him to the team. I'm not surprised it didn't happen, though.

And the idea that Miletic and/or Sheek should burn his redshirt because a Creighton player did, as Billy suggested, is just silliness.

I have not suggested either, especially Sheek, burning his redshirt. In fact, I said I would be opposed to that based on the fact that he should still be in HS. I doubt the Creighton kid, Greer, would have been playing if McAndrew hadn't gotten injured.

As for Freeman, he had knee surgery during the summer, missing all of summer practices, and wasn't cleared to play until sometime in mid-October (he was unable to play in their scrimmage against ISU) so I'm not surprised he's struggling right now.

[MU82]

I have not suggested either, especially Sheek, burning his redshirt. In fact, I said I would be opposed to that based on the fact that he should still be in HS. I doubt the Creighton kid, Greer, would have been playing if McAndrew hadn't gotten injured.

As for Freeman, he had knee surgery during the summer, missing all of summer practices, and wasn't cleared to play until sometime in mid-October (he was unable to play in their scrimmage against ISU) so I'm not surprised he's struggling right now.

Sorry that I apparently misrepresented your stance on our redshirts.

Hopefully for Creighton, Freeman isn't limited all season by his previous injuries. He was a good offensive player for Iowa. It looks like Creighton desperately needs at least that from him this season, because they're hurting in NC play just about as badly as we are.

[Pakuni]

Creighton's nonconference losses have come to KenPom #3, #8 and #20, with the first on the road and the others on a neutral court. None of those are likely to kill them on Selection Sunday.

MU's losses are to KenPom #24, #63 and #69 (not nice), with the latter two at home.

[Uncle Rico]

Creighton's nonconference losses have come to KenPom #3, #8 and #20, with the first on the road and the others on a neutral court. None of those are likely to kill them on Selection Sunday.

MU's losses are to KenPom #24, #63 and #69 (not nice), with the latter two at home.

Counterpoint:

27-point loss, 7-point loss and 18-point loss.  Maybe, they aren't that good either.

[MU82]

Still early, but it's already looking like a 1 1/2-horse race in the Big East. We'll see soon enough how far back in the pack Creighton, Marquette and the rest are.

Not sure how anyone could watch today's beatdown by ISU - playing without its best player - and say Creighton looks like it will contend for anything. Especially if Freeman isn't what they expected him to be. They didn't belong in the same arena as Gonzaga, either. But again, it's early. Maybe Freeman will turn out to be a stud and Creighton will challenge UConn and St. John's.

[Pakuni]

Counterpoint:

27-point loss, 7-point loss and 18-point loss.  Maybe, they aren't that good either.

Maybe. Just pointing out the disparity in the level of competition.

[Uncle Rico]

Maybe. Just pointing out the disparity in the level of competition.

I don't think they're very good this year.  They have to beat Nebraska and Kansas State now and play well in conference.  They'll be an underdog against Nebraska.

Getting blown out by good teams doesn't help them in the selection process.

Them and Marquette both are in bad places right now with regards to dancing.

[Newsdreams]

Bad half for Wardle, hopefully we see good adjustments.

[Billy Hoyle]

Sorry that I apparently misrepresented your stance on our redshirts.

Hopefully for Creighton, Freeman isn't limited all season by his previous injuries. He was a good offensive player for Iowa. It looks like Creighton desperately needs at least that from him this season, because they're hurting in NC play just about as badly as we are.

Sheek is different since he wasn't supposed to come in until next year and should still be in high school. My complaint regarding Clark was that Shaka did not bring in someone who could have been a missing piece last year, and brought in a project that he knew could not contribute right after bringing in another project at the five who was not ready to contribute either, both when we only had 13 scholarships and uncertainty at the PG position too. 

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Bad half for Wardle, hopefully we see good adjustments.

Wardle's already got one foot out the door pointing toward Milwaukee.

[Uncle Rico]

Baylor has outrebounded St. John's by a dozen, including 20 offensive boards.

St. John's is shooting 57%, Baylor 34%.

[MU82]

Sheek is different since he wasn't supposed to come in until next year and should still be in high school. My complaint regarding Clark was that Shaka did not bring in someone who could have been a missing piece last year, and brought in a project that he knew could not contribute right after bringing in another project at the five who was not ready to contribute either, both when we only had 13 scholarships and uncertainty at the PG position too. 

Amadou obviously was a bad miss, and jury's still out on Hamilton. In a vacuum, I like the flier on Clark because 7-footers who are decent athletes are pretty hard to find. But I do get what you're saying, Billy. Sometimes things get lost in the translation in these Scoop back-and-forths.

[Viper]

Uh...just take a look how he has done against high major competition so far this season. Big yikes.

he played high major competition last year and was damn good as named Big freshman of the year. Maybe there's an adjustment period this year? Maybe, as it turns out,  he should have remained at Iowa? Regardless, I'd roll the dice with him over a stiff like Hamilton.

[The Sultan]

he played high major competition last year and was damn good as named Big freshman of the year. Maybe there's an adjustment period this year? Maybe, as it turns out,  he should have remained at Iowa? Regardless, I'd roll the dice with him over a stiff like Hamilton.

He was not Big Ten freshman of the year last year.