War with Venezuela

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Three good friends from MU were visiting students from U of Laval in Quebec. My closest friend, who I have visited in Quebec multiple times since our days in Mashuda, supports Quebec independence (but realizes it will never happen). For his bachelor party in Quebec City, his buddies made him wear a Team Canada jersey and hand out Canadian flags to people and say he supported a united Canada forever before they'd buy him drinks. It was amusing to say the least!

QC is very different from Montreal when it comes to how non-French speakers are treated. In Montreal I could go into a shop or bar and if I used French to ask if they spoke English there was no problem. In QC, forget it, without my friends with me, I was screwed (though things have changed up there since my first visit, but it's still tough if one does not speak any French).

My last time in Montreal I was speaking French and the waitress only spoke English or Spanish.

[Billy Hoyle]

I'm treated like royalty in Quebec and even my French is appreciated because of my last name.  My family ancestors saved the Quebec colony in 1634 with The Percheron Immigration at the behest of Champlain himself.  (I'm not making this up.)  I traced my ancestors to mid-1400's France.  My grandfather and extended family immigrated to the USA in the 1930's after the family's trading post burnt down in Quebec near the border.  There was no home insurance back then.  The first words I usually hear when crossing into Quebec at the border or in the hotel are "Bienvenue chez vous, Monsieur...."

This may be the wrong time to mention that my family was part of a Canadian militia that successfully fought to separate a part of English speaking Ontario (then known as Lower Canada) from Quebec, creating the modern borders of Ontario.

[JWags85]

QC is very different from Montreal when it comes to how non-French speakers are treated. In Montreal I could go into a shop or bar and if I used French to ask if they spoke English there was no problem. In QC, forget it, without my friends with me, I was screwed (though things have changed up there since my first visit, but it's still tough if one does not speak any French).

Totally.  Ive not been since the early 2000s, but from a few friends who have been there, they say its still like visiting small French city as opposed to Paris in terms of needing French to navigate.

That's part of the reason that the Nordiques struggled/ended up moving.  Non-French Canadian players didn't love playing there and it was hard to market with everything being Francophone (in addition to being a tiny market).  Whereas Montreal is very French but not even remotely as difficult to navigate/handle as a non French speaker.

[Billy Hoyle]

Totally.  Ive not been since the early 2000s, but from a few friends who have been there, they say its still like visiting small French city as opposed to Paris in terms of needing French to navigate.

That's part of the reason that the Nordiques struggled/ended up moving.  Non-French Canadian players didn't love playing there and it was hard to market with everything being Francophone (in addition to being a tiny market).  Whereas Montreal is very French but not even remotely as difficult to navigate/handle as a non French speaker.

Montreal is an international and cosmopolitan city

Totally.  Ive not been since the early 2000s, but from a few friends who have been there, they say its still like visiting small French city as opposed to Paris in terms of needing French to navigate.

That's part of the reason that the Nordiques struggled/ended up moving.  Non-French Canadian players didn't love playing there and it was hard to market with everything being Francophone (in addition to being a tiny market).  Whereas Montreal is very French but not even remotely as difficult to navigate/handle as a non French speaker.

It's amazing to think how close Quebec came to independence in the 1995 referendum - 1% or 54000 votes was the difference with nearly 94% turnout. President Clinton even got involved supporing the "no" side and areas of Montreal voted overwhelmingly "no" providing the difference.

The Premier of Quebec and the "yes" campaign blamed money and "the ethic vote" for the loss. Hmmm, where have we heard that before?

[Billy Hoyle]

It's not a coincidence that Trump informed the oil companies before he informed Congress. MAGAts got the dictatorship they wanted.

Thank God someone is thinking of the oil companies!

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/energy/trump-venezuela-oil-companies-reimburse-rcna252434

[MU82]

I'm treated like royalty in Quebec and even my French is appreciated because of my last name.  My family ancestors saved the Quebec colony in 1634 with The Percheron Immigration at the behest of Champlain himself.  (I'm not making this up.)  I traced my ancestors to mid-1400's France.  My grandfather and extended family immigrated to the USA in the 1930's after the family's trading post burnt down in Quebec near the border.  There was no home insurance back then.  The first words I usually hear when crossing into Quebec at the border or in the hotel are "Bienvenue chez vous, Monsieur...."

Who knew that "Connecticut" is a French name?

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Who knew that "Connecticut" is a French name?

Ouais!

[TSmith34, Inc.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vmzAJvXtWA

Ah yes, overnight you right wingers have suddenly become pro-war and pro-regime change. Amazingly predictable.

Well, ok then: when do we invade Russia? North Korea? Turkey? Hungary? China???

[MU82]

Yup.

Against! Against! Against! Against! Against! Oh wait ... he's doing it? For!

[tower912]

Prayers for all to find the peace of Jesus in their hearts. 

Would Jesus invade Venezuela?

[rocky_warrior]

Prayers for all to find the peace of Jesus in their hearts. 

Would Jesus invade Venezuela?

Just what this thread needs, a good dose of religion to distract from politics 

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Prayers for all to find the peace of Jesus in their hearts. 

Would Jesus invade Venezuela?

Certain versions of him, hell yes.

[tower912]

Just what this thread needs, a good dose of religion to distract from politics 

Self edited.  The original post was a bridge too far for this board.   Can't go wrong with Jesus.

[NCMUFan]

Prayers for all to find the peace of Jesus in their hearts. 

Would Jesus invade Venezuela?

Matthew 28:18

[tower912]

Matthew 28:18

Exactly.  But there is no way this is what Jesus would have commanded.   This is the opposite of Godly.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Matthew 28:18

We've kidnapped another nation's leader, and been explicit we're there to take their oil...so that we can impose Christianity on them?? A nation that is already ~90% Christian? Or is Trump Jesus in this case??

Are we restarting the Crusades, but with 100% more oil?

So confused.

[NCMUFan]

Read and study your Bible, it helps tremendously.

[tower912]

Read your Bible, it helps tremendously.

It certainly has for me.

[Pakuni]

Matthew 28:18

At least 55 people were killed during the raid to capture Maduro.
As Jesus would have wanted.

[NCMUFan]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/K58LMYpyEVI

[tower912]

Since this is going to eventually get shut down anyway...


For me, January 6 was certainly an Epiphany.

[GB Warrior]

At least 55 people were killed during the raid to capture Maduro.
As Jesus would have wanted.

Most casualties at a theatrical performance since the filming of Rust

[MU82]

Pay no attention to the Epstein files. Wag the dog, baby!

[Shaka Shart]

Honestly, if Trump had said he was going to make Quebec the 51st state, instead of Canada as a whole, most of Canada would have probably said "you know what, sure!  Have fun with that.

My favorite Quebec anecdote is from my wife's best friend.  Total Francophile, took French classes at an immersion school (in addition to her normal public school) since her early teens, studied abroad in Lyon for a year in college, and then while working for L'Oreal, lived in Paris for almost 5 years.  So she not only spoke French to navigate daily life, she spoke it professionally.  She had the fluency of a native speaker by that point.  A year or two after moving back to NYC, she and her now husband took a trip to Quebec City.  Obviously French and Quebecois French differ a bit, but she still assumed it would be some sort of comfort navigating it.  NON NON NON!

She said 2 different shopkeepers got annoyed with her accent and "prononce mal" to the point of being frustrated and rude and the concierge at the hotel at one point said "ma'am it may be better if we just spoke English, no?"  She was so taken aback yet her husband found it hilarious given how Parisians react to anyone speaking French with a foreign accent.

I learned some French phrases and couldn't understand a single thing my boss said to test me, he was from rural Quebec

[Shaka Shart]

This may be the wrong time to mention that my family was part of a Canadian militia that successfully fought to separate a part of English speaking Ontario (then known as Lower Canada) from Quebec, creating the modern borders of Ontario.

Did your family have a five point plan