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TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: MU82 on September 30, 2025, 09:12:21 AM

I don't see a lot of difference in the bottom two options.

Also, I guess 19% answered "I don't know".
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

forgetful

Reports coming out about Trump's 20-point plan highlight the entire history of negotiations for peace.

Trump met with Arab leaders and came up with a plan they would all agree on and that they would push Hamas to accept.

Trump then presented it to Bibi, and promptly removed almost all the things that Arab leaders said they required in a deal, added elements the Arab leaders would not be supportive on that Bibi wanted in the deal, and then announced everyone had agreed to the deal and Hamas must sign.

Except, the deal was not agreed to by everyone, all the elements one side wanted (and very reasonable elements) were removed as concessions to Bibi, who really doesn't want peace. This same process has been repeated several times, where "deals" were agreed to, only for the requirements/conditions to change coming from Bibi.

In the meantime, innocent women and children continue to die and it seems like no one cares.

cheebs09

Quote from: forgetful on October 03, 2025, 01:28:38 PMReports coming out about Trump's 20-point plan highlight the entire history of negotiations for peace.

Trump met with Arab leaders and came up with a plan they would all agree on and that they would push Hamas to accept.

Trump then presented it to Bibi, and promptly removed almost all the things that Arab leaders said they required in a deal, added elements the Arab leaders would not be supportive on that Bibi wanted in the deal, and then announced everyone had agreed to the deal and Hamas must sign.

Except, the deal was not agreed to by everyone, all the elements one side wanted (and very reasonable elements) were removed as concessions to Bibi, who really doesn't want peace. This same process has been repeated several times, where "deals" were agreed to, only for the requirements/conditions to change coming from Bibi.

In the meantime, innocent women and children continue to die and it seems like no one cares.

Another war solved.

The Sultan

Trump's 20 point plan was destined to fail - 15 points too many.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Hards Alumni

Quote from: forgetful on October 03, 2025, 01:28:38 PMReports coming out about Trump's 20-point plan highlight the entire history of negotiations for peace.

Trump met with Arab leaders and came up with a plan they would all agree on and that they would push Hamas to accept.

Trump then presented it to Bibi, and promptly removed almost all the things that Arab leaders said they required in a deal, added elements the Arab leaders would not be supportive on that Bibi wanted in the deal, and then announced everyone had agreed to the deal and Hamas must sign.

Except, the deal was not agreed to by everyone, all the elements one side wanted (and very reasonable elements) were removed as concessions to Bibi, who really doesn't want peace. This same process has been repeated several times, where "deals" were agreed to, only for the requirements/conditions to change coming from Bibi.

In the meantime, innocent women and children continue to die and it seems like no one cares.

Yep, this the reoccurring script for the last 9 months.  It's just pantomime.  Until all of Europe really digs in its heels nothing will change in Gaza.

Shaka Shart

At least Israel was distracted with the aid flotilla so the people in Gaza were able to go fishing and get some food without getting air struck
#BanGBWarrior

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