2025 NFL draft

[cheebs09]

Adam Scheftner said the Eagles have 20 picks in the next two rounds.  Really?

That's accurate now.

[GB Warrior]

Didn't hate the Golden pick. Really wanted Harmon or Ebuka... was surprised to see Bucs go WR, but wasn't even remotely surprised Harmon was a Steelers type.

Golden is small, so will be an interesting evolution in that receiver room with 2 smalls that will be out there almost every snap. Not as impactful with all of the inside zone they started running last year, but I wonder if we see more 12 personnel going forward to offset.

[Uncle Rico]

Didn't hate the Golden pick. Really wanted Harmon or Ebuka... was surprised to see Bucs go WR, but wasn't even remotely surprised Harmon was a Steelers type.

Golden is small, so will be an interesting evolution in that receiver room with 2 smalls that will be out there almost every snap. Not as impactful with all of the inside zone they started running last year, but I wonder if we see more 12 personnel going forward to offset.

After sleeping on it, I think it's a bad pick but will be happy to be wrong.  Feels like he's a lot like what they already have but with elite speed.  Do like his hands and ability to get the football, not something their guys outside Doubs show much skill at.  Boom/bust pick

[WhiteTrash]

After sleeping on it, I think it's a bad pick but will be happy to be wrong.  Feels like he's a lot like what they already have but with elite speed.  Do like his hands and ability to get the football, not something their guys outside Doubs show much skill at.  Boom/bust pick

I think the takeaway is that the Packers and Bears did fine in a bad draft. Maybe the top 9 picks were good, but a whole lot of second day talent was taken in the first round.

[GB Warrior]

After sleeping on it, I think it's a bad pick but will be happy to be wrong.  Feels like he's a lot like what they already have but with elite speed.  Do like his hands and ability to get the football, not something their guys outside Doubs show much skill at.  Boom/bust pick

I think having the route running (Wicks), speed (Watson), hands (Doubs) in one package is a boon but it probably means they're not done adding for the future. You can't have two 5'11" guys dominating the field in a power run offense. At some point you need an aircraft carrier on a pogo stick with a great neck.

[MUBurrow]

After sleeping on it, I think it's a bad pick but will be happy to be wrong.  Feels like he's a lot like what they already have but with elite speed.  Do like his hands and ability to get the football, not something their guys outside Doubs show much skill at.  Boom/bust pick

Yeah, I think its as much a cost-controlling move than particularly additive.  Which I don't necessarily hate, even in the first round, because its at a highly paid position.  Better to use a late first on Golden who can perform at a high level than be stuck having to overpay multiple of the current guys on a second contract.

[StillAWarrior]

And is Mel Kiper getting paid to promote Sanders?

That was embarrassing. It's OK to admit you were wrong on this one, Mel. Hell, I'd think you're used to it by now.

[RJax55]

That was embarrassing. It's OK to admit you were wrong on this one, Mel. Hell, I'd think you're used to it by now.

Mel's role is to drive conversation and create narratives. Honestly, no different than a pro wrestling announcer.

[GB Warrior]

That was embarrassing. It's OK to admit you were wrong on this one, Mel. Hell, I'd think you're used to it by now.

For those of us who were there, was the coverage really bad?

[jesmu84]

Slight reach, projected 2nd TE between 15-20.

Nobody graded him well at blocking. He's a hybrid TE/WR.

"nobody"


https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/article/2025-nfl-draft-is-tyler-warren-or-colston-loveland-te1-breaking-down-2-fun-prospects-at-a-challenging-position-191024073.html

https://x.com/BenjaminSolak/status/1915755423400968316?t=4dxTTaCuXzneisVsTmWRzg&s=19

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[RJax55]

For those of us who were there, was the coverage really bad?

I found it no different than prior years.

That said (as others mentioned above), all the segments the NFL is adding prior to the pick announcements is getting a bit much. The worst of the bunch (by far and one of worst live TV segments I've seen in some time) was the campy schedule announcement. Really bad. But, that's not an ESPN thing.
 

[Billy Hoyle]

I think the takeaway is that the Packers and Bears did fine in a bad draft. Maybe the top 9 picks were good, but a whole lot of second day talent was taken in the first round.

seemed to be more drafting for need and depth as the first round went on than best available. The Lions pick wasn't expected (everyone had them going Edge) but with McNeil out most of the season this dude will fill the hole until he gets back and will take (hopefully) over for Reader when his deal is up. It also signals the Broderic Martin experiment is likely over.

[jesmu84]

https://youtu.be/2Kdb2b0em-I?si=5lnkzOkdEiZFfgUO

[GB Warrior]

seemed to be more drafting for need and depth as the first round went on than best available. The Lions pick wasn't expected (everyone had them going Edge) but with McNeil out most of the season this dude will fill the hole until he gets back and will take (hopefully) over for Reader when his deal is up. It also signals the Broderic Martin experiment is likely over.

Man, I liked the Lions pick but I'm glad that Harmon didn't fall to them. That's a beefy line once all are healthy.

[Jockey]

After sleeping on it, I think it's a bad pick but will be happy to be wrong.  Feels like he's a lot like what they already have but with elite speed.  Do like his hands and ability to get the football, not something their guys outside Doubs show much skill at.  Boom/bust pick

I disagree based on the cycle of where the WRs are concerning contract extensions.

To me, one of the new NFL realities with WR contracts approaching $35-$40 mil a year is that you need to draft a WR in the 1st 2 rounds at least every other year. The last thing any team should want is a situation that the Bengals found themselves in.

[tower912]

Detroit signed all of their DL depth pieces to one year deals and DJ Reader's deal is up after this season.  Alim McNeill just got his DT running mate for the foreseeable future.  Once he returns from his knee injury.  I think Detroit moves Paschal or Onwuzurike outside opposite Hutchinson.

[WhiteTrash]

"nobody"


https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/article/2025-nfl-draft-is-tyler-warren-or-colston-loveland-te1-breaking-down-2-fun-prospects-at-a-challenging-position-191024073.html

https://x.com/BenjaminSolak/status/1915755423400968316?t=4dxTTaCuXzneisVsTmWRzg&s=19

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So, Loveland is a better blocker than Warren. Not sure that's a ringing endorsement.
  "After studying Warren, I came out with more questions about his blocking ability than answers."
  "I would even dare to say that there isn't any projection needed of Loveland being a better blocker than Warren; I think he is already at that level and I would give him the overall edge."

I did see someone compliment him on his great effort in blocking, but not calling him above average.

I concede Loveland is a fine prospect considering this draft. He was taken earlier than expected but in the same zip code as projected.

I think the Bears are fooling themselves if they view TE as a need. I could not find (with minimal effort) any draft analysis that listed TE as an area of need for the Bears.    I am skeptical that a team can be successful with poor O & D lines, but the Bears seem dead set on building from the outside in.

[MU82]

Didn't hate the Golden pick. Really wanted Harmon or Ebuka... was surprised to see Bucs go WR, but wasn't even remotely surprised Harmon was a Steelers type.

Golden is small, so will be an interesting evolution in that receiver room with 2 smalls that will be out there almost every snap. Not as impactful with all of the inside zone they started running last year, but I wonder if we see more 12 personnel going forward to offset.

Golden is the same height as Ja'Marr Chase, is only a few pounds lighter, and has a similar skill set. I think the Packers getting him where they did was quite fortunate.

I can't speak to whether or not GB needed another WR because I don't follow the Packers closely. But I think Golden will be a better pro WR than the guy the Panthers drafted at #8. Had the Seahawks not selected an OL whom everyone says will be a stud, I would have wanted them to take Golden.

[wadesworld]

Christian Watson's dad and brother didn't love the pick.  Their son has been so reliable for the Packers that I can understand where they're coming from.

[cheebs09]

Christian Watson's dad and brother didn't love the pick.  Their son has been so reliable for the Packers that I can understand where they're coming from.

I think I'm liking the pick even more.

[Hards Alumni]

Christian Watson's dad and brother didn't love the pick.  Their son has been so reliable for the Packers that I can understand where they're coming from.

Yeah, Watson's dad just needs to have his phone taken away from him.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Bears doing Bears'crap.

I guess they are just one good TE away from being a 6 win team.

Poor take.

[Jockey]

So, Loveland is a better blocker than Warren. Not sure that's a ringing endorsement.
  "After studying Warren, I came out with more questions about his blocking ability than answers."
  "I would even dare to say that there isn't any projection needed of Loveland being a better blocker than Warren; I think he is already at that level and I would give him the overall edge."

I did see someone compliment him on his great effort in blocking, but not calling him above average.

I concede Loveland is a fine prospect considering this draft. He was taken earlier than expected but in the same zip code as projected.

I think the Bears are fooling themselves if they view TE as a need. I could not find (with minimal effort) any draft analysis that listed TE as an area of need for the Bears.    I am skeptical that a team can be successful with poor O & D lines, but the Bears seem dead set on building from the outside in.

I think TE was definitely a need. Kmart has never been a game changer or even mildly above average.

[Pakuni]

"nobody"


https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/article/2025-nfl-draft-is-tyler-warren-or-colston-loveland-te1-breaking-down-2-fun-prospects-at-a-challenging-position-191024073.html

https://x.com/BenjaminSolak/status/1915755423400968316?t=4dxTTaCuXzneisVsTmWRzg&s=19

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No dog in the Colston Loveland fight, but Ben Solak ... lol.

https://x.com/BenjaminSolak/status/1769167262689235263

[GB Warrior]

Yeah, Watson's dad just needs to have his phone taken away from him.

I heard his dad wanted Christian to be the starting point guard quarterback