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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: JWags85 on May 07, 2025, 10:08:22 PMBest of the mediocre options.  Utah Hockey Club would have been beyond lame.  Utah Wasatch was one of the worst name options I ever heard, and then replacing it with Utah Outlaws was just generic.  Colorado Mammoth are already a lacrosse team in Denver, so its not as totally unique, but its a good logo and the color scheme is cool with it.

Was personally hoping for Utah Yetis, that would have been dope.  Nonetheless, better than the Vegas Golden Knights, not as good as the Seattle Kraken.

That was the route they were going to take, but the US Patent and Trademark Office denied their application. Apparently, people would confuse a hockey team with Yeti coolers and the company refused to consider a co-existance agreement.

I was wondering why not the plural (or if "Mammoth" was the plural like "Moose"), but the teams said they chose "Mammoth" rather than "Mammoths" because "it symbolizes one team, all-in and all of Utah." The logo and colors are excellent. 

I still wish Seattle had gone with the Sockeyes instead of Kraken.
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MuggsyB

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 08, 2025, 08:20:02 AMThat was the route they were going to take, but the US Patent and Trademark Office denied their application. Apparently, people would confuse a hockey team with Yeti coolers and the company refused to consider a co-existance agreement.

I was wondering why not the plural (or if "Mammoth" was the plural like "Moose"), but the teams said they chose "Mammoth" rather than "Mammoths" because "it symbolizes one team, all-in and all of Utah." The logo and colors are excellent. 

I still wish Seattle had gone with the Sockeyes instead of Kraken.

I don't know if a Mammoth could skate, but they would be better than Hasek as goalies. 

 🦣

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 08, 2025, 08:20:02 AMThat was the route they were going to take, but the US Patent and Trademark Office denied their application. Apparently, people would confuse a hockey team with Yeti coolers and the company refused to consider a co-existance agreement.

I was wondering why not the plural (or if "Mammoth" was the plural like "Moose"), but the teams said they chose "Mammoth" rather than "Mammoths" because "it symbolizes one team, all-in and all of Utah." The logo and colors are excellent. 

I still wish Seattle had gone with the Sockeyes instead of Kraken.

That's ridiculous, Yeti doesn't have a monopoly on the word Yeti, which doesn't even originate in the US.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 08, 2025, 08:37:28 AMThat's ridiculous, Yeti doesn't have a monopoly on the word Yeti, which doesn't even originate in the US.

fully agree, but the trademark they have is particularly strong when it comes to the simple use of "Yeti." Apparently, the biggest issue was on apparel, as Yeti had already applied to sell gear with "Yeti" on it.

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-hockey-club/2025/01/29/yetis-is-officially-not-an-option/#:~:text=The%20trademark%20application%20for%20%E2%80%9CUtah,that%20already%20owns%20the%20trademark.
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Hards Alumni

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 08, 2025, 08:56:27 AMfully agree, but the trademark they have is particularly strong when it comes to the simple use of "Yeti." Apparently, the biggest issue was on apparel, as Yeti had already applied to sell gear with "Yeti" on it.

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-hockey-club/2025/01/29/yetis-is-officially-not-an-option/#:~:text=The%20trademark%20application%20for%20%E2%80%9CUtah,that%20already%20owns%20the%20trademark.

NHL team could have won the case if they chose to, but decided the juice wasn't worth the squeeze and just went with Mammoths.

Pakuni

Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 08, 2025, 11:21:26 AMNHL team could have won the case if they chose to, but decided the juice wasn't worth the squeeze and just went with Mammoths.

I don't know that they could have won - appellate judges tend to give the regulatory agency lots of discretion - but even if they could have, the appeals process takes on average 15 months. Not sure the team really wanted to go another year-plus without a name on outside chance they win the appeal. The more likely outcome would be they lose - because most appeals fail - and they're back where they started.

MU82

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 08, 2025, 08:20:02 AMI still wish Seattle had gone with the Sockeyes instead of Kraken.

My choice was Seattle Starpucks.
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Billy Hoyle

#32
Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 08, 2025, 11:21:26 AMNHL team could have won the case if they chose to, but decided the juice wasn't worth the squeeze and just went with Mammoths.

I do like how they involved the fans who attended UHC games in the selection of the nickname.

https://x.com/StanfordSteve82/status/1920572716584734731
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MU82

Florida's winning goal went in off of a Toronto defenseman's hip. It was one of at least 4 goals in the game to go in off of an opposing player.

I've been asked why there are so many more playoff upsets in the NHL than in the NBA. It's because so much luck comes into play in hockey.

I'm confident in saying that in the history of the NBA, there never has been a game-winning basket that went off of an opponent's hip.
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JWags85

Quote from: MU82 on May 09, 2025, 10:33:10 PMFlorida's winning goal went in off of a Toronto defenseman's hip. It was one of at least 4 goals in the game to go in off of an opposing player.

I've been asked why there are so many more playoff upsets in the NHL than in the NBA. It's because so much luck comes into play in hockey.

I'm confident in saying that in the history of the NBA, there never has been a game-winning basket that went off of an opponent's hip.

Its one of the cruelest aspects of hockey.  My alma mater, Miami, lost in the NCAA Championship about a decade ago in OT.  The game tying goal with less than 30 seconds left deflected off a defender's skate and in off the post.  The game winner in OT bounced off another attacker's thigh and literally BLOOPED up and over the shoulder of the goalie.  No more cruel way to lose than watch a puck flutter in the air but everyone's momentum renders them useless to knock it down and the goalie moving down into a crouch watches it float over his shoulder.  Just gross...but exhilarating if it goes your way.  That's why you're coached from a young age to just get pucks on net no matter how you do it.

MU82

Edmonton lost to LA on a goal with 0.4 seconds left in the game.

4/10ths of a freakin' second!

There goes LeBron, getting another favorable call.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on May 11, 2025, 11:02:28 AMEdmonton lost to LA on a goal with 0.4 seconds left in the game.

4/10ths of a freakin' second!

There goes LeBron, getting another favorable call.

Good.  Canada is a threat to our sovereignty 
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MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 11, 2025, 12:30:42 PMGood.  Canada is a threat to our sovereignty 

I thought it was beyond the pale that Carney signed an executive order to rename Montana "South Saskatchewan."
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MU82

Here was an "X" exchange Sunday between Florida Panthers vice chairman Doug Cifu and a Maple Leafs fan who calls himself Dr. Grizzo - one that led to Cifu getting suspended by the NHL:

(From espn.com)

Grizzo's original post: "Hey, what's worse, using headshots to win a series or using starvation as a weapon to win a war?"

Cifu response: "Actually being a whiny dope anti-semite is clearly worse. Loser."

Grizzo: "Not approving of using starvation as a weapon makes me a bigot?" He then added comments about Cifu's stock market prowess and political leanings.


Cifu: "Eat sh!t 51st state anti-semite loser. Israel now and forever. Until ever last Hamas rat is eliminated."

Fun!
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MuggsyB

Yikes.  Toronto with a rough start tonight. 

MuggsyB

Wow.  Toronto completely crapping the bed.  I would imagine the fans there are not happy. 

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 14, 2025, 07:40:29 PMWow.  Toronto completely crapping the bed.  I would imagine the fans there are not happy. 

Good.  Canada is our mortal enemy
Guster is for Lovers

MuggsyB

Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2025, 07:42:46 PMGood.  Canada is our mortal enemy

I think Edmonton wins it. 

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 14, 2025, 07:47:26 PMI think Edmonton wins it. 

That would be awful and a slap in the face to the troops
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MuggsyB

Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2025, 08:29:28 PMThat would be awful and a slap in the face to the troops

Well we better be prepared because I think it's their year. 

Billy Hoyle

#45
Quote from: MuggsyB on May 14, 2025, 07:40:29 PMWow.  Toronto completely crapping the bed. I would imagine the fans there are not happy. 

they haven't been happy since 1967, which was their last time even making the Stanley Cup Finals.

Other than Winnipeg, every other Canadian franchise has made the finals at least once since 2004.
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MU82

Alex Ovechkin's "legacy" is already secure, but he managed only 1 goal (on a 5-on-3 power play) in the entire series as Washington lost to Carolina in 5.
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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: MU82 on May 16, 2025, 11:23:30 AMAlex Ovechkin's "legacy" is already secure, but he managed only 1 goal (on a 5-on-3 power play) in the entire series as Washington lost to Carolina in 5.

Washington only scored 7 goals in five games, one an empty netter in Game 2. Carolina's D and Andersen in goal shut down the entire Caps team.
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MU82

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 16, 2025, 11:31:16 AMWashington only scored 7 goals in five games, one an empty netter in Game 2. Carolina's D and Andersen in goal shut down the entire Caps team.

I still root for Carolina so I watched most of the games, and you're right - the Canes' defense was stifling. Hope they can keep it going for two more rounds!
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Billy Hoyle

#49
Quote from: MU82 on May 16, 2025, 12:07:20 PMI still root for Carolina so I watched most of the games, and you're right - the Canes' defense was stifling. Hope they can keep it going for two more rounds!

If they play the Panthers, then yes, go Canes. But, if it's Toronto, sorry, I want a Canadian team to make the finals and win it (and an all-Canada finals would be awesome) because of how it will trigger you know who!  ;D  ;D

The way the Canes play D reminds me of the mid-to-late-90s Devils and their neutral zone trap and Red Wings and the "left wing lock."
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