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Jockey

Quote from: MU82 on June 17, 2025, 02:30:55 PMOf the 1,035 games Devers has started in his career, only 93 - mostly this season - have been at DH. He has started 942 games at 3B. As a 3B who hits the way he has, he certainly is not overpaid.

Now, if the Giants have no plans to play him at 3B, then I guess one could argue that he's an overpaid DH. But that's kind of on them, no?

Operating like a small-market team as they've gone from perennial contender to willing also-ran. The biggest surprise was them paying up for Bregman this past offseason, but that signing makes little sense if they're not gonna have enough other pieces to contend for anything.

If he plays 3rd, it will only be for a couple weeks. Since he refused to play 1st for the Sox, I would imagine he won't be there either.

So for a top 2 or 3 3rd basemen, he wasn't overpaid. As a top 2 or 3 DH, he probably is.

MU82

Quote from: Jockey on June 17, 2025, 05:21:31 PMIf he plays 3rd, it will only be for a couple weeks. Since he refused to play 1st for the Sox, I would imagine he won't be there either.

So for a top 2 or 3 3rd basemen, he wasn't overpaid. As a top 2 or 3 DH, he probably is.

That could all be true - though what is an athlete "worth," anyway? If so, it would all be on SF.
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Uncle Rico

Go Dodgers, imo
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tower912

Fans get ejected at the Pirates/Tigers game for getting into it with Pham.  No one is repeating what was said.  I am going to speculate that 10 hours of filling up with liquid courage during the doubleheader and rain delays may have contributed.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

GB Warrior

Quote from: tower912 on June 20, 2025, 05:51:17 AMFans get ejected at the Pirates/Tigers game for getting into it with Pham.  No one is repeating what was said.  I am going to speculate that 10 hours of filling up with liquid courage during the doubleheader and rain delays may have contributed.

It's a problem that Tommy Pham had 10 hours of liquid courage but it would explain a lot about his stat lines.

18thandWells

Long day
Quote from: GB Warrior on June 20, 2025, 09:58:44 AMIt's a problem that Tommy Pham had 10 hours of liquid courage but it would explain a lot about his stat lines.
Long day in Detroit yesterday.

https://www.reddit.com/r/mlb/comments/1lftowd/pittsburgh_pirates_relief_pitcher_dennis_santana/

JWags85

Quote from: tower912 on June 20, 2025, 05:51:17 AMFans get ejected at the Pirates/Tigers game for getting into it with Pham.  No one is repeating what was said.  I am going to speculate that 10 hours of filling up with liquid courage during the doubleheader and rain delays may have contributed.

Pretty sure it was fantasy football related

MU82

Padres and Dodgers get in a beanball war.

I guess, similar to the WNBA skirmishes, that's good for baseball ... until Ohtani gets hurt.
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Jockey

If you throw at Tatis, expect retaliation.

wadesworld

Former coworker is the only reason Miz will have given up a hit in his career. He texted me going into the bottom of the 7th and he promptly gave up a walk and homer.

11 innings of zero hits to start his career was decent though.

Jockey

Quote from: wadesworld on June 20, 2025, 09:26:09 PMFormer coworker is the only reason Miz will have given up a hit in his career. He texted me going into the bottom of the 7th and he promptly gave up a walk and homer.

11 innings of zero hits to start his career was decent though.

If he has even decent command, he will be a monster.

Sorry. I probably jinxed his next start.

JWags85

Quote from: wadesworld on June 20, 2025, 09:26:09 PMFormer coworker is the only reason Miz will have given up a hit in his career. He texted me going into the bottom of the 7th and he promptly gave up a walk and homer.

11 innings of zero hits to start his career was decent though.

Probably should email HR at his job and let them know his off the clock behavior should affect his employment

MU82

Cal Raleigh ... what a season he's having!
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: wadesworld on June 20, 2025, 09:26:09 PMFormer coworker is the only reason Miz will have given up a hit in his career. He texted me going into the bottom of the 7th and he promptly gave up a walk and homer.

11 innings of zero hits to start his career was decent though.

He killed a man.
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cheebs09

I'm not sure how to react to the Brewers becoming a hub of developing pitching talent. It seemed so foreign until Stearns and team came into place.

Jockey

Misiorowski is the only big leaguer since 1900 to have more wins (2) than hits allowed (1) in his first two career starts, according to OptaSTATS

GB Warrior

Quote from: cheebs09 on June 21, 2025, 07:58:27 AMI'm not sure how to react to the Brewers becoming a hub of developing pitching talent. It seemed so foreign until Stearns and team came into place.

A refreshing update from the Garzas, Suppans and Lohses of the world

BM1090

Quote from: GB Warrior on June 21, 2025, 12:57:38 PMA refreshing update from the Garzas, Suppans and Lohses of the world

If Gasser and Henderson turn out and stay healthy, things could get real fun.

MU82

For those who know such things ...

Do fielding analytics account for Crow-Armstrong misplaying multiple wind-blown flyballs today even though he wasn't charged for any errors?
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Jockey

#296
Quote from: MU82 on June 21, 2025, 06:23:49 PMFor those who know such things ...

Do fielding analytics account for Crow-Armstrong misplaying multiple wind-blown flyballs today even though he wasn't charged for any errors?

Yes to an extant since the development of Statcast.

Since wind can alter a fielder's ability to make a play, Wind Applied Metrics can factor this into fielding metrics.

MU82

Bad timing: Seattle's Cal Raleigh signed a 6-year, $105 million extension before this season - which could end up being the greatest offensive year a catcher has ever had.

Oh well. Nobody's gonna organize a telethon on his behalf.
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GB Warrior

Quote from: MU82 on June 23, 2025, 12:04:49 PMBad timing: Seattle's Cal Raleigh signed a 6-year, $105 million extension before this season - which could end up being the greatest offensive year a catcher has ever had.

Oh well. Nobody's gonna organize a telethon on his behalf.

Bird in the hand. Teams exercise so much control that sometimes you take the first big deal you can get. Lots of things can happen in between the start of their control and the end.

Besides, this tore up all 3 arb years and put him in the top 5 at the position. He's not hurting and he avoided the downside risk.

MU82

Quote from: GB Warrior on June 23, 2025, 12:44:18 PMBird in the hand. Teams exercise so much control that sometimes you take the first big deal you can get. Lots of things can happen in between the start of their control and the end.

Besides, this tore up all 3 arb years and put him in the top 5 at the position. He's not hurting and he avoided the downside risk.

Oh, I understand the rationale behind the deal for both sides. Just saying that if Raleigh happened to have waited until after this season, he'd have cashed in really big - not for the "pitiful" $105M!
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