A Well Managed Decline

[MDMU04]

This is the sort of visionary thinking that keeps me coming back to scoop.

[DoctorV]

I read this as "A Well Mangled Decline"

I like that better

[HutchwasClutch]

I agree! bringing in 4 top 100 recruits after bringing in 2 top 100 recruits? This is an unmitigated disaster!

Do any recruiting services have Miletic or Phillips in the top 100?  The rankings I've seen have them well outside.

And if I remember correctly, only Stevens is top 100 in composite rankings. 

[Hards Alumni]

Do any recruiting services have Miletic or Phillips in the top 100?  The rankings I've seen have them well outside.

And if I remember correctly, only Stevens is top 100 in composite rankings. 

https://247sports.com/college/marquette/season/2025-basketball/commits/

Literally took two seconds to google this, two more to click the link, and then two more to copy and paste.

[HutchwasClutch]

https://247sports.com/college/marquette/season/2025-basketball/commits/

Literally took two seconds to google this, two more to click the link, and then two more to copy and paste.

This has Phillips and Miletic at 102 and 106, which is much higher than what I remember seeing, yet still not top 100.

James listed 83, but that's not the consensus.  I've seen 112 and 121 for his ranking. 

[JTJ3]

Phillips is top 50 on On3

[HutchwasClutch]

Phillips is top 50 on On3

That was in July unless you have something recent.

https://www.on3.com/news/why-on3-is-higher-than-the-industry-with-4-star-sg-michael-phillips/

[Hards Alumni]

This has Phillips and Miletic at 102 and 106, which is much higher than what I remember seeing, yet still not top 100.

James listed 83, but that's not the consensus.  I've seen 112 and 121 for his ranking. 

The season finished a couple of weeks ago, and rankings aren't always finalized.

IMO, it doesn't really matter.  We've all seen players with low rankings dominate, and vice versa.  Anything outside of the top 20-25 feels like a crap shoot.

[wiscwarrior]

I just don't believe there's much difference in ability between a top 75 and a top 150 player; probably not much between a top 50 and 150 player. I believe these rankings matter only in the top 25 to 30 players. Coaches evaluation is what matters most.

Edit: I agree with Hards.

[JTJ3]

That was in July unless you have something recent.

https://www.on3.com/news/why-on3-is-higher-than-the-industry-with-4-star-sg-michael-phillips/

45

https://www.on3.com/db/rankings/player/basketball/2025/

[HutchwasClutch]

The season finished a couple of weeks ago, and rankings aren't always finalized.

IMO, it doesn't really matter.  We've all seen players with low rankings dominate, and vice versa.  Anything outside of the top 20-25 feels like a crap shoot.

I agree with all of this.  I only take rankings somewhat seriously when there's consensus of top 50. 

My point was it's a stretch at best to declare we have 4 top 100 recruits incoming. 

[HutchwasClutch]

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https://www.on3.com/db/rankings/player/basketball/2025/

Hope they're right, but looks like they're a major outlier on him that high.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

[JTJ3]

Hope they're right, but looks like they're a major outlier on him that high.

The lead for On3 is from NC.  So either he's biased or he has him that high because he's actually watched him and the other services haven't.  Guess it depends if youre an optimist or pessimist on how you view that.

Seems to be the case for all these sites now though.  They dont put in the same effort anymore with the portal, just like coaches. They dont see every recruit so they just rank who they have.  Which is why our recruits are not even ranked on some sites, no one has seen them play.

[Viper]

Sadly, no.  Or, he is a troll thorough enough to name a dorm, years, and events accurately from 40 years ago.  In which case, bravo.

love MU as much as anyone. Dare I say my dad was a MU educated...dentist!! And double dare I say...was an admin in the dental school during my undergrad yrs and my sisters law school yrs. Point? I love MU hoops and bleed blue & gold. I absolutely HATE the woe is little Marquette attitude so many scoopers have. Think big! Overcome the obstacles! Recruit the best! We have guys on our team that have no business playing here. Come on Scoopers!!! Anyway, shared too much. Viper troll.out

[Viper]

Viper has to be a troll right?  You can simply use this thing called "Google" to find out who our top 100 recruits were.  It's not had.

replying to you thru Tower. btw, Google? Ha. I'll let others do that.

[Galway Eagle]

Do any recruiting services have Miletic or Phillips in the top 100?  The rankings I've seen have them well outside.

And if I remember correctly, only Stevens is top 100 in composite rankings. 

Ok my bad I was looking at the grade next to the stars. I acknowledge and amend it to "we have 4 top 106 guys coming in"

[The Equalizer]

Individual rankings from 247, ESPN, On3 and Rivals.
Composite rankings from 247, On3, and RSCI

Militec:
247: 106
ESPN: Unranked
On3: 136
Rivals Unranked

247 Composite: 154
RSCI Composite: Unranked
On3 Industry: 164

Phillips:
247: 102
ESPN: 94
On24: 45
Rivals: Unranked

247 Composite: 116
RSCI Composite: unranked
On3 Industry: 126 

James:
247: 83rd
ESPN: 54th
On3: 145
Rivals: 121

247 Composite: 83
RSCI: Unranked
On3 Industry: 84

Stevens
247: 77th
ESPN 99th
On3: Unranked
Rivals: 109

247 Composite: 115th
RSCI: Unranked
On3 Industry: 89


To address the statement that kicked this off, it's fair to say that we do not have 4 top 100 recruits. Militec is not top 100 in any service or composite ranking.

Then it gets to definitions.
Composite is the average of the various ratings
Consensus is top 100 in every service

We have zero Consensus top 100 recruits
3 appear in at least one top 100 list
2 appear in at least one service's composite list

[jesmu84]

I can't believe our entire next class is completely unranked.

Time to shut the program down

[MUbiz]

The season finished a couple of weeks ago, and rankings aren't always finalized.

IMO, it doesn't really matter.  We've all seen players with low rankings dominate, and vice versa.  Anything outside of the top 20-25 feels like a crap shoot.

This is 100% correct - it is a crap shoot. Tre Norman is MUBB 15th best recruit all time and has not lived up to the ranking to date: https://247sports.com/college/marquette/sport/basketball/alltimerecruits/

Tre was a top 5 scorer at peach jam coming into his freshman year at MU and was being compared to Cade Cunningham and was projected by everyone to be one of the top steals of the incoming high school recruits.

Time will tell if he can get back on track.

[Zog from Margo]

I agree with all of this.  I only take rankings somewhat seriously when there's consensus of top 50. 

My point was it's a stretch at best to declare we have 4 top 100 recruits incoming.

A six spot sttrrrrreeeetch

[Warrior_2002]

Individual rankings from 247, ESPN, On3 and Rivals.
Composite rankings from 247, On3, and RSCI

Militec:
247: 106
ESPN: Unranked
On3: 136
Rivals Unranked

247 Composite: 154
RSCI Composite: Unranked
On3 Industry: 164

Phillips:
247: 102
ESPN: 94
On24: 45
Rivals: Unranked

247 Composite: 116
RSCI Composite: unranked
On3 Industry: 126

James:
247: 83rd
ESPN: 54th
On3: 145
Rivals: 121

247 Composite: 83
RSCI: Unranked
On3 Industry: 84

Stevens
247: 77th
ESPN 99th
On3: Unranked
Rivals: 109

247 Composite: 115th
RSCI: Unranked
On3 Industry: 89


To address the statement that kicked this off, it's fair to say that we do not have 4 top 100 recruits. Militec is not top 100 in any service or composite ranking.

Then it gets to definitions.
Composite is the average of the various ratings
Consensus is top 100 in every service

We have zero Consensus top 100 recruits
3 appear in at least one top 100 list
2 appear in at least one service's composite list

Any insight or stats on who's been the most accurate over the years?

[Hards Alumni]

I can't believe our entire next class is completely unranked.

Time to shut the program down

We should probably just beg the A10 to take us, and accept that we will lose to Dayton twice a year. 

[tower912]

So, more relationships and growth candidates.   Two athletic guards, a versatile wing, and a bouncy 3 pt shooting wing.   Follow the lead of St. Francis, the thoughts of 80's era faculty, and shut it down.  All hope is gone.

[Galway Eagle]

Via 24/7

Kam and Stevie were 107 & 115 respectively in 247, Emarion and Jop were 86 & 84.

Oso 81, Justin 120, Kolek wasn't ranked, Dawson Garcia was 32