2024-2025 Season Grades

[BLWarrior91]

Omax's freshman year at Clemson was basically what DO was this year.

Excellent point.  Two years later OMax was an NBA draft pick.  Not saying DO will progress like that, but OMax proved that massive improvement is possible.  Oso is another example...hardly played as a freshman and now is a pro.

[burger]

Are you watching these games.....In the field of 68 where do you rank Marquette's team.....

Somewhere between 40 and 50 most likely....

We can agree on that....

Then we lose 3 significant contributors...

So our ranking next year with the lack of growth this year and we all know freshman typically don't contribute that much....

Next year's rank.....Somewhere between 70 and 100....Most likely....

Stop sipping the Blue and Gold Kool-aide.....It is what it is....

For a team that spends 8th most amount of money in NCAA basketball....

What should we expect?

Better than 70th to 100th....

That is for Damn sure.....

[Scoop Snoop]

Are you watching these games.....In the field of 68 where do you rank Marquette's team.....

Somewhere between 40 and 50 most likely....

We can agree on that....

Then we lose 3 significant contributors...

So our ranking next year with the lack of growth this year and we all know freshman typically don't contribute that much....

Next year's rank.....Somewhere between 70 and 100....Most likely....

Stop sipping the Blue and Gold Kool-aide.....It is what it is....

For a team that spends 8th most amount of money in NCAA basketball....

What should we expect?

Better than 70th to 100th....

That is for Damn sure.....

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[GoldenEagles03]

Are you watching these games.....In the field of 68 where do you rank Marquette's team.....

Somewhere between 40 and 50 most likely....

We can agree on that....

Then we lose 3 significant contributors...

So our ranking next year with the lack of growth this year and we all know freshman typically don't contribute that much....

Next year's rank.....Somewhere between 70 and 100....Most likely....

Stop sipping the Blue and Gold Kool-aide.....It is what it is....

For a team that spends 8th most amount of money in NCAA basketball....

What should we expect?

Better than 70th to 100th....

That is for Damn sure.....

🤣

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Are you watching these games.....In the field of 68 where do you rank Marquette's team.....

Somewhere between 40 and 50 most likely....

We can agree on that....

Then we lose 3 significant contributors...

So our ranking next year with the lack of growth this year and we all know freshman typically don't contribute that much....

Next year's rank.....Somewhere between 70 and 100....Most likely....

Stop sipping the Blue and Gold Kool-aide.....It is what it is....

For a team that spends 8th most amount of money in NCAA basketball....

What should we expect?

Better than 70th to 100th....

That is for Damn sure.....

😂 You're on a roll - keep going.

[AverageJoe]

Grades:

Kam - A.  Second team All-America - top ten in the country.  If that's not worthy of an A, I don't know what kind of grading scale is being used.

Stevie - B+.  Limited offensively but more than made up for by his defense, offensive rebounding, hustle, motor, leadership, tenacity, fight, etc.  All-time Marquetter.

Ross - B-.  Shot pretty well from 3.  Top notch defender with jumping ability and quickness.  Loved his put-backs.  Will be a good 3 & D player, hopefully he can take a bigger offensive role.

Jop - B.  3rd Team all-Big East deserves a B.  Hot and cold shooter, but capable of taking game over.  Would have been lost this year without his toughness down low.  Greatly improved rebounding and defense over the years.

Gold - B-.  Ended up with very good 3pt and FT percentages. Did well rebounding considering where played on the perimeter.  Had some great stretches and some poor stretches.  Needs to be more aggressive.  The spotlight was on him because he was the only serviceable center, which probably led to more intense criticism.

Parham - C.  For a non five star freshman he did about as well as you can hope for.  Wasn't strong enough to play center against guys four and five years older than him (Kalkbrenner, Dixon, Freemantle).  Has a good future.

Owens - D+.  Showed great athleticism and potential as a shooter.  He wasn't ready as a freshman, but has a high ceiling.

Norman - D.  Shooting was atrocious, but he has great energy and seemed to have potential as a defender.  Was effective driving and rebounding in limited playing time.  Having said that, not sure he is a Big East player.

Hamilton - D-.  No athleticism or basketball skill.  It was a mistake to both the people that hyped him, and the people that believed the hype. At least he stopped taking threes after the first few games.  Probably not a Big East player.

Thoughts on the redshirts:

Amadou - last year he only showed leaping ability.  The rosiest of rose-colored glasses could see him following the path of McCaskill (raw athlete redshirting his sophomore year), but extremely unlikely.

Clark - He's tall, but if he could have helped the team he would have been rostered.  Always hopeful, but will be skeptical of any hype.

Sean - He would have helped this year.  Kam was great at catch and shoot threes his first three years, would have helped if he could have been passing the ball to Kam.  Didn't like him playing with Kolek because he took the ball out of Kolek's hands, but think he can be a contributor his last two years.

[WarriorFan]

My effort at this exercise:
Kam:  A-.  2nd team AA but couldn't take over games the way MU needed him to.  Perhaps part of this was coaching... it seemed at times that he was told not to take over... and as the season progressed he kinda forgot how. 
Stevie:  B. came and went offensively and took lots of risks on Defense - leaving his man for a steal attempt and then the ball would get back to his man for an open 3.  While his defensive counting stats were good, his risk and recovery were not deserving of an A. 
Jop:  D.  On offense, when he has the ball it's going up.  When he doesn't have the ball it's like 4 vs 7 because he's like a defender and brings his man into help positions against better players like Kam.  There were a few moments when teammates criticized him but it seems Shaka loved him too much.  The dumbest and most selfish player on an MU team in a long time.  For the first half of the season, his defense was better than anyone on the bench, but in March Zaide's defense was better.
Ben:  C.  His defense was better than most give him credit for, but his inability to get it going on offense was disappointing.
Chase: B-.  Nice D.  Would have liked to see him more aggressive to the hoop much more regularly.  Nice improvement from last year and need another big jump.
Zaide: B- but later in the year was almost an A.  Came along nicely as the year progressed.
Norman:  F. Added almost nothing
Parham:  B-... Defense improved, bad hands, only shot when he had the ball.  Nice potential.  I'd like to see him as the roll man if he can learn how to catch the ball. No fear, which is a good thing.
Damarius:  C. Just couldn't use his limited skills in the MU framework.  System was not for him.  Needs drives and lobs.
Hamilton:  F.  doesn't mean there's not potential.  Sets good screens.  Tries hard.  No results.
Shaka:  C-  This was his most talented team but worst result considering the talent level.  No offensive scheme at all. 
Nevada:  F. Obsolete.  Everybody knows his offense now.  It's too easy to defend.  He's gotta go. 

[burger]

😂 You're on a roll - keep going.

Tell me a counter argument without modifications/changes?

[Uncle Rico]

Cam: C - seems like a nice kid but let's face it, bit if a choker
Stevie: D - would be a great student manager
Jop: D - hope he doesn't get his degree
Chase: D - better start to learn fast food management
Gold: D - can we get him deported?
Tre: F - wouldn't play at UWGB
Parnham: D - so much for the buzz on him
Owens: F - hope he knows transfer portal
Hamilton: F - he should take up hackey sack
Shaka: F - would be nice if he took the Nova job
Nevada: F- He needs to run a mystery offense teams won't be able to scout.
Offense: D- wish Don Kojis was alive
Defense: C- wish Luke Fischer was alive

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Tell me a counter argument without modifications/changes?

What?

[panda2.0]

Cam: C - seems like a nice kid but let's face it, bit if a choker
Stevie: D - would be a great student manager
Jop: D - hope he doesn't get his degree
Chase: D - better start to learn fast food management
Gold: D - can we get him deported?
Tre: F - wouldn't play at UWGB
Parnham: D - so much for the buzz on him
Owens: F - hope he knows transfer portal
Hamilton: F - he should take up hackey sack
Shaka: F - would be nice if he took the Nova job
Nevada: F- He needs to run a mystery offense teams won't be able to scout.
Offense: D- wish Don Kojis was alive
Defense: C- wish Luke Fischer was alive

How did you forget to grade Steve Munchen?

[Uncle Rico]

How did you forget to grade Steve Munchen?

I'm dumb

[panda2.0]

I'm dumb

Some things are better left unsaid

[tower912]

Kam: A.  Second team all-american.
Joplin: B.  His good was very good.  His bad was not.
Stevie: B.  I wish the rest of his body was as strong as his heart.
Chase: B-.  Reminds me of early Jimmy Butler.  I hope he learns to finish in traffic like Jimmy did.
Ben: B.  He did not foul out of every game.  Similarly to Stevie, shin splints and broken finger hampered him.
Caedin: C-.  I think the coaches believed what they said a year ago when they said he could have helped the 23-24 team.  Practice work did not carry over to games.
Royce: B  A natural replacement for Jop.  Not a big.  Fought hard.  My favorite freshman in some time.
Zaide: B. A pleasant surprise and I hope the Villanova game is foreshadowing and not the outlier
Tre: C.  Flashes, particularly on defense.  Not enough of them
DO: Incomplete.  Lost two months of preseason development and never really caught up.  But tantalizing flashes.

Coaching: B.  I think that they believed it when they said that Hamilton could have helped the 23-24 season, or agreed when Kam said on his podcast that CH was going to be a problem.  I think that they thought the DO of the August scrimmage would be a contributor.  I think they thought that Sean would be ready by conference season.
  I think they tried to have Ben defend like Oso too much.  Ben is athletic, but not the unicorn Oso was.  I hope going forward they start only switching 1-4 and let the 7 footers stay home.
  Offensively, MU got the shots the offense was designed to get, the players missed too many shots. And didn't seek out and finish through contact. It is my fervent hope that they incorporate some of UConn's off ball screening and movement.

Overall: B.  I will never complain about 23 wins.  I think there were more injuries than even were speculated about. 

[Johnny B]

Cam: C - seems like a nice kid but let's face it, bit if a choker
Stevie: D - would be a great student manager
Jop: D - hope he doesn't get his degree
Chase: D - better start to learn fast food management
Gold: D - can we get him deported?
Tre: F - wouldn't play at UWGB
Parnham: D - so much for the buzz on him
Owens: F - hope he knows transfer portal
Hamilton: F - he should take up hackey sack
Shaka: F - would be nice if he took the Nova job
Nevada: F- He needs to run a mystery offense teams won't be able to scout.
Offense: D- wish Don Kojis was alive
Defense: C- wish Luke Fischer was alive

Uh oh ricos triggered someone didn't give everyone an A + and a sticker :0

[Uncle Rico]

Uh oh ricos triggered someone didn't give everyone an A + and a sticker :0

Yes, that is it.