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avid1010

Quote from: MDMU04 on April 30, 2025, 08:09:56 AMWell, then get out your checkbook
I'm not saying they should offer more.  I'm just saying I don't think it's enough to land anyone who can immediately contribute.  I'm all for players being compensated, but the numbers are growing way too large.  It feels like NIL is going to make life difficult for MU.  I appreciate Shaka's approach.  Think it is our best bet. 

Uncle Rico

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MU82

Quote from: avid1010 on April 30, 2025, 07:42:28 PMThree former players from the final four team. 

I've said this on here before.  My understanding is Kam was offered big $ after sophomore year and MU figured it out to get in the same ball park.  Was close to $2 million last year.  Kolek over $1 million.  Have a family friend that was a very good low-mid major player now making $800k range to compete for a starting spot at high major school. 

Goodman gave numbers he was hearing from players...sounded similar $750k and up for starters at big time schools. 

I don't think any of this is hard to believe with or without citing sources given the reporting on it.  I know everyone is throwing out numbers, but you can see a consistency across reports.

Shaka offering someone $300k makes sense given what I have heard the reserves get.  It wouldn't be more than guys that have been at MU for longer.  Unfortunately, I don't think $300k gets you much in the portal.

Thank you for expounding on your earlier post. This kind of thing helps my understanding of a complex situation.

Glad athletes are getting compensated what the market will bear. Capitalism at its finest. Here's hoping our alma mater's basketball team continues to do well.
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79Warrior

Quote from: avid1010 on April 30, 2025, 07:42:28 PMThree former players from the final four team. 

I've said this on here before.  My understanding is Kam was offered big $ after sophomore year and MU figured it out to get in the same ball park.  Was close to $2 million last year.  Kolek over $1 million.  Have a family friend that was a very good low-mid major player now making $800k range to compete for a starting spot at high major school. 

Goodman gave numbers he was hearing from players...sounded similar $750k and up for starters at big time schools. 

I don't think any of this is hard to believe with or without citing sources given the reporting on it.  I know everyone is throwing out numbers, but you can see a consistency across reports.

Shaka offering someone $300k makes sense given what I have heard the reserves get.  It wouldn't be more than guys that have been at MU for longer.  Unfortunately, I don't think $300k gets you much in the portal.

lol.That is fantasy land. Good grief such nonsense thrown around.

jfp61

All the money is off.

And no, MU isn't "underbidding" on transfers.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: jfp61 on May 01, 2025, 04:10:50 PMAll the money is off.

And no, MU isn't "underbidding" on transfers.

A colleague coached a current P4 starter and McDonald's AA in AAU ball. When I brought up a rumor that the kid was getting over $100k, he laughed: "$30k, maybe up to $40k, and a car lease paid for while he's there." My colleague worked with the kid's dad through the recruiting process. The inflated numbers are coming from two parties: agents trying to get numbers up for their clients or recruit new clients, and coaches making excuses for not getting guys. The inflated numbers also hurt kids who believe them, then leave places where they can be successful, thinking they're going to get six-figure deals, and they don't.

Not to say there aren't multi-million dollar guys out there, but the idea that low and mid major guys are getting nearly $1 million to transfer is laughable.
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wadesworld

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 01, 2025, 06:11:17 PMA colleague coached a current P4 starter and McDonald's AA in AAU ball. When I brought up a rumor that the kid was getting over $100k, he laughed: "$30k, maybe up to $40k, and a car lease paid for while he's there." My colleague worked with the kid's dad through the recruiting process. The inflated numbers are coming from two parties: agents trying to get numbers up for their clients or recruit new clients, and coaches making excuses for not getting guys. The inflated numbers also hurt kids who believe them, then leave places where they can be successful, thinking they're going to get six-figure deals, and they don't.

Not to say there aren't multi-million dollar guys out there, but the idea that low and mid major guys are getting nearly $1 million to transfer is laughable.

Or are the agents telling their clients they're getting the lower amount but the school is giving the agent the higher amount, leaving the agent to skim money from their clients, as you claimed earlier?

Jay Bee

It's also getting smarter. When the transfer notification window ended and kids didn't enter, booom... $$$ to them from their school. The timing of outflows are crazy.

Brutal implications from a tax perspective. These collectives (and related donors) COULD be taken to task at some point. Blatant tax fraud abound.
The portal is NOT closed.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Jay Bee on May 01, 2025, 06:17:29 PMIt's also getting smarter. When the transfer notification window ended and kids didn't enter, booom... $$$ to them from their school. The timing of outflows are crazy.

Brutal implications from a tax perspective. These collectives (and related donors) COULD be taken to task at some point. Blatant tax fraud abound.

I wouldn't worry.  The IRS isn't staffed enough to worry about such things
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Jay Bee

Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 01, 2025, 06:21:51 PMI wouldn't worry.  The IRS isn't staffed enough to worry about such things


Ok. I'll trust you. You know good staffing.
The portal is NOT closed.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Jay Bee on May 01, 2025, 07:26:16 PMOk. I'll trust you. You know good staffing.

Jealous?
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Bee Jay with more penis fascination. Huh.
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It feels like order has been restored.
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DoctorV

Quote from: jfp61 on May 01, 2025, 04:10:50 PMAll the money is off.

And no, MU isn't "underbidding" on transfers.
Quote from: jfp61 on May 01, 2025, 04:10:50 PMAll the money is off.

And no, MU isn't "underbidding" on transfers.

Tell us more

avid1010

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 01, 2025, 06:11:17 PMNot to say there aren't multi-million dollar guys out there, but the idea that low and mid major guys are getting nearly $1 million to transfer is laughable.
Absolutely false.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: avid1010 on May 02, 2025, 05:13:09 AMAbsolutely false.

there is a difference between asking for it and getting it. But keep believing that every kid who transferred from Evansville or San Diego is getting $1 million.
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jfp61


Jay Bee

The portal is NOT closed.

tower912

Quote from: Spencer Pratt on April 28, 2025, 12:05:35 PMFWIW, T-Rank has our talent ranked 4th in the conference for 2026.  Also has our overall ranking at 4th as well.

https://www.barttorvik.com/trankpre.php?sort=tal&conlimit=BE
For Viper.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

tower912

Sorber staying in the draft.  Georgetown takes another step back.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

willie warrior

Quote from: tower912 on May 04, 2025, 11:32:14 AMFor Viper.
Hmmmm....The gap still widening between MU and UConn, Creighton and St. Johns. Giddyup Shaka. Isn't that right Reeker?
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

Uncle Rico

Quote from: willie warrior on Today at 10:15:03 AMHmmmm....The gap still widening between MU and UConn, Creighton and St. Johns. Giddyup Shaka. Isn't that right Reeker?


Correct.  The gap is wider than ever.  Bring Wardle Home
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wadesworld

Quote from: willie warrior on Today at 10:15:03 AMHmmmm....The gap still widening between MU and UConn, Creighton and St. Johns. Giddyup Shaka. Isn't that right Reeker?


I need to Skype you and get your thoughts on how to reverse this gap widening.

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 11:00:16 AMI need to Skype you and get your thoughts on how to reverse this gap widening.

Is today the day Skype is officially killed off by Microsoft? 

willie warrior

Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 11:00:16 AMI need to Skype you and get your thoughts on how to reverse this gap widening.
Keep getting better recruits. Last years team was weakest Shaka team since year 1. All 3 of the teams mentioned finished higher than MU and MU was 1-6 against those teams. Hence, the gap is widening. Let Reeker expound his sarcastic BS. He cannot argue those facts.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

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