Way too early 25-26 discussion

[wadesworld]

If by 5th you mean 3rd

If he keeps saying it, it makes it more correct.  At least that's how he seems to think it works.

[willie warrior]

Strong Nov & Dec. Then showing cracks in Jan. Feb fade in full effect with a quick tourney exit after getting a non-protected seed. #TheMUBBway #COLE

Tons of question marks but we can be good. Hoping one of the frosh can make a decent impact (eg, 35-40% minutes of high quality ball)

Will be interesting to see the alpha usage guys. Royce & DO I think will be up there, but someone's gotta ramp up. Can Chase, Ben or Zaide do it well?

#pray

Good news is our 3fg% comps will look easy to match/best

Chase and Zaide look like best bets to step up. Dont think Ben has it in him. It is up to him to prove it.
Hopefully  DO and Parham take big jumps and 2 of the frosh demonstrate the ability to drain consistently from 3.
Speculate Militec will be a good 3 point guy next year. However we lack any bangers underneath and need that in BEast. Fifth place ceiling is about right for next year, unless some guys really over perform from expectations.

[MU82]

People are saying that we might not field a team at all next season.

[hawk]

I think 5th place is the basement.  I expect more that that.  I was afraid of the Will Gates syndrome with Jones but sitting out the whole year I'm past that.  Solid at the point and Parham, Lowery and Owens are all studs next year.  long bench and great height.  Future's so bright I need shades

[Jay Bee]

Kur... or Yous??

[NCMUFan]

Looking forward to Marquette as repeating national champions in 25-26.

[Newsdreams]

Is it too early to talk about 2028?

[WarriorFan]

Next year looks very optimistic.  Considering that it's hard for frosh to make an impact, I see it as:
c:  Gold / Caedin- and Caedin improves massively
pf:  Parham... huge upgrade vs. Jop
SF:  Ross. Stud
SG:  Zaide:  stud
PG:  Owens / Jones. Drop off in skill from Kam but depth helps.

Probable 6th Man:  Jones
Probable 7th:  Norman

If Shaka can develop a better offensive system that gets some easy buckets, the sky's the limit for these guys because the overall talent is better than this year.

All of these guys are better team players and most are better individual players than Joplin. 

All but Jones are bigger/faster/stronger than Stevie.

My only question is who takes the big shots / tough shots.  Methinks Parham. 

[tower912]

Those who think Shaka/Nevada don't have different offensive looks depending on personnel in the game simply haven't been watching. Gold is more comfortable on the perimeter, Hamilton is better on the block, Oso was great around the top of the key/FT line, Kur was the classic screen-setter/rim-runner. And that's where those bigs play/played the majority of the time they are/were in games.

Ding ding ding

[MUDPT]

I think 5th place is the basement.  I expect more that that.  I was afraid of the Will Gates syndrome with Jones but sitting out the whole year I'm past that.  Solid at the point and Parham, Lowery and Owens are all studs next year.  long bench and great height.  Future's so bright I need shades

Gates and Jones had two completely different surgeries. Gates had a surgery, as seen in Hoop Dreams, that they would never do again.

[MarquetteMike1977]

Next year looks very optimistic.  Considering that it's hard for frosh to make an impact, I see it as:
c:  Gold / Caedin- and Caedin improves massively
pf:  Parham... huge upgrade vs. Jop
SF:  Ross. Stud
SG:  Zaide:  stud
PG:  Owens / Jones. Drop off in skill from Kam but depth helps.

Probable 6th Man:  Jones
Probable 7th:  Norman

Agree with this. Also feel Josh Clark though a freshman, since he red shirted, will add some blocks and dunks next year. Program is strong yet and am optimistic about next year too.

Edit After watching Nigel James video today maybe throw him into the mix too as a point guard like Tony Miller or Dominic James who starts every game as a freshman.

[BCHoopster]

I think James has a good chance of potentially starting at sometime next year.  Played prep school with great players around him, and high level games.
A little bigger than Sean Jones, but just as explosive, can he shoot the three we will see.

[brewcity77]

I think this year is largely a transition year. Our seniors were guys that were largely recruited to a different system (Kam, Stevie) and for a different type of play style (Joplin). While all have excelled in the system we play, the Wojo recruits don't fit the long, hyper-athletic recruit that Shaka favors, while Joplin seems more suited for his Texas teams before Nevada Smith and before the defensive shift back to the Violence defense we play here at Marquette.

There is always worry about what we will lose, but I think guys like Zaide, Royce, Owens, Chase, and the incoming freshmen better suit what we are trying to run. The biggest question will be the point and whether Sean can come back 100%, but I think there's still plenty of upside next year. I can see the defense in particular improving. The biggest question will be if the shooting is there. I think we have the capability, but it needs to translate to on-court makes.

[Billy Hoyle]

Next year looks very optimistic.  Considering that it's hard for frosh to make an impact, I see it as:
c:  Gold. Caeden transfers
pf:  Parham... huge upgrade vs. Jop
SF:  Ross. Stud
SG:  Zaide: emerging
PG:  transfer

Probable 6th Man:  Jones
Probable 7th:  Owens

 

I think will realize he will need more from the PG position and go out and get a bigger scoring PG in the Kolek mold. Some ideal guys at the mid-major level who may be available are Jalen Jackson (PFW), Max McKinnon (Portland via Elon), Marcus Evans (Rice). I'd love a guy like Bennett Stirtz (Drake) or Tayshawn Comer (Evansville). There should be plenty available

[tower912]

Assuming no departures, I think Shaka will look at tre, Sean, Nigel, and possibly DO and think, nah, we're good.   Honestly, barring departures, the roster is balanced and deep.
5 guys 6'9 or taller
5 wings in the 6'5-6'7 range
2 6'3 guards
2 <6' pgs.

[JTJ3]

I dont see the need for an incoming transfer, but it does sound like Andrew Rohde will be transferring out of UVA for his last year.

We recruited him the last time he transferred 2 years ago so there is a relationship there.  I dont expect us to pursue, I dont see PG as a massive need, but I doubt he would be someone we'd have to drop a bag for to come home for his last season if the need for a transfer PG arises unexpectedly.

[willie warrior]

I think James has a good chance of potentially starting at sometime next year.  Played prep school with great players around him, and high level games.
A little bigger than Sean Jones, but just as explosive, can he shoot the three we will see.

Tend to agree. Nothing against Sean Jones, but he is about 5'8' and coming off a major injury with tons of rust. James seems like the keys should be given to him.

[bilsu]

This is the last year of the extra covid year players. College basketball is going to get younger overall. Except if the NCAA decides on giving every player 5 years. I do not see Kam, Stevie or Joplin staying another year, so if this takes place for next year MU will suffer.

[We R Final Four]

Tre is showing flashes with his drives as well (I think he will spend a lot of time on the line next year...and he's started to hit FT recently). I still believe Tre runs point with SJ next year and think his 3 pt shooting will improve (35% ish).

Tre is currently shooting sub 18% from deep...........if he shoots 35% next year on equal or more shots, thats not improvement thats a miracle.
After the Nova game he is up to 50% FTs.

[brewcity77]

This is the last year of the extra covid year players. College basketball is going to get younger overall. Except if the NCAA decides on giving every player 5 years. I do not see Kam, Stevie or Joplin staying another year, so if this takes place for next year MU will suffer.

This is the last year of widespread extra COVID year use. It's not necessarily the last year. Anyone that was a freshman in 2020-21 and took a redshirt/medical waiver year after would be eligible to play another season. For instance...

2020-21: COVID Freshman
2021-22: Sophomore
2022-23: Junior
2023-24: Medical "redshirt"
2024-25: Senior
2025-26: Eligible for COVID Fifth Year

[SaveOD238]

This is the last year of the extra covid year players. College basketball is going to get younger overall. Except if the NCAA decides on giving every player 5 years. I do not see Kam, Stevie or Joplin staying another year, so if this takes place for next year MU will suffer.

I could see Jop coming back.  He's got a lot of local NIL endorsements that will disappear once he's in Europe playing for a second tier team in Slovakia.

[MU82]

I think will realize he will need more from the PG position and go out and get a bigger scoring PG in the Kolek mold. Some ideal guys at the mid-major level who may be available are Jalen Jackson (PFW), Max McKinnon (Portland via Elon), Marcus Evans (Rice). I'd love a guy like Bennett Stirtz (Drake) or Tayshawn Comer (Evansville). There should be plenty available

People are saying that Joe Chartouny is available again.

Also, word is that Hurley would trade Mahaney to Shaka for a Leon's triple-dip butter pecan cone.

[Viper]

Assuming no departures, I think Shaka will look at tre, Sean, Nigel, and possibly DO and think, nah, we're good.  Honestly, barring departures, the roster is balanced and deep.
5 guys 6'9 or taller
5 wings in the 6'5-6'7 range
2 6'3 guards
2 <6' pgs.

6'9" or taller guys...Parham yes please. The others are question marks, imo..I include Gold in that...and freely admit I'm not a fan but sure hope he's big time next year. Deep and balanced we agree. Enough talent to finish top 5 in-conference? I suppose it's the proverbial TBD.

[WarriorFan]

I could see Jop coming back.  He's got a lot of local NIL endorsements that will disappear once he's in Europe playing for a second tier team in Slovakia.

You said that just to upset me.

Nothing would be worse.

[Scoop Snoop]

You said that just to upset me.

Nothing would be worse.