2025-26 NFL Thread

[wadesworld]

Love was outstanding today to overcome the myriad of drops.

Watson has separated himself from the rest of the WRS. Golden needs to step up.

Time to halt any expectations on Wicks & Musgrave.

Did people have expectations for Wicks or Musgrave?

[HutchwasClutch]

Did people have expectations for Wicks or Musgrave?

Musgrave was a 2nd round pick, so yeah. 

[wadesworld]

Musgrave was a 2nd round pick, so yeah. 

I mean I guess. But it's year 3 and he's shown nothing more than being a bad NFL player at this point. Any expectations for Musgrave going into this season were misguided.

[HutchwasClutch]

I mean I guess. But it's year 3 and he's shown nothing more than being a bad NFL player at this point. Any expectations for Musgrave going into this season were misguided.

Given how much he's been injured and how many games he missed his first two seasons, it was still very reasonable to expect he'd show a lot more if he could just stay on the field. 

[JWags85]

Still going to be hesitant to call Caleb "him".

But JJ definitely is not "him"

Its kind of remarkable.  I feel like every game he's terrible, has one drive where he looks good to very good, then goes back to being terrible.

Shedeur banged out a 13.5 QB rating today.

Surely he has earned another start or two.

In his defense, not many QBs see their first official NFL action in a mid game situation where they have literally don't have time to finish a 3 step drop.  He certainly wasn't good but the lack of protection he had was breathtaking.  And he got them inside the 30 with a chance to tie the game and the refs actually missed a blatant offsides on 4th and 5 where he got blown up yet again without a chance to do anything.  The Browns are such a dumpster fire that if you put Drake Maye under center he'd be struggling right now.

[Shaka Shart]

They're good.  The Bears aren't.

My expectations as a fan current is I'm happy they're not "bad"

[HutchwasClutch]

Its kind of remarkable.  I feel like every game he's terrible, has one drive where he looks good to very good, then goes back to being terrible.

In his defense, not many QBs see their first official NFL action in a mid game situation where they have literally don't have time to finish a 3 step drop.  He certainly wasn't good but the lack of protection he had was breathtaking.  And he got them inside the 30 with a chance to tie the game and the refs actually missed a blatant offsides on 4th and 5 where he got blown up yet again without a chance to do anything.  The Browns are such a dumpster fire that if you put Drake Maye under center he'd be struggling right now they were dumb enough to draft him.

[Shaka Shart]

Though ben johnson gave kevin warren one of the game balls today so I'm back out on this org.

Back to going to church on Sundays times exactly to kickoff like I should be

[HutchwasClutch]

Really psyched about Packers win today. Showed a lot of heart.  Not your ordinary Super Bowl contender that goes and steals one on the road against a 2-8 team, with an interim coach in his first game.  Throw in doing this against a journeyman backup QB with a losing career record and without their two best playmakers.  Tip of the cap to Hafley and LaFleur. Holding on with a late int is no small accomplishment.  Let the good times roll. 

[MU82]

Sam Darnold back to seeing ghosts.

He was brutal, by far his worst game with Seattle. He personally gifted the Rams 14 of their 21 points, and that doesn't count the scoring opportunities the Seahawks lost because of the INTs.

The Seahawks have an elite defense, a great WR and some other good pieces. If Darnold avoids being Bad Sam, they are easily a playoff team; if he can be Good Sam, they probably are talented enough to go all the way.

They almost survived Really Really Bad Sam today, playing on the road, against a team many observers were calling the best in the NFL. If he's even average, Seattle wins that game.

So it will all be about Darnold going forward. The Vikings ultimately found out last year that was a bad thing. Hopefully, the Seahawks don't find out the same this year.

[GB Warrior]

Good teams should have to play themselves to balance the schedule.

Pretty sure this is Matt Lafleur's philosophy every Sunday

[Jockey]

Did people have expectations for Wicks or Musgrave?

Not anymore.

[wadesworld]

Good thing Hurts has had a stacked roster around him all through college and the pros, because boy does he stink at throwing a football.

[MuggsyB]

Good thing for Hurts has had a stacked roster around him all through college and the pros, because boy does he stink at throwing a football.

It looks like a tough weather night. 

[MuggsyB]

So is that 0-5 on 4th down for Detroit?

[Dish]

The Bears are obviously fraudulent, with -6 point differential and their .279 strength of victory percentage.

They have trips to GB, Philly, SF still to come, and they certainly can get drilled in those three road games.

Will they make the playoffs? Maybe? I do believe though that Ben Johnson is learning a ton. Making actual adjustments that are working, scheming for two minute drills with success, and maybe (just maybe) there's hope for the future?

[Jockey]

In his defense, not many QBs see their first official NFL action in a mid game situation where they have literally don't have time to finish a 3 step drop.  He certainly wasn't good but the lack of protection he had was breathtaking.  And he got them inside the 30 with a chance to tie the game and the refs actually missed a blatant offsides on 4th and 5 where he got blown up yet again without a chance to do anything.  The Browns are such a dumpster fire that if you put Drake Maye under center he'd be struggling right now.

I figured you would be the one to defend Shadeur.

[WhiteTrash]

The Bears are obviously fraudulent, with -6 point differential and their .279 strength of victory percentage.

They have trips to GB, Philly, SF still to come, and they certainly can get drilled in those three road games.

Will they make the playoffs? Maybe? I do believe though that Ben Johnson is learning a ton. Making actual adjustments that are working, scheming for two minute drills with success, and maybe (just maybe) there's hope for the future?

Give Johnson a good GM and the Bears could be a serious team.

[Pakuni]

That was not a very good call.

[forgetful]

That was not a very good call.

The Eagles get more beneficial whistles than any team not named the Chiefs. It is ridiculous the calls they get, and its been a thing for years.

[MU82]

That was not a very good call.

Terrible, terrible game-ending call.

[tower912]

So pervasive, barely noticeable.  Both in NFL officiating and the Lions pantheon.

[wadesworld]

Much of what JWags said.  If I had to choose one team?  The Chiefs are the team to trust the most just given their Playoff success with Mahomes and Reid.  But I'm certainly taking the field over the Chiefs.  The Chiefs could easily go 1-3 in their next 4 and be on the outside looking in to even make the Playoffs.

I still think the Bills are a better roster and there's nothing to suggest that what the Colts are doing is a fluke.

So yeah, since I'd take the field over just the Chiefs, it wouldn't surprise me to see someone other than the Chiefs in the SB out of the AFC.

I won't burry a Mahomes/Reid team until they're dead, but...yup.

[JWags85]

I figured you would be the one to defend Shadeur.

Sorry that people have the ability to not be smugly/incessantly dismissive and cynical jackasses for periods of time.

He was clearly terrible outside of a few moments on that final drive, but he was also thrown into a hopeless situation while you and half the internet waited with baited breath to smirk when he failed, which I find tremendously lame.

[Uncle Rico]

Sorry that people have the ability to not be smugly/incessantly dismissive and cynical jackasses for periods of time.

He was clearly terrible outside of a few moments on that final drive, but he was also thrown into a hopeless situation while you and half the internet waited with baited breath to smirk when he failed, which I find tremendously lame.

He had the same problems he had in college.  Holds the ball too long and loses massive yardage when sacked.