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PGsHeroes32

This Vikings offseason is niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice


Gotta just pray JJ is ready
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MU82

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 15, 2025, 08:21:22 PMThis Vikings offseason is niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice


Gotta just pray JJ is ready

You're THAT happy to get rid of Darnold?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 15, 2025, 08:21:22 PMThis Vikings offseason is niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice


Gotta just pray JJ is ready


LOL, they don't have a quarterback.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: MU82 on March 15, 2025, 08:28:52 PMYou're THAT happy to get rid of Darnold?

That.

Plus every FA signing and I love the Mason trade too.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: The Sultan on March 15, 2025, 08:31:56 PMLOL, they don't have a quarterback.

Didn't last year either.

Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

GB Warrior

The NFC North is going to be even more of a slog this year

wadesworld

Quote from: GB Warrior on March 15, 2025, 09:53:02 PMThe NFC North is going to be even more of a slog this year

Just to go 0-3 in the Playoffs again.

HutchwasClutch

#207
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 15, 2025, 09:45:02 PMDidn't last year either.


All they have at the games most important position is a guy who has yet to play in the NFL at one of the hardest positions in sports where just about everyone struggles early on.   No one except a Vikings fan would feel good about next year with that situation.

Pakuni

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 15, 2025, 11:43:15 PMAll they have at the games most important position is a guy who has yet to play in the NFL at one of the hardest positions in sports where just about everyone struggles early on.   No one except a Vikings fan would feel good about next year with that situation.

On the other hand, many had the Bears making the playoffs last year, so much so that the odds were -120 in July.
And Williams had an objectively worse roster around him heading into 2024, and far worse coaching staff, than McCarthy has heading into 2025.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 15, 2025, 09:45:02 PMDidn't last year either.

If you mean that, going into last season, it didn't appear that the Vikings had a viable QB, I'm with you.

If you mean that, when the games mattered most, Darnold was a major negative, I'm with you.

But if you're trying to rewrite history and say that, for the vast majority of the season, Darnold wasn't a very good QB, that's just silly.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on March 16, 2025, 11:08:53 AMIf you mean that, going into last season, it didn't appear that the Vikings had a viable QB, I'm with you.

If you mean that, when the games mattered most, Darnold was a major negative, I'm with you.

But if you're trying to rewrite history and say that, for the vast majority of the season, Darnold wasn't a very good QB, that's just silly.

I think he means the first. But the problem with running a pass-oriented offense with a quarterback like Darnold is that eventually the mistakes will emerge when it matters most.  So you just can't throw anyone into that role and hope it works.

JJ could be way better than we think and be a star. Or Aaron Rodgers could agree to cause no ruffles and run the offense they have and it may work. So I'm not saying it's hopeless, but this is a powerful offense that seemingly doesn't have the quarterback to run it.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

GB Warrior

Quote from: The Sultan on March 16, 2025, 11:21:18 AMI think he means the first. But the problem with running a pass-oriented offense with a quarterback like Darnold is that eventually the mistakes will emerge when it matters most.  So you just can't throw anyone into that role and hope it works.

JJ could be way better than we think and be a star. Or Aaron Rodgers could agree to cause no ruffles and run the offense they have and it may work. So I'm not saying it's hopeless, but this is a powerful offense that seemingly doesn't have the quarterback to run it.

The day Rodgers runs an offense in a way be doesn't want to run it will be the first. The closest we've seen is his first MVP season under MLF

The Sultan

Quote from: GB Warrior on March 16, 2025, 01:51:42 PMThe day Rodgers runs an offense in a way be doesn't want to run it will be the first. The closest we've seen is his first MVP season under MLF

I don't disagree.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: MU82 on March 16, 2025, 11:08:53 AMIf you mean that, going into last season, it didn't appear that the Vikings had a viable QB, I'm with you.

If you mean that, when the games mattered most, Darnold was a major negative, I'm with you.

But if you're trying to rewrite history and say that, for the vast majority of the season, Darnold wasn't a very good QB, that's just silly.



As sultan said it's from an objective standpoint the 1st option.

But it's also a mix of all 3. I'm a firm believer that while KOC had some odd game plan/coaching the final few games. That overall he's an excellent offensive strategist and mostly anyone can work with this unit.

So i feel good about McCarthy.

Also, probably wasn't clear but the main reason I absolutely love the Vikes off-season is everything around the QB. JJ could flop and the season be a disaster. But imo we've added everyone we needed to and got much better. Which is another huge reason I didn't want Darnold back. The cost.

There wasn't a true no brainer QB upgrade out there/possible. So that part I can't judge for FA as is.

Last note, I should say. As sick as it is to type, I'm one of the few Vikes fans that would be very open to giving Rodgers a go.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MU82

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 16, 2025, 03:27:24 PMAs sultan said it's from an objective standpoint the 1st option.

But it's also a mix of all 3. I'm a firm believer that while KOC had some odd game plan/coaching the final few games. That overall he's an excellent offensive strategist and mostly anyone can work with this unit.

So i feel good about McCarthy.

Also, probably wasn't clear but the main reason I absolutely love the Vikes off-season is everything around the QB. JJ could flop and the season be a disaster. But imo we've added everyone we needed to and got much better. Which is another huge reason I didn't want Darnold back. The cost.

There wasn't a true no brainer QB upgrade out there/possible. So that part I can't judge for FA as is.

Last note, I should say. As sick as it is to type, I'm one of the few Vikes fans that would be very open to giving Rodgers a go.

Thanks for the explanation.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell



JWags85

Quote from: Pakuni on March 16, 2025, 10:02:03 PMhttps://x.com/Schultz_Report/status/1901466892184740072

Did Mike Brown secretly die and someone else took over the franchise?

Also, he's good, but doesn't that seem like a pretty big overpay for Higgins?

The Sultan

Quote from: JWags85 on March 17, 2025, 12:04:32 PMDid Mike Brown secretly die and someone else took over the franchise?

Also, he's good, but doesn't that seem like a pretty big overpay for Higgins?

It feels like a lot of money tied up in receivers in general.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

GB Warrior

Quote from: The Sultan on March 17, 2025, 12:06:41 PMIt feels like a lot of money tied up in receivers in general.

The Bengals really got themselves in a tough spot. Their success is so dependent on their QB and receivers, and at this point, you're not finding defensive difference makers on the market if you were to forego paying Higgins.

Their best bet is basically striking gold drafting defense.

MUBurrow

What I really don't get is all the money for Gesicki.  He was fine, I guess.  But $12M this year for a middle of the road receiving TE seems like a want when there are glaring needs all over that roster.

tower912

The Lions clearly believe their defense last season was good enough to win it all, as they keep re-signing players from last season.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

GB Warrior

Quote from: tower912 on March 18, 2025, 04:58:58 PMThe Lions clearly believe their defense last season was good enough to win it all, as they keep re-signing players from last season.

For how many starts they lost to injury at the end of the year, I wouldn't bet against them. Nominally better health and progression from their young secondary...it's a dangerous team

tower912

It is.  As Holmes.said in his end of the year presser, nobody game plans for their 8th string defensive end.  I think they need some depth at safety.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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