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Pakuni

Laremy Tunsil being dealt to the Commanders for picks.

GB Warrior

Packers sign a nickel CB. Raiders Nate Hobbs 4/$48. I got nothing here - any AFC West people have opinions?

Pakuni

Quote from: GB Warrior on March 10, 2025, 04:03:09 PMPackers sign a nickel CB. Raiders Nate Hobbs 4/$48. I got nothing here - any AFC West people have opinions?

Raiders fan here.
Love, love, love Nate Hobbs. Borderline elite-level slot corner when healthy. Problem is, he plays a style that often gets him hurt, causing him to miss 14 games the past three years and be pretty hobbled for many more.
When he's healthy and on the field, you're going to like him a lot. But a bit of a gamble given his injury history.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: jesmu84 on March 10, 2025, 01:55:39 PM2/40 with 30 guaranteed for Fields to the Jets
It's good, nay - very good, to be an NFL QB.

GB Warrior

Quote from: Pakuni on March 10, 2025, 04:06:21 PMRaiders fan here.
Love, love, love Nate Hobbs. Borderline elite-level slot corner when healthy. Problem is, he plays a style that often gets him hurt, causing him to miss 14 games the past three years and be pretty hobbled for many more.
When he's healthy and on the field, you're going to like him a lot. But a bit of a gamble given his injury history.

Can he and Ja sync their injuries to create one complete corner?

Uncle Rico

Packers did fine today.  Off-season still hinges on finding another edge player
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tower912

Lions exchange Carlton Davis for DJ Reed at CB1.  About even.  The market and mark up for edges is nuts.
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GB Warrior

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 10, 2025, 04:42:30 PMPackers did fine today.  Off-season still hinges on finding another edge player

This. I hope they go after Chase Young but have a feeling his market is going to go bonkers (like 15M per)

GB Warrior

How can the saints keep funding a team with that cap situation

Dish

A lot of Bears fans confusing activity as accomplishment today.

The Jeanty at #10 talk is ridiculous. If he's there when they pick, it'll be Tyler Warren.

The Sultan

Quote from: GB Warrior on March 10, 2025, 08:20:27 PMHow can the saints keep funding a team with that cap situation

It's not like they've been successful
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GB Warrior

Quote from: The Sultan on March 10, 2025, 08:36:28 PMIt's not like they've been successful

Successful in retaining players I'd like to be available  :)

JWags85

Quote from: Dish on March 10, 2025, 08:35:54 PMA lot of Bears fans confusing activity as accomplishment today.

The Jeanty at #10 talk is ridiculous. If he's there when they pick, it'll be Tyler Warren.

You hated all the moves?

Jockey

Quote from: JWags85 on March 10, 2025, 09:38:37 PMYou hated all the moves?

I think they did alright. Poles will get credit/blame, but make no mistake, these are guys that Ben Johnson wanted.

So now, they can go one of 3 ways at the top of the draft - RB, TE, or Edge. We know Ben likes a good running game, but this is one of the better RB classes in a while so I'll be a bit surprised if he goes for Jeanty in the 1st round.

Dish

Quote from: JWags85 on March 10, 2025, 09:38:37 PMYou hated all the moves?

They're marginally better today, but a lot of Bears fans are head over heels with these moves. Applauding Poles for "fixing" previous neglect is silly.

Dalman is fine. People freaking out that the Bears signed "the best center available" is misguided. They're paying him as the second highest paid center in the league. Good for Dalman hitting FA at the right time, but they're paying top dollar for a good run blocker, mediocre pass blocker.

I don't understand giving Jarrett two guaranteed years at that amount for a 32 year old tackle. Analytically, he is as middle of the road as it gets currently, and 2024 was the worst year of his career. Is he going to get revitalized playing most of his games outdoors on grass now?

Odeyingbo is a scratch off lottery ticket. Wait to see.

They still have the worst roster in the division, and lack blue chip talent. I realize there wasn't blue chip level free agents available today, but these moves are...fine.

MU82

The Athletic, which graded all the FA deals around the NFL, likes Dalman more than you do, Dish.

C Drew Dalman to sign with Bears
Top 150 ranking: No. 15
Reported deal: Three years, $42 million
Grade: A

The signing of Dalman, formerly of the Falcons, gives the Bears a versatile, well-rounded center capable of fitting into any blocking scheme necessary. Dalman missed eight games with an ankle injury, but in the nine he did play in, he allowed a total of only 10 pressures and no sacks. Chicago has made upgrading Caleb Williams' line a high priority this offseason and Dalman is the latest piece to the puzzle.
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PointWarrior

The Bear fans are well on their way to winning another off-season Super Bowl.   How many consecutive is that now?

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Dish on March 10, 2025, 11:26:13 PMThey're marginally better today, but a lot of Bears fans are head over heels with these moves. Applauding Poles for "fixing" previous neglect is silly.

Dalman is fine. People freaking out that the Bears signed "the best center available" is misguided. They're paying him as the second highest paid center in the league. Good for Dalman hitting FA at the right time, but they're paying top dollar for a good run blocker, mediocre pass blocker.

I don't understand giving Jarrett two guaranteed years at that amount for a 32 year old tackle. Analytically, he is as middle of the road as it gets currently, and 2024 was the worst year of his career. Is he going to get revitalized playing most of his games outdoors on grass now?

Odeyingbo is a scratch off lottery ticket. Wait to see.

They still have the worst roster in the division, and lack blue chip talent. I realize there wasn't blue chip level free agents available today, but these moves are...fine.
I generally agree with all of this. I think your point about the quality of FAs available is true. I'd say given the potential of being able to improve a team via FA, the Bears did well and didn't lock themselves into long term big dollars. It terms of improving compared to the division or NFL, they did "fine" is accurate.

Hopefully they made a major upgrade at HC and the staff, marginal improvements via FA and trades and can add quality in the draft that adds up to a material improvement on the field. 

Shaka Shart

Quote from: Dish on March 10, 2025, 11:26:13 PMThey're marginally better today, but a lot of Bears fans are head over heels with these moves. Applauding Poles for "fixing" previous neglect is silly.

Dalman is fine. People freaking out that the Bears signed "the best center available" is misguided. They're paying him as the second highest paid center in the league. Good for Dalman hitting FA at the right time, but they're paying top dollar for a good run blocker, mediocre pass blocker.

I don't understand giving Jarrett two guaranteed years at that amount for a 32 year old tackle. Analytically, he is as middle of the road as it gets currently, and 2024 was the worst year of his career. Is he going to get revitalized playing most of his games outdoors on grass now?

Odeyingbo is a scratch off lottery ticket. Wait to see.

They still have the worst roster in the division, and lack blue chip talent. I realize there wasn't blue chip level free agents available today, but these moves are...fine.

I'd argue people are excited because they are doing what they have been supposed to do for a while, but have not.

That combined with new staff means people can be optimistic of the returns even if it is correcting past negligence.
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Dish

Quote from: MU82 on March 11, 2025, 07:11:17 AMThe Athletic, which graded all the FA deals around the NFL, likes Dalman more than you do, Dish.

C Drew Dalman to sign with Bears
Top 150 ranking: No. 15
Reported deal: Three years, $42 million
Grade: A

The signing of Dalman, formerly of the Falcons, gives the Bears a versatile, well-rounded center capable of fitting into any blocking scheme necessary. Dalman missed eight games with an ankle injury, but in the nine he did play in, he allowed a total of only 10 pressures and no sacks. Chicago has made upgrading Caleb Williams' line a high priority this offseason and Dalman is the latest piece to the puzzle.

The Athletic writer Mike Jones gave out almost all A's and B's, there was zero substance in that article.

All the analytic guys (PFF, Barnwell, Solak, Walder) are almost unanimously questioning why the Bears signed who they signed (or traded for) at the prices that they did (Thuney being the exception).



MU82

Quote from: Dish on March 12, 2025, 07:13:20 PMThe Athletic writer Mike Jones gave out almost all A's and B's, there was zero substance in that article.

All the analytic guys (PFF, Barnwell, Solak, Walder) are almost unanimously questioning why the Bears signed who they signed (or traded for) at the prices that they did (Thuney being the exception).


Yeah, I question some of their grades, too.

They rated Darnold the #4 player available and by far the best QB available. Seattle beat several other suitors to sign him to a team-friendly contract ... and The Athletic gave it a C grade.

I mean, I'm not sure this will be good for the Seahawks, but The Athletic might want to pay attention to The Athletic.
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cheebs09

Quote from: MU82 on March 13, 2025, 01:16:35 AMYeah, I question some of their grades, too.

They rated Darnold the #4 player available and by far the best QB available. Seattle beat several other suitors to sign him to a team-friendly contract ... and The Athletic gave it a C grade.

I mean, I'm not sure this will be good for the Seahawks, but The Athletic might want to pay attention to The Athletic.

Might be using the Scoop Non-conference grading scale.

tower912

Detroit signing Lopez from Ari is a nice DL depth move.   Re-signing Onwuzurike at $5 mil for one year is a steal.   McNeill's recovery from knee surgery is a wild card.   Detroit is basically saying that they believe the defense they started last season with is good enough to win it all.   If they can avoid the endless injuries.   
   Also, I think they believe Mahogany is able to replace Zeitler at guard.
  Rolling with continuity and culture is a bold move.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Quote from: tower912 on March 14, 2025, 07:47:44 AMAlso, I think they believe Mahogany is able to replace Zeitler at guard.

You wood.

FWIW ... I liked Detroit's moves, too. They're an excellent team. Running it back (mostly) was the logical course.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

Quote from: MU82 on March 14, 2025, 11:36:36 AMYou wood.

FWIW ... I liked Detroit's moves, too. They're an excellent team. Running it back (mostly) was the logical course.
Well played.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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