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The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on October 24, 2025, 08:52:09 AMGot it. You definitely didn't write that thing we all see you wrote.

Where did I dispute I wrote it? You are simply assuming something that it doesn't say.

Man, you are hilarious when backed into a corner. Dishonestly abounds.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jay Bee

Our defense looked like a$$ tbh
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Hards Alumni

Quote from: Jay Bee on October 24, 2025, 08:57:23 AMOur defense looked like a$$ tbh

Oh yeah, what number was on your jersey?  8-)

wadesworld

Quote from: wadesworld on January 14, 2024, 12:39:12 PMCould make a decent enough career backup I guess.

He said about JJ McCarthy, before he was even a Viking.  Obviously he'll have plenty of opportunity to prove me wrong, but when your college coach's strategy is to not allow his QB to throw the ball to win games, I don't have much faith that QB will be worth using a first round draft choice on.

tower912

Quote from: Pakuni on October 24, 2025, 08:31:49 AMWe've seen Daniel Jones perform in an offensive environment similar to the one now in Minnesota (i.e. no o-line, no running game).
How'd he do?

The time for that argument Wentz away.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

Also in honor of Pope Leo,  I have no enemies.  I have brothers and sisters I sometimes disagree with.

Badgerhater

Quote from: Pakuni on October 24, 2025, 08:31:49 AMWe've seen Daniel Jones perform in an offensive environment similar to the one now in Minnesota (i.e. no o-line, no running game).
How'd he do?

Jonathan Taylor takes a lot of pressure off any quarterback.
When we stop talking, really bad stuff happens.

WhiteTrash

The Bears are without their top 3 CBs Sunday. I predict a big game for Jackson and a very desperate Ravens team. Ravens -7.5 seems like a good bet.

MU82

Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 24, 2025, 04:56:25 PMThe Bears are without their top 3 CBs Sunday. I predict a big game for Jackson and a very desperate Ravens team. Ravens -7.5 seems like a good bet.

Next man up. The Seahawks played 3 straight games without 2 starting CBs and a starting safety. The Lions were decimated by injuries last season, and the 49ers have been injury-ravaged this season. That's life in the NFl.
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tower912

Quote from: MU82 on October 24, 2025, 06:50:28 PMThe Lions were decimated by injuries last season,

Someone smarter than me called Detroit's secondary against TB 'the legion of whom'.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

Also in honor of Pope Leo,  I have no enemies.  I have brothers and sisters I sometimes disagree with.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MU82 on October 24, 2025, 06:50:28 PMNext man up. The Seahawks played 3 straight games without 2 starting CBs and a starting safety. The Lions were decimated by injuries last season, and the 49ers have been injury-ravaged this season. That's life in the NFl.
Feel free to take the free money and bet on the Bears. I'd guess the money line would be very attractive to you.

Pakuni

Quote from: The Sultan on October 24, 2025, 08:56:49 AMWhere did I dispute I wrote it? You are simply assuming something that it doesn't say.

Man, you are hilarious when backed into a corner. Dishonestly abounds.

Oh, jfc, nobody is being dishonest.
You blamed the Vikings' record on the decision not to sign Darnold. I pointed out the myriad other issues behind their poor start. That triggered you, and instead of responding to what I wrote you chose to attack me personally. Which you do way too often when anyone here dares to disagree with one of your hot takes.
Man, maybe ask yourself why that is.

Pakuni

Quote from: tower912 on October 24, 2025, 12:29:00 PMThe time for that argument Wentz away.

I mean, if your position is that Daniel Jones is better than broken down Carson Wentz, you'll get no argument from me.

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on October 25, 2025, 08:38:17 AMOh, jfc, nobody is being dishonest.
You blamed the Vikings' record on the decision not to sign Darnold. I pointed out the myriad other issues behind their poor start. That triggered you, and instead of responding to what I wrote you chose to attack me personally. Which you do way too often when anyone here dares to disagree with one of your hot takes.
Man, maybe ask yourself why that is.

Your arguments shifted and are lying about what I said. So calling you dishonest is 100% accurate.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Pakuni on October 25, 2025, 08:41:59 AMI mean, if your position is that Daniel Jones is better than broken down Carson Wentz, you'll get no argument from me.


Darnold is fine as a QB but when he gets pressured, he starts seeing ghosts.  He was terrible in their loss to the Lions to close the season and against the Rams in the playoffs. 

The Vikings decided to go all-in on a rookie QB contract and rely on the all-world wideouts and defense.  Their failure is on the offensive line and a defense that has regressed this season.  A top-5 defense last year is middle of the road this year with a leaky secondary.

I get trying McCarthy.  He was your round 1 pick in '24.  They saw first hand how far Darnold can go.  It doesn't look like it'll work but there's no guarantee this team is as good record wise as last year if they keep Darnold.

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Pakuni

Quote from: The Sultan on October 25, 2025, 08:46:48 AMYour arguments shifted and are lying about what I said. So calling you dishonest is 100% accurate.

"The Vikings could have easily signed him to a cap friendly deal and not have had to franchise him. But they turned to an unproven, and apparently injury prone rookie, and have already exceeded their regular season losses from last year."

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on October 25, 2025, 09:21:42 AM"The Vikings could have easily signed him to a cap friendly deal and not have had to franchise him. But they turned to an unproven, and apparently injury prone rookie, and have already exceeded their regular season losses from last year."

Right. Never claimed it was the sole reason.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jockey

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 25, 2025, 08:59:40 AMDarnold is fine as a QB but when he gets pressured, he starts seeing ghosts.  He was terrible in their loss to the Lions to close the season and against the Rams in the playoffs. 

The Vikings decided to go all-in on a rookie QB contract and rely on the all-world wideouts and defense.  Their failure is on the offensive line and a defense that has regressed this season.  A top-5 defense last year is middle of the road this year with a leaky secondary.



Hard to tell if or how much the defense has regressed this year. The Queen's offense is no longer able to chew up big chunks of the clock to keep the ball out of the hands of the opposing offense.

PointWarrior

Quote from: MU82 on October 24, 2025, 06:50:28 PMNext man up. The Seahawks played 3 straight games without 2 starting CBs and a starting safety. The Lions were decimated by injuries last season, and the 49ers have been injury-ravaged this season. That's life in the NFl.

Does not hurt to be playing the likes of the Saints, Cardinals, Jaguars, and Texans...

Uncle Rico

Quote from: PointWarrior on October 26, 2025, 09:06:40 AMDoes not hurt to be playing the likes of the Saints, Cardinals, Jaguars, and Texans...

At least they avoid the Browns
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MuggsyB

#1844
We all know the 🐻 🐻 have been beyond fortunate.  Abd they get Balt and Cincy without their QB's. That said, this has been a good opening drive. 

CreightonWarrior


BM1090

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 26, 2025, 12:12:36 PMWe all know the 🐻 🐻 have been beyond fortunate.  Abd they get Balt and Cincy without their QB's. That said, this has been a good opening drive. 

Gotta be honest I think they're just a competent football team. I know it's been awhile since we saw one in Chicago but coaching fixes a lot of flaws

MuggsyB

Quote from: BM1090 on October 26, 2025, 12:37:20 PMGotta be honest I think they're just a competent football team. I know it's been awhile since we saw one in Chicago but coaching fixes a lot of flaws

Their defense didn't look competent that series.  And despite their takeaways, the stats aren't good.

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 26, 2025, 12:43:46 PMTheir defense didn't look competent that series.  And despite their takeaways, the stats aren't good.

That's pretty much most NFL defenses these days.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

BM1090

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 26, 2025, 12:43:46 PMTheir defense didn't look competent that series.  And despite their takeaways, the stats aren't good.

I don't think they're great but they are clearly better than a lot of teams. Pull this one out and they've got a good shot at the playoffs. Lots of parity this year.

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