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Date/Time: Feb 18, 2025 8:00pm
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wadesworld

February 04, 2025, 07:26:18 PM Last Edit: February 04, 2025, 07:46:05 PM by wadesworld
There is no way you can convince me that's a flagrant foul. He hit the ball out of his hand before any contact was even made, and the only contact was entirely to his arm.

Kam, Stevie, Gold all with 4 fouls with over 8 minutes left in the game. It was 7-0 fouls 7 minutes into the second half.

I feel horrible for Zaide and Royce. They get extended minutes and play an awesome game but the refs are not giving this team even remotely close to a fair whistle.

CountryRoads

#1
February 04, 2025, 07:28:32 PM
Knew that was coming tonight. Just wait though. It'll likely get worse.

fjm

#2
February 04, 2025, 07:32:36 PM
Every St. John's home game they have pulled out miraculously, and usually with a lot of referee help.

manny31

#3
February 04, 2025, 07:37:06 PM
I sure would like Shaka to stand up for the players. I don't have any Empirical evidence but it seems MU gets screwed consistently by a double standard on foul calls. At least a little temper tantrum might fire up the team, probably not the worst tactic with the refs either.

The Sultan

#5
February 04, 2025, 07:51:56 PM
Guys we are fouling a lot. SJU is by far the more aggressive team.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

PGsHeroes32

#6
February 04, 2025, 07:53:25 PM
We fouled like crazy. We left out feet and jumped on guys backs

We got fouls called too

Ben had a chance and wilted under pressure. Loves being a total no show on offense lately
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

wadesworld

#7
February 04, 2025, 07:54:34 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on February 04, 2025, 07:51:56 PMGuys we are fouling a lot. SJU is by far the more aggressive team.

They foul the hell out of ball handlers every possession. It's a 31-12 FT discrepancy, with multiple front end misses by SJU. We have one starter fouled out and 3 more with 4 fouls. Kam, Stevie, Gold all had to sit multiple minutes. They never gave us a shot.

The Sultan

#8
February 04, 2025, 07:55:03 PM
And there were bad calls on both teams. It's college basketball.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

jesmu84

#9
February 04, 2025, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on February 04, 2025, 07:51:56 PMGuys we are fouling a lot. SJU is by far the more aggressive team.

Is SJU fouling a lot?

The Sultan

#10
February 04, 2025, 07:56:12 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on February 04, 2025, 07:54:34 PMThey foul the hell out of ball handlers every possession. It's a 31-12 FT discrepancy, with multiple front end misses by SJU. We have one starter fouled out and 3 more with 4 fouls. Kam, Stevie, Gold all had to sit multiple minutes. They never gave us a shot.

Again SJU is relentlessly attacking the rim while we're flipping up prayers. The disparity makes perfect sense.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

#11
February 04, 2025, 07:56:45 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 04, 2025, 07:55:19 PMIs SJU fouling a lot?

Yes. Not as much as Marquette.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

wadesworld

#12
February 04, 2025, 07:58:27 PM
It's a 2 and a half hour game.

Total ref show.

jesmu84

#13
February 04, 2025, 07:58:41 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on February 04, 2025, 07:56:45 PMYes. Not as much as Marquette.

You believe the refs are calling the fouls evenly?

The Sultan

#14
February 04, 2025, 07:58:45 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on February 04, 2025, 07:58:27 PMIt's a 2 and a half hour game.

Total ref show.

Yep. Lots of calls.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

#15
February 04, 2025, 08:00:14 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 04, 2025, 07:58:41 PMYou believe the refs are calling the fouls evenly?

Evenly? No obviously.

Fairly? Yep. SJU is way more aggressive about attacking the rim. That will translate into fouls.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

jesmu84

#16
February 04, 2025, 08:02:09 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on February 04, 2025, 08:00:14 PMEvenly? No obviously.

Fairly? Yep. SJU is way more aggressive about attacking the rim. That will translate into fouls.

"Evenly" to me doesn't mean equal # of fouls called.

Evenly means calling the same actions fouls on both ends of the court.

I concede that Marquette fouled a lot in the 2nd half. And the refs called them.

I contend SJU fouled a lot in the 2nd half. And the refs didn't call them at the same rate.

Pakuni

#17
February 04, 2025, 08:02:59 PM
The refs made some bad calls. They didn't change the outcome.

tower912

#18
February 04, 2025, 08:03:04 PM
SJU is uber aggressive at home.  They are rewarded.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuggsyB

#19
February 04, 2025, 08:04:10 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on February 04, 2025, 07:51:56 PMGuys we are fouling a lot. SJU is by far the more aggressive team.

You're not wrong but if you look at it more closely in both halves St. J had 2 fouls at the 10 min mark. It was definitely an uneven whistle and they were extremely aggressive defensively. 

MuggsyB

#20
February 04, 2025, 08:04:48 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on February 04, 2025, 08:02:59 PMThe refs made some bad calls. They didn't change the outcome.

Agreed.  We have to be tougher.  Catching the ball would help as well. 

rocky_warrior

#21
February 04, 2025, 08:05:50 PM
Frankly, there were very few underserved fouls in that game.

jesmu84

#22
February 04, 2025, 08:08:14 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on February 04, 2025, 08:02:59 PMThe refs made some bad calls. They didn't change the outcome.

I agree with this.

Rebounding.. yikes

Daniel

#23
February 04, 2025, 08:09:23 PM
We need to hit shots and free throws.  That would help us win lol.  We'll get our groove back.....

tower912

#24
February 04, 2025, 08:10:17 PM
Quote from: Daniel on February 04, 2025, 08:09:23 PMWe need to hit shots and free throws.  That would help us win lol.  We'll get our groove back.....
Agreed.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.
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