Chase - Finishing at the Rim

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Chase has obviously been great this year and is a huge part of the team.  The defense is off the charts, and while inconsistent at times, he's improved as a scorer as well. 

The one area where I was hoping he'd take a bigger leap is finishing at the room through contact or around defenders.  He's an explosive athlete so we've seen some incredible breakaway dunks from him.

I certainly didn't expect him to have Kam's level of craftiness or touch but I was hoping for better. 

Anyone else feel this way?  Is my "eye test" wrong and not actually the reality? 

[tower912]

Respect the process.   We all want MU players to be better in all facets of the game.   We wanted the same thing from OMax.   For Chase, the next step in his growth.

[Its DJOver]

It's an area that he can improve on, at the same time I appreciate that he's the only one on the team that consistently goes up strong and doesn't shy away from the contact.  Nothing worse than making a shot more difficult because you're avoiding contact, not getting the foul and still missing.

[jesmu84]

It's an area that he can improve on, at the same time I appreciate that he's the only one on the team that consistently goes up strong and doesn't shy away from the contact.  Nothing worse than making a shot more difficult because you're avoiding contact, not getting the foul and still missing.

It's an area that he can improve on, at the same time I appreciate that he's the only one on the team that consistently goes up strong and doesn't shy away from the contact.  Nothing worse than making a shot more difficult because you're avoiding contact, not getting the foul and still missing.

Stevie slams into everyone he can under the rim

[StillWarriors]

It's an area that he can improve on, at the same time I appreciate that he's the only one on the team that consistently goes up strong and doesn't shy away from the contact.  Nothing worse than making a shot more difficult because you're avoiding contact, not getting the foul and still missing.

The Joey Hauser Special.

[Its DJOver]

Stevie slams into everyone he can under the rim

Stevie stops so he can pump fake four times trying to get the defender to bite.  If they do he can time it to get the layup, if they don't he consistently makes his shot move difficult to avoid contact.  Chase goes up strong the first time, every time.  As the OP noted, finishing can use improvement but you know he's gonna attack.

[Elonsmusk]

It's an area that he can improve on, at the same time I appreciate that he's the only one on the team that consistently goes up strong and doesn't shy away from the contact.  Nothing worse than making a shot more difficult because you're avoiding contact, not getting the foul and still missing.

I tend to disagree. Chase frequently contorts his body to avoid contact and often ends up in kind of a 50/50 no man's land where he's not all out attacking, nor all out avoiding contact.

Haven't looked up his FT rate, but I suspect it's lower than what you'd expect for a guy with his athleticism and strength. So it seems there is another level of improvement for Chase in this area, in my opinion.

So, I tend to agree with original poster's take. But, I also agree that on our team, he's one of the "best" at trying to finish through contact. Joplin has gotten better of late. Stevie goes aggressive too.

[Its DJOver]

Chase's FTRate is the highest of the starters with Stevie the only one that's close. I'm not sure what you would "expect" him to be at but his FTRate is at a career high along with his usage while his 3PT attempt rate is at a career low, which suggests that he's more involved in the offense and attacking more. If he could continue to improve his finishing his ceiling raises significantly.

[CTWarrior]

Four of our bigs (Ben, Hamilton, Parham and Owens) are the ones I'd like to see get better when it comes to scoring at the rim.  All need to be stronger with the ball.  I suspect what they actually need is just more physical strength. 

Ross is fine at this.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Chase's FTRate is the highest of the starters with Stevie the only one that's close. I'm not sure what you would "expect" him to be at but his FTRate is at a career high along with his usage while his 3PT attempt rate is at a career low, which suggests that he's more involved in the offense and attacking more. If he could continue to improve his finishing his ceiling raises significantly.

It's the highest on the team not just the starters.  But he only draws 3.7 fouls per 40 which is good not close to great. Imho, he's okay at drawing fouls, i expected him to be better finishing through contact than he has been. My eye test says he tries to be Kam sometimes when he should be more like Burton. Injury may be a factor

[avid1010]

I'm not an advanced stats guy...but didn't we have stats on Kam's efficiency around the rim?  I'd like to see Chase's...

We have the parts to be very good this year when Kam plays well and we hit 3's.  Going to need to see a lot of growth from our underclassmen to be decent next year.

[Hards Alumni]

It's the highest on the team not just the starters.  But he only draws 3.7 fouls per 40 which is good not close to great. Imho, he's okay at drawing fouls, i expected him to be better finishing through contact than he has been. My eye test says he tries to be Kam sometimes when he should be more like Burton. Injury may be a factor

Which is funny because his game isn't like Kam's game at all.  Someone should show him some Wade clips.

[MuggsyB]

I tend to disagree. Chase frequently contorts his body to avoid contact and often ends up in kind of a 50/50 no man's land where he's not all out attacking, nor all out avoiding contact.

Haven't looked up his FT rate, but I suspect it's lower than what you'd expect for a guy with his athleticism and strength. So it seems there is another level of improvement for Chase in this area, in my opinion.

So, I tend to agree with original poster's take. But, I also agree that on our team, he's one of the "best" at trying to finish through contact. Joplin has gotten better of late. Stevie goes aggressive too.

Yes.  He double clutches a lot or whatever you call it.  And often he is off balanced.  Once he blows by his guy I just think he needs to slow down a click and go straight up for the easy bucket.  Our 2pt percentage has not been good in recent games.  Clean that up and we're in business. 

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Chase clearly reads Scoop. Very effective at finishing and drawing fouls tonight.

You're welcome.

[FairWeatherEagle]

I like it when Chase plays with confidence. If he keeps that, I know Shaka will steer him in the right direction.

All 5 starters have upside that overcomes their downside. When I think of each, I think upside.

The questions I have are:
Will they be consistent enough to go final 4.
Will 1 or 2 bench guys rise up and play at their level

[Newsdreams]

Chase went medieval

[tower912]

I like it when Chase plays with confidence. If he keeps that, I know Shaka will steer him in the right direction.

All 5 starters have upside that overcomes their downside. When I think of each, I think upside.

The questions I have are:
Will they be consistent enough to go final 4.
Will 1 or 2 bench guys rise up and play at their level

The great existential questions of our time.  I hope so.

[MuMark]

I'm not an advanced stats guy...but didn't we have stats on Kam's efficiency around the rim?  I'd like to see Chase's...

We have the parts to be very good this year when Kam plays well and we hit 3's.  Going to need to see a lot of growth from our underclassmen to be decent next year.

Chase is 62.5% at the rim
Kam is 66%

[MU82]

Chase is 62.5% at the rim
Kam is 66%

I don't know what the stats say, but the eye test tells me that Kam's percentage has gone down quite a bit the last few weeks while Chases's has gone up.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I don't know what the stats say, but the eye test tells me that Kam's percentage has gone down quite a bit the last few weeks while Chases's has gone up.

Kam's has definitely decreased. I imagine he also has considerably more attempts than Chase.

[Elonsmusk]

I don't know what the stats say, but the eye test tells me that Kam's percentage has gone down quite a bit the last few weeks while Chases's has gone up.

I agree with this. Also, Kam has zero dunks, Chase probably has 20 or so helping to bolster his at the rim percentage.

[MU82]

I agree with this. Also, Kam has zero dunks, Chase probably has 20 or so helping to bolster his at the rim percentage.

Kam's has definitely decreased. I imagine he also has considerably more attempts than Chase.

Great points.

[brewcity77]

Haven't looked up his FT rate, but I suspect it's lower than what you'd expect for a guy with his athleticism and strength. So it seems there is another level of improvement for Chase in this area, in my opinion.

I did look at his free throw rate. His 51.4% for the season is #161 nationally, that's roughly 96th percentile. In Big East play he's at 63.5%, behind only Zuby Ejiofor (65.5%).

Free throw rate isn't really a place he needs to improve.

[Elonsmusk]

I did look at his free throw rate. His 51.4% for the season is #161 nationally, that's roughly 96th percentile. In Big East play he's at 63.5%, behind only Zuby Ejiofor (65.5%).

Free throw rate isn't really a place he needs to improve.

Yeah, I was surprised to see it was that high. Would be interesting to see his at the rim shooting percentage with dunks removed. I think it's the at the rim finish percentage that aren't dunks, nor called fouls, where it feels like Chase would finish at a higher percentage.

But he's obviously performing well at the rim in aggregate between FT Rate and shooting percentage so my initial assessment was wrong.

[brewcity77]

I think the issue is more his usage rate. He's only at 15.5% of shots taken for the season and 14.6% in conference play. Chase is great getting to the line when he does attack, the problem is he doesn't attack enough.