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Uncle Rico

Quote from: Markusquette on January 25, 2025, 10:15:53 AMMaybe I'm asking for too much but given Marquette's prestige and Shaka's past success recruiting big men, I'm disappointed with the PF/C recruits so far. Keeyan, Gold, Amadou, Hamilton and Clark. Yes he has gotten some promising wing talent but it would be nice to have a true big that's more than just serviceable.

Yeah, Gold's 118 offensive rating, 57.8 real shooting, 38% from 3, good defense and 4.2 block % has been disappointing this year
"Well, we're all going to die."

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Markusquette on January 25, 2025, 10:15:53 AMMaybe I'm asking for too much but given Marquette's prestige and Shaka's past success recruiting big men, I'm disappointed with the PF/C recruits so far. Keeyan, Gold, Amadou, Hamilton and Clark. Yes he has gotten some promising wing talent but it would be nice to have a true big that's more than just serviceable.

You just listed 4 guys that have or are redshirting...and Ben Gold.

Ben has gotten drastically better every season. Has a chance to be a 1000 point scorer, but beyond that he's just good.

The others were recruited to make impact further into their careers.
VIOLENCE!

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Markusquette on January 25, 2025, 10:15:53 AMMaybe I'm asking for too much but given Marquette's prestige and Shaka's past success recruiting big men, I'm disappointed with the PF/C recruits so far. Keeyan, Gold, Amadou, Hamilton and Clark. Yes he has gotten some promising wing talent but it would be nice to have a true big that's more than just serviceable.

Gold is more than just serviceable.

Look at Oso's development under Shaka. We'll see what those guys bring next season but I'm not worried at this point.

tower912

Gold is a disappointment?  Wow.  I view Ben as proof of development, as he had the least exposure to high level competition prior to arriving at MU.
As to the others, Clark hasn't played yet. How can you bust on a redshirt?

Itejere, Hamilton, Amadou?  Works in progress.  None played extensively on the circuits, all came to the game late.  Keeyan, all the best.  Hamilton, Amadou, if their ceilings end up being Barro, cool.  We will have lots of long bodies to run out there, rassle with opposing bigs, get some drop offs and putbacks. 
Project big = patience required.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Gold isn't Wemby or Jokic.

Ipso fatso ... disappointing.
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"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

wadesworld

Quote from: Markusquette on January 25, 2025, 10:15:53 AMMaybe I'm asking for too much but given Marquette's prestige and Shaka's past success recruiting big men, I'm disappointed with the PF/C recruits so far. Keeyan, Gold, Amadou, Hamilton and Clark. Yes he has gotten some promising wing talent but it would be nice to have a true big that's more than just serviceable.

Oso was awesome and Gold is very good. I trust one of Royce/Clark/Hamilton will be very good for 30 minutes/game there in 2 years after Gold graduates.

Newsdreams

Goal is National Championship
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Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

MUfan12

Ben has been doing the dirty work and getting the stuffing beat out of him, but is still shooting it well in league play. He's been really playing at a high level.

Newsdreams

Quote from: MUfan12 on January 25, 2025, 12:46:29 PMBen has been doing the dirty work and getting the stuffing beat out of him, but is still shooting it well in league play. He's been really playing at a high level.
Him and Jop have become bangers and defenders in the paint
Goal is National Championship
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Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

tower912

Sorber, Crowl, and Kalkbrenner agree.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Newsdreams

Quote from: tower912 on January 25, 2025, 01:49:32 PMSorber, Crowl, and Kalkbrenner agree.
But they're no Aircraft Carriers
Goal is National Championship
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MU82

Remember when one of the big fears was Gold being in foul trouble?

Well, Ben hasn't even had 4 fouls in a game since Nov. 19.

All while becoming a very good defensive center.
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Newsdreams

Quote from: MU82 on January 25, 2025, 07:00:40 PMRemember when one of the big fears was Gold being in foul trouble?

Well, Ben hasn't even had 4 fouls in a game since Nov. 19.

All while becoming a very good defensive center.
Yo, not a center!
Goal is National Championship
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Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

JakeBarnes

Clark can't even crack the rotation. Complete bust.

Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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BM1090

If Ben improves as much between year 3 and 4 and he did last year, he'll likely be in the NBA. Slightly surprised by the continued weird perception of his game.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: BM1090 on January 26, 2025, 02:01:50 AMIf Ben improves as much between year 3 and 4 and he did last year, he'll likely be in the NBA. Slightly surprised by the continued weird perception of his game.

Are you?  Cooper Flagg could be playing for Marquette and people here would tell you he isn't good enough for the NBA. 
"Well, we're all going to die."

MU82

Quote from: BM1090 on January 26, 2025, 02:01:50 AMIf Ben improves as much between year 3 and 4 and he did last year, he'll likely be in the NBA. Slightly surprised by the continued weird perception of his game.

1. Lots of Eeyores on Scoop

2. Some judge everything by how many points players score

3. He doesn't make every 3, so he's a brick-shooter

4. He's not a "true" center

5. He's no Jokic!
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Newsdreams

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 26, 2025, 09:15:25 AMAre you?  Cooper Flagg could be playing for Marquette and people here would tell you he isn't good enough for the NBA. 
Duke Willard calls him half staff
Goal is National Championship
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Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

tower912

Meh.  The eeyores are currently in abeyance.  That makes critical comments more noticeable.  I miss them.  They force you to defend a position.  I like that.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

DoctorV

Quote from: tower912 on January 26, 2025, 10:19:18 AMMeh.  The eeyores are currently in abeyance.  That makes critical comments more noticeable.  I miss them.  They force you to defend a position.  I like that.

So you're saying scoop has gone a bit snowflake?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Newsdreams on January 26, 2025, 09:58:36 AMDuke Willard calls him half staff

Only shoots 33% from 3

Flagggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggbbbbbbrick
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TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 26, 2025, 09:15:25 AMAre you?  Cooper Flagg could be playing for Marquette and people here would tell you he isn't good enough for the NBA. 

He needs another year to refine his game...to improve his draft status...he'll regret missing out on his senior year...he should be playing for the name on the jersey...
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Newsdreams

Quote from: DoctorV on January 26, 2025, 10:30:11 AMSo you're saying scoop has gone a bit snowflake?
That's passé, woke
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tower912

Quote from: DoctorV on January 26, 2025, 10:30:11 AMSo you're saying scoop has gone a bit snowflake?
Nah.  The snowflakes melted.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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