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The_Blaze

Quote from: RJax55 on December 21, 2024, 07:33:34 PMI think has to do with game intensity and the desire to keep the contest moving in the 1st half.

I rarely can remember a game when the 1st half is called tightly, and the second half contact is let go.

At this point it should be expected. The second half is just going to be called tighter. It is what it is.

I don't recall a half of college basketball officiated as poorly. 

That was the highlight - stopping MU's offensive flow to tell the other teams' bench to stay off the court when they are on the other side of the court and not effecting the game needs to be looked at by whoever looks at this stuff. 
-Been Gold

pbiflyer

Quote from: Newsdreams on December 21, 2024, 09:15:01 PMFeeling wrath is not the Christian way.

Plenty of examples of god's wrath in the bible. Are you saying he's not Christian?  ;D

Newsdreams

Quote from: pbiflyer on December 22, 2024, 09:25:19 PMPlenty of examples of god's wrath in the bible. Are you saying he's not Christian?  ;D
One of 7 deadly sins. Old Testament full of wrath. Jesus came set things straight....
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pbiflyer

Quote from: Newsdreams on December 22, 2024, 09:27:52 PMOne of 7 deadly sins. Old Testament full of wrath. Jesus came set things straight....
Jesus rebelled against his dad?
Dad indulged in one of the 7 deadly sins?
I am good with god indulging his wrathful side and smiting the refs from that game!

Newsdreams

Quote from: pbiflyer on December 22, 2024, 09:33:26 PMJesus rebelled against his dad?
Dad indulged in one of the 7 deadly sins?
I am good with god indulging his wrathful side and smiting the refs from that game!
Jesus set things straight. Wrath poisons your soul. Will pray for you. Holy Trinity....
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

MuggsyB

Quote from: pbiflyer on December 22, 2024, 09:33:26 PMJesus rebelled against his dad?
Dad indulged in one of the 7 deadly sins?
I am good with god indulging his wrathful side and smiting the refs from that game!

I don't see any reason why I can't express some wrath once in awhile.  Especially because it relaxes me pbi. 

Newsdreams

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 23, 2024, 07:29:03 AMI don't see any reason why I can't express some wrath once in awhile.  Especially because it relaxes me pbi. 
Because it is sinful!
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CTWarrior

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 21, 2024, 06:56:21 PMI don't have a problem with a ref missing a call here or there.  Or even a few home whistles.  But what really bothers me is when seemingly the 2nd half is officiated completely differently than the 1st half.  Is it my imagination or does this pretty much happen regularly?  Either call it tight or let them play.  I'm not sure why this is apparently so difficult.
I actually think you are right about tighter officiating in the second half, although you'd have to look up stats to see if it was real.  I think it is an attempt to prevent foul trouble by caller it a little looser in the first half.  Just my opinion with nothing to back it up.
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DienerTime34

I'm 40 years old. I've followed basketball at the high school, college & pro closely since childhood. I can't remember a single time people didn't complain about refs. And if you think it's "just us" or "just Big East refs" I'd encourage you to 1.) Attend a random high school game in your area, & 2.) Search the message boards for all the major college & pro teams.

Either all the refs over the past few decades have been incompetent or corrupt, or the sport is impossible to officiate with consistency. 

StillAWarrior

Quote from: DienerTime34 on December 23, 2024, 10:00:15 AMEither all the refs over the past few decades have been incompetent or corrupt, or the sport is impossible to officiate with consistency. 

Or, "C" -- fans are biased and it's just what fans do.
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1SE

Quote from: DienerTime34 on December 23, 2024, 10:00:15 AMI'm 40 years old. I've followed basketball at the high school, college & pro closely since childhood. I can't remember a single time people didn't complain about refs. And if you think it's "just us" or "just Big East refs" I'd encourage you to 1.) Attend a random high school game in your area, & 2.) Search the message boards for all the major college & pro teams.

Either all the refs over the past few decades have been incompetent or corrupt, or the sport is impossible to officiate with consistency. 

Reffing is hard, but the 2nd half of that game (all the way to the end) was egregiously bad.

Also, I wonder if the rules committee reconsiders those situations. Certainly stopping play because the defensive teams bench is up and not affecting play seems like a major penalty to the offensive team both having to 1)inbound and 2)reinitiating the Offense with a shorter clock. Likewise, if play stops because the shot clock didn't start, it seems like that should also be a free inbound with a full shot clock as the Offense has to re-initiate their O again - not their fault time keeper didn't do their job.
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tower912

Quote from: DienerTime34 on December 23, 2024, 10:00:15 AMI'm 40 years old. I've followed basketball at the high school, college & pro closely since childhood. I can't remember a single time people didn't complain about refs. And if you think it's "just us" or "just Big East refs" I'd encourage you to 1.) Attend a random high school game in your area, & 2.) Search the message boards for all the major college & pro teams.

Either all the refs over the past few decades have been incompetent or corrupt, or the sport is impossible to officiate with consistency. 

There are still MU fans complaining about calls from 50 years ago.
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Myles Powell taught me if you cry hard enough about a call they'll feel bad and let you back into the game
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BrewCity83

Quote from: tower912 on December 21, 2024, 09:09:17 PMPretend they are actual zebras.

Better yet, pretend they are zebra mussels.  They deserve the wrath too...
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Herman Cain

Over the years .I generally don't care about the refs. It is a hard sport to get correct and overall they do a good job. With instant replay reviews most of the game changing calls toward the end of game are accurate.

The only ref I have an issue with is Mr. High Steps as he is more about his own peacocking versus calling a consistent game.
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Shaka Shart

Quote from: Herman Cain on December 23, 2024, 06:07:09 PMOver the years .I generally don't care about the refs. It is a hard sport to get correct and overall they do a good job. With instant replay reviews most of the game changing calls toward the end of game are accurate.

The only ref I have an issue with is Mr. High Steps as he is more about his own peacocking versus calling a consistent game.

Pot kettle etc etc
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

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pbiflyer

Quote from: tower912 on December 23, 2024, 11:43:59 AMThere are still MU fans complaining about calls from 50 years ago.
The technical against Michael Wilson when he shattered the backboard was totally bogus, but not quite 50 years ago.

warriorchick

We need to make the term "Ref Wrath" happen.

Also, if you have trouble saying it, don't drive home.
Have some patience, FFS.

tower912

All the low lifes who invoke it...
Are they the ref wrath riffraff?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

warriorchick

Quote from: tower912 on December 25, 2024, 08:31:51 AMAll the low lifes who invoke it...
Are they the ref wrath riffraff?

Have some patience, FFS.

Scoop Snoop

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Quote from: warriorchick on December 25, 2024, 08:20:56 AMWe need to make the term "Ref Wrath" happen.

Also, if you have trouble saying it, don't drive home.

What's Rafferty got to do with all of this?

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tower912

#71
Benetti to Bill...
That is some rough ref wrath riffraff, Raft.....
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: tower912 on December 25, 2024, 10:28:03 AMBenetti to Bill...
That is some rough ref wrath riffraff, Raft.....

Bravo!

Raft sometimes comments about the officiating, but typically it is "I thought that should have been a play on." And then he gets right back to the game. Then there's Bilas. My Gawd! If he disagrees with a call, he will keep talking about it and make it very clear that he's right, even as he seems to forget there's a game going on and there have been 2-3 possessions while he is pontificating about the foul. 
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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