@ Xavier, @ Providence

[tower912]

Bravo.

[GoldenEagles03]

Also think this Xavier game is a great spot for Tre, Zaide, Damarius, and Royce.

Tre and Zaide because X doesn't have much depth and those two have a chance to come in and make a statement when X may think things will step back with starters off the floor.

Damarius and Royce moreso because of their length and ability to make things happen on offense. They are tough to guard.

[tower912]

Right now, Royce is easy to guard.

[GoldenEagles03]

Right now, Royce is easy to guard.

Not really. He's just missing open shots and not playing defense which makes it tough for him to stay on the floor.

Had a big offensive rebound and putback against the Bulldogs. Very versatile and has had some of his best games on the road @ Iowa State and Maryland.

[Scoop Snoop]

Not really. He's just missing open shots and not playing defense which makes it tough for him to stay on the floor.

Had a big offensive rebound and putback against the Bulldogs. Very versatile and has had some of his best games on the road @ Iowa State and Maryland.

I'm trying to see the connection with what Tower posted and your response. He posted about being easy to guard, and you replied with comments about offensive performance. 

[tower912]

I am a Royce fan.  His future is bright.  Eventually, he will start to get to the next actions, leading to easier shots for him and others.

Right now, he is conscience free catch and shoot.  Freshman.  Not many worries.

[GoldenEagles03]

I'm trying to see the connection with what Tower posted and your response. He posted about being easy to guard, and you replied with comments about offensive performance. 

It is quite easy to see why he is tough to guard.

He's a strong 6'8" player that can stretch the floor and play near the basket. If you can't see that then idk if you've really been watching. He hasn't made outside shots which is hurting him, but missing shots doesn't make him easy to guard. He is a tough matchup.

[Its DJOver]

It is quite easy to see why he is tough to guard.

He's a strong 6'8" player that can stretch the floor and play near the basket. If you can't see that then idk if you've really been watching. He hasn't made outside shots which is hurting him, but missing shots doesn't make him easy to guard. He is a tough matchup.

If he isn't making his outside shots, isn't he by definition NOT stretching the floor?

The next two, like most games will come down to our starting 5 playing well. If we get production from our bench that's great, but we've lost games with bench production and won games with little bench production.  Don't need to make it more complicated than it is.

[GoldenEagles03]

If he isn't making his outside shots, isn't he by definition NOT stretching the floor?

The next two, like most games will come down to our starting 5 playing well. If we get production from our bench that's great, but we've lost games with bench production and won games with little bench production.  Don't need to make it more complicated than it is.

No. His capability of knocking down shots is what stretches the defense out to the perimeter. He also has more Offensive Rebounds than Defensive Rebounds this year. That's a nightmare for a defense...but as Shaka has said...Royce is one of their best offensive players, but it all comes down to defense with him on whether he will see the floor.

[MUfan12]

Gotta fix the zone offense, because I'm sure Miller will have it ready to go.

[Its DJOver]

No. His capability of knocking down shots is what stretches the defense out to the perimeter. He also has more Offensive Rebounds than Defensive Rebounds this year. That's a nightmare for a defense...but as Shaka has said...Royce is one of their best offensive players, but it all comes down to defense with him on whether he will see the floor.

But he hasn't shown this capability, which is why he's being left alone out there.

[Newsdreams]

Gotta fix the zone offense, because I'm sure Miller will have it ready to go.

Making wide open 3s will fix it

[GoldenEagles03]

But he hasn't shown this capability, which is why he's being left alone out there.

He has made almost a 3 per game. He isn't being left alone just to be left alone, he's getting open looks because defenses collapse on Kam.

[Its DJOver]

He has made almost a 3 per game. He isn't being left alone just to be left alone, he's getting open looks because defenses collapse on Kam.

Almost a made 3 per game? LOL, on over 3.5 attempts. Ben stretches the D because he's not shooting 23% from three.  The scouting report on us is that once Ben goes out for either Caedin or Royce, you no longer have to guard our big out to the three point line. 

Royce is further along than I thought he'd be at this point, but he does not stretch the D when he's in.

[GoldenEagles03]

Almost a made 3 per game? LOL, on over 3.5 attempts. Ben stretches the D because he's not shooting 23% from three.  The scouting report on us is that once Ben goes out for either Caedin or Royce, you no longer have to guard our big out to the three point line. 

Royce is further along than I thought he'd be at this point, but he does not stretch the D when he's in.

Almost a made 3 per game? LOL, on over 3.5 attempts. Ben stretches the D because he's not shooting 23% from three.  The scouting report on us is that once Ben goes out for either Caedin or Royce, you no longer have to guard our big out to the three point line. 

Royce is further along than I thought he'd be at this point, but he does not stretch the D when he's in.

That could not be further from the truth with Royce at all lol.

Nobody is just letting him shoot 3s. He is getting open looks because of Kam Jones. Of his 10 made 3s, 7 of them are assisted by Kam...and of his 40 whatever attempts, most come off passes from Kam Jones.

Kam is the best player in the World at the College level and that's why Royce, Joplin, and Ben will continue to get open looks from 3. Defenses have to collapse on Kam.

[wadesworld]

Caedin can play against Hugley. I agree that this is a game that lines up very well for Xavier to get a win in this spot. Swain is a great option to throw at Kam. Their guards are awesome, and they are desperate for a big win. We've won games like this before though and can do it again.

Need Joplin. He should have a great matchup in this one.

Feeling great about this game after reading this post.

[wadesworld]

No. His capability of knocking down shots is what stretches the defense out to the perimeter. He also has more Offensive Rebounds than Defensive Rebounds this year. That's a nightmare for a defense...but as Shaka has said...Royce is one of their best offensive players, but it all comes down to defense with him on whether he will see the floor.

Maybe Royce is missing open shots because teams aren't guarding the perimeter shot, since he's shooting 23% from 3.

Tower is correct.  If Royce has the ball, chances are a shot is going up.  That makes a guy a lot easier to guard than someone who can  make plays for others, make plays off the dribble, etc.

[Its DJOver]

NM, it's not even worth it if you're going to move the goalposts so much.

Kam drawing attention on D, and Royce being a capable outside shooter are two completely different topics. You just spray from the hip finding new unrelated topics to spew nonsense about.

[Galway Eagle]

Kam is the best player in the World at the College level

Clearly you haven't seen my other Alma mater play. Eoin Rockall would decimate jones, NCAA D1 teams are just too scared to play Irish super league teams!

[GoldenEagles03]

NM, it's not even worth it if you're going to move the goalposts so much.

Kam drawing attention on D, and Royce being a capable outside shooter are two completely different topics. You just spray from the hip finding new unrelated topics to spew nonsense about.

There are no goalposts being moved.

It really isn't hard to see or understand. Royce's capability to knock down perimeter shots is what causes his ability to stretch the floor.

The reason he is getting so many open looks isn't because teams are just letting him shoot. Royce isn't the only one getting wide open 3's. The whole team gets wide open 3's...because of Kam...that's the point.

[wadesworld]

There are no goalposts being moved.

It really isn't hard to see or understand. Royce's capability to knock down perimeter shots is what causes his ability to stretch the floor.

The reason he is getting so many open looks isn't because teams are just letting him shoot. Royce isn't the only one getting wide open 3's. The whole team gets wide open 3's...because of Kam...that's the point.

Nobody's worried about a sub 100 freshman who's shooting 23% from 3 shooting 3 pointers.  He's not stretching the floor, even though he's shooting a lot of 3s for the limited minutes he gets.  He'll eventually learn what's a good shot vs. what's an available shot.

[Its DJOver]

Guys, am I on Punke'd?

Royce is in no way stretching the floor.  Teams would encourage a 23% three point shooter to hoist as much as possible.  They would beg for him to take uncontested three's all game long, because he isn't an accomplished outside shooter, and can't stretch the floor.

How low would his percentage have to be on how many attempts per game for you to realize that.

[GoldenEagles03]

There are no goalposts being moved.

It really isn't hard to see or understand. Royce's capability to knock down perimeter shots is what causes his ability to stretch the floor.

The reason he is getting so many open looks isn't because teams are just letting him shoot. Royce isn't the only one getting wide open 3's. The whole team gets wide open 3's...because of Kam...that's the point.

Just for more context on the open 3s.

139 of the teams 354 attempts have been unguarded catch and shoot 3s. Nearly 40%!

Kam Jones effect.

[Its DJOver]

Just for more context on the open 3s.

139 of the teams 354 attempts have been unguarded catch and shoot 3s. Nearly 40%!

Kam Jones effect.

Which is a completely different point.  Kam being a magnet and drawing defense's in does not mean that every other player out there is stretching the defense.

Kam is a magnet and Royce does not stretch the D, two completely unrelated but factual statements.

[Scoop Snoop]

But he hasn't shown this capability, which is why he's being left alone out there.

I guess his reply to me-" idk if you have really been watching" applies to you also.