Active Shooter At Madison School

[NCMUFan]

Heard the gun was posting on X and Instagram weeks before.
Everyone should have seen what the gun had in mind.
Glad they caught the gun and it didn't get away.
Gas, electrocute or inject that gun.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Hardly neutral source but some interesting info into a subculture that is concerning

A subculture of blaming absolutely everything on transgenderism?

[Hards Alumni]

Heard the gun was posting on X and Instagram weeks before.
Everyone should have seen what the gun had in mind.
Glad they caught the gun and it didn't get away.
Gas, electrocute or inject that gun.

Tired ass argument

[Uncle Rico]

Tired ass argument

American culture is rooted in guns and violence. 

[Lennys Tap]

American culture is rooted in guns and violence. 

But not in mass school shootings. That's a relatively new phenomenon.

[wadesworld]

But not in mass school shootings. That's a relatively new phenomenon.

Yeah that only became a thing once guns that could fire 10 rounds per second became easily available to our youth. That's what they had in mind when they wrote the second amendment.

[The Sultan]

Right. There has been shootings at schools going way back in US history. The difference in death toll has generally been because of access to powerful firearms.

[forgetful]

she also (allegedly) quoted the Unabomber's manifesto in hers. This is the second high profile killer in a few weeks who took inspiration from his deranged ramblings. Is there a disturbing resurgence of public interest in the Unabomber I don't know about?

Hopefully this doesn't get taken as political. I don't mean it that way.

But it is clear that there is a bit of a culture shift, particularly with young individuals. They seem disillusioned with the US culture, and want to see disruption/chaos and will openly lobby/vote for anything they see as possibly causing dirsuption/chaos. The extremes in this group want to see the whole system burn to the ground.

These particular people find the Unabomber intriguing and are going back and reading his manifesto and finding a like-minded individual. It is scary.

[cheebs09]

Wasn't there a unabomber documentary on Netflix recently? It's possible people watched that and that's a reason for becoming a little more relevant again.

[forgetful]

Wasn't there a unabomber documentary on Netflix recently? It's possible people watched that and that's a reason for becoming a little more relevant again.

Yes. It brought him to the attention of a lot more young people.

[jesmu84]

Hopefully this doesn't get taken as political. I don't mean it that way.

But it is clear that there is a bit of a culture shift, particularly with young individuals. They seem disillusioned with the US culture, and want to see disruption/chaos and will openly lobby/vote for anything they see as possibly causing dirsuption/chaos. The extremes in this group want to see the whole system burn to the ground.

These particular people find the Unabomber intriguing and are going back and reading his manifesto and finding a like-minded individual. It is scary.

This would be a great discussion topic.

Why are the young disillusioned with US culture?

[Uncle Rico]

This would be a great discussion topic.

Why are the young disillusioned with US culture?

What's our culture?

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

What's our culture?

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[The Sultan]

This would be a great discussion topic.

Why are the young disillusioned with US culture?

I think a significant number of Gen Z and Gen Alpha are incredibly cynical about the United States and the people who hold power. (Politics, business, etc.) They see people who are selfish and in it for themselves and nothing benefitting them.

We are taking about people born just before 9/11, and the decade plus war that followed, the 2008 financial crisis, and our toxic political culture.

Apathy, cynicism with some having a "burn it all down" mentality.

[Uncle Rico]

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It is a legit question.  And your answer might be legit, too.

[forgetful]

I think a significant number of Gen Z and Gen Alpha are incredibly cynical about the United States and the people who hold power. (Politics, business, etc.) They see people who are selfish and in it for themselves and nothing benefitting them.

We are taking about people born just before 9/11, and the decade plus war that followed, the 2008 financial crisis, and our toxic political culture.

Apathy, cynicism with some having a "burn it all down" mentality.

This is a pretty good synopsis. I'll add to it, that they have grown up entirely in the cell phone/internet culture, where I don't think they feel as connected to others as individuals.

That leads them to being more apathetic to everyone around them.

[forgetful]

It is a legit question.  And your answer might be legit, too.

I'm not saying this is every young person, but some view "our culture" as kind of a
"Go get yours" mentality. Cultural selfishness, of do what is best for you, and damn all else.

This in part stems from an immense pressure and expectations on youth to do everything. Do sports, be a member of 50 clubs, volunteer, and get a 4.0, all while trying to project an internet self/profile that fits some ideal not remotely associated with them as an individual. The result is never connecting to anything, having no idea who "they" actually are, and instead living a culture of checking boxes so you can secure your next thing.

I've talked to some youth, who feel alienated by this culture, because they truly crave an actual discussion and connection to someone, but can't.

It is kind of sad, and hard on them, especially the moment they pause from pursuing the next thing in the "Go Get Yours" race and actually reflect on themselves and their life.

[Lennys Tap]

I think a significant number of Gen Z and Gen Alpha are incredibly cynical about the United States and the people who hold power. (Politics, business, etc.) They see people who are selfish and in it for themselves and nothing benefitting them.

We are taking about people born just before 9/11, and the decade plus war that followed, the 2008 financial crisis, and our toxic political culture.

Apathy, cynicism with some having a "burn it all down" mentality.

Reminds me of the late 60s.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

It is a legit question.  And your answer might be legit, too.

Yeah I was being serious

[The Sultan]

Reminds me of the late 60s.

Which is fair.

[Hards Alumni]

I think a significant number of Gen Z and Gen Alpha are incredibly cynical about the United States and the people who hold power. (Politics, business, etc.) They see people who are selfish and in it for themselves and nothing benefitting them.

We are taking about people born just before 9/11, and the decade plus war that followed, the 2008 financial crisis, and our toxic political culture.

Apathy, cynicism with some having a "burn it all down" mentality.

Add millennials to the top of that.  We came of age during 9/11 and the Iraq/Afghanistan wars... and then got to experience the Great Recession directly afterward.  Our "HOPE" was Obama and he was sort of just a regular Democrat. 

[Hards Alumni]

I'm not saying this is every young person, but some view "our culture" as kind of a
"Go get yours" mentality. Cultural selfishness, of do what is best for you, and damn all else.

This in part stems from an immense pressure and expectations on youth to do everything. Do sports, be a member of 50 clubs, volunteer, and get a 4.0, all while trying to project an internet self/profile that fits some ideal not remotely associated with them as an individual. The result is never connecting to anything, having no idea who "they" actually are, and instead living a culture of checking boxes so you can secure your next thing.

I've talked to some youth, who feel alienated by this culture, because they truly crave an actual discussion and connection to someone, but can't.

It is kind of sad, and hard on them, especially the moment they pause from pursuing the next thing in the "Go Get Yours" race and actually reflect on themselves and their life.

Yes, to all of this.  Plus, as you mentioned earlier, everything is amplified due to the pressures of social media.

[reinko]

Add millennials to the top of that.  We came of age during 9/11 and the Iraq/Afghanistan wars... and then got to experience the Great Recession directly afterward.  Our "HOPE" was Obama and he was sort of just a regular Democrat. 

And Obama's legacy will always be healthcare, and let's be honest, millennials, Gen Y and Gen Alpha don't really think about things like coverage for pre-existing conditions and access to quasi affordable average to good health insurance.

[NCMUFan]

The self-justification to take other lives is the utterly horrifying aspect.

[The Sultan]

Add millennials to the top of that.  We came of age during 9/11 and the Iraq/Afghanistan wars... and then got to experience the Great Recession directly afterward.  Our "HOPE" was Obama and he was sort of just a regular Democrat. 

I intentionally did not include millennials because most who I know do not share the same degree of cynicism and apathy as the generations that follow. This is just my anecdotal observation, but millennials still have a degree of optimism.