Not a great day for Luigi

[tower912]

Traditionally, the seven deadly sins are pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony, and sloth.   In modern society, a significant subset has made them their virtues.  You can find them on social media.

[Its DJOver]

No, I'm using it as an example of people who are making the guy out to be a hero and going to extreme levels in doing it. Though it does reflect a segment of society.

This is not exactly anything new in our society though.  What's changed relatively recently is that everyone has access to a platform to broadcast their beliefs to literally anyone that looks for them.

[rocky_warrior]

No, I'm using it as an example of people who are making the guy out to be a hero and going to extreme levels in doing it. Though it does reflect a segment of society.

Sure, there are some, but using a likely AI generated image might not be your best work (I don't tweet, but I'd guess it's not the best source of facts).

I would also guess, that most "sympathizers" aren't actually condoning killing, but rather suffering from the same fallacy that Luigi did - that health insurance (or any other big business) will be exposed or change because a CEO killing. 

But hey, this is really just another gun violence thread (which never end well).

[Jockey]

Let's not forget - guns are fun whether used to murder lots of kids or a CEO.

Outside is America.

[Scoop Snoop]

Traditionally, the seven deadly sins are pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony, and sloth.   In modern society, a significant subset has made them their virtues.  You can find them on social media.

I'm guilty of the last three. You got a problem with that Tower?

[tower912]

I'm guilty of the last three. You got a problem with that Tower?

I'm envious.

[Uncle Rico]

Sure, there are some, but using a likely AI generated image might not be your best work (I don't tweet, but I'd guess it's not the best source of facts).

I would also guess, that most "sympathizers" aren't actually condoning killing, but rather suffering from the same fallacy that Luigi did - that health insurance (or any other big business) will be exposed or change because a CEO killing. 

But hey, this is really just another gun violence thread (which never end well).

Of course nothing will change with regards to insurance or heath care.  This is America, baby.  The oligarchs always win and the people happily take it and blame the poor and downtrodden.  We are a Christian nation, after all

[Hards Alumni]

Tots and pears

Unfortunately, there will probably have to be more blood before any actual change in the for profit health care system occurs.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Sure, there are some, but using a likely AI generated image might not be your best work (I don't tweet, but I'd guess it's not the best source of facts).

I would also guess, that most "sympathizers" aren't actually condoning killing, but rather suffering from the same fallacy that Luigi did - that health insurance (or any other big business) will be exposed or change because a CEO killing. 

But hey, this is really just another gun violence thread (which never end well).

Murder is about the worst crime you can commit as an individual, I assume we all agree.

I'd argue that the shooter and the victim both have blood on their hands and getting murdered in cold blood doesn't exonerate you from the role you played in others dying.

https://www.propublica.org/article/unitedhealth-healthcare-insurance-denial-ulcerative-colitis

I hope that the victims family finds peace for what was done to their beloved family member. They didn't deserve to have their loved one torn away from them like that.

Just as I hope that the thousands of people who are denied care every day are able to find peace and not have to make the hard choice between bankrupting their families due to medical debt and living in pain/accepting their demise.

The man did not deserve to be shot like he did but I find it hard to lecture others on not having a shred of pity for someone who has played a significant role in their eyes in making their lives more challenging. I have personal acquaintances who have experienced excessive hardship over coverage denial, as I'm sure many here do too.

You cannot deny that something that has always kind of bubbled at the surface level of inevitability for the last few years is now thrust into the main spotlight due to the events though.

[forgetful]

Does anyone have any ideas on why they are only charging him with 2nd degree homicide. Seems like it is pretty clear that this was premeditated?

[The Sultan]

Does anyone have any ideas on why they are only charging him with 2nd degree homicide. Seems like it is pretty clear that this was premeditated?

They will likely upgrade the charges as the investigation continues.

[Hards Alumni]

Does anyone have any ideas on why they are only charging him with 2nd degree homicide. Seems like it is pretty clear that this was premeditated?

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6365842422112

Skip to about 1 minute in

[forgetful]

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6365842422112

Skip to about 1 minute in

Thank you. And may be a bit old man screaming at clouds, but I hate how much of the news has to be video now, I so prefer to just read the news.

[Hards Alumni]

yeah same

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Thanks Mark Zuckerberg

[Lennys Tap]

Wait, are you and Billy really projecting a Twitter post to represent society?  hah

A twitter post? I've watched people who are paid for their insights on the human condition sharing these ideas on TV. I've seen organizations protesting outside of courtrooms. I wish it was just a twitter post. Or just a thousand twitter posts.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

I hope you are enjoying Medicare, Lenny.

[Lennys Tap]

I'd argue that the shooter and the victim both have blood on their hands and getting murdered in cold blood doesn't exonerate you from the role you played in others dying.

I guess you could argue that. Just as one could argue that John Wilkes Booth and Abraham Lincoln had blood on their hands. Dumb argument then, dumb argument now.

[Hards Alumni]

I guess you could argue that. Just as one could argue that John Wilkes Booth and Abraham Lincoln had blood on their hands. Dumb argument then, dumb argument now.

That'd be a terrible analogy.  But please, expand.

[Lennys Tap]

That'd be a terrible analogy.  But please, expand.

Pretty obvious, but since you don't get it here's another one:

Climate change extremist murders CEO of Exxon. Poster on Scoop opines that the victim and the killer both have blood on their hands.

Anti abortion extremist shoots a doctor who performs abortions in the back and kills him. Poster on Scoop opines that victim and the killer have blood on their hands.

Bottom line: some people can always find something negative to say about the victim - remember George Floyd? Why? It's beside the point and meaningless except in the sick mind of the murderer.

[rocky_warrior]

A twitter post? I've watched people who are paid for their insights on the human condition sharing these ideas on TV. I've seen organizations protesting outside of courtrooms. I wish it was just a twitter post. Or just a thousand twitter posts.

Well, you did reply to a post about a twitter post.  Anyhow, read my following reply, I think the reactions are more nuanced than you think. 

[Hards Alumni]

Pretty obvious, but since you don't get it here's another one:

Climate change extremist murders CEO of Exxon. Poster on Scoop opines that the victim and the killer both have blood on their hands.

Anti abortion extremist shoots a doctor who performs abortions in the back and kills him. Poster on Scoop opines that victim and the killer have blood on their hands.

Bottom line: some people can always find something negative to say about the victim - remember George Floyd? Why? It's beside the point and meaningless except in the sick mind of the murderer.

These are also bad, but please, more.

Pretty obvious, but since you don't get it here's another one:

Climate change extremist murders CEO of Exxon. Poster on Scoop opines that the victim and the killer both have blood on their hands.

Anti abortion extremist shoots a doctor who performs abortions in the back and kills him. Poster on Scoop opines that victim and the killer have blood on their hands.

Bottom line: some people can always find something negative to say about the victim - remember George Floyd? Why? It's beside the point and meaningless except in the sick mind of the murderer.

Forest 4 da treez

[Hards Alumni]

Murder is about the worst crime you can commit as an individual, I assume we all agree.

I'd argue that the shooter and the victim both have blood on their hands and getting murdered in cold blood doesn't exonerate you from the role you played in others dying.

https://www.propublica.org/article/unitedhealth-healthcare-insurance-denial-ulcerative-colitis

I hope that the victims family finds peace for what was done to their beloved family member. They didn't deserve to have their loved one torn away from them like that.

Just as I hope that the thousands of people who are denied care every day are able to find peace and not have to make the hard choice between bankrupting their families due to medical debt and living in pain/accepting their demise.

The man did not deserve to be shot like he did but I find it hard to lecture others on not having a shred of pity for someone who has played a significant role in their eyes in making their lives more challenging. I have personal acquaintances who have experienced excessive hardship over coverage denial, as I'm sure many here do too.

You cannot deny that something that has always kind of bubbled at the surface level of inevitability for the last few years is now thrust into the main spotlight due to the events though.

Some people beg for death after what they've been through, so no I won't agree.

[tower912]

Pretty obvious, but since you don't get it here's another one:

Climate change extremist murders CEO of Exxon. Poster on Scoop opines that the victim and the killer both have blood on their hands.

Anti abortion extremist shoots a doctor who performs abortions in the back and kills him. Poster on Scoop opines that victim and the killer have blood on their hands.

Bottom line: some people can always find something negative to say about the victim - remember George Floyd? Why? It's beside the point and meaningless except in the sick mind of the murderer.

Jamie did the second example.

Lenny, if I am hearing you correctly, it sounds like you are frustrated about the lies, conspiracy theories, and disregard for your fellow man being exhibited on social media.

In the spirit of the season, WELCOME TO THE PARTY, PAL.

Do yourself and your sanity a favor if it frustrates you so.   Walk away.  Abandon it and cable news.

[The Sultan]

Well, you did reply to a post about a twitter post.  Anyhow, read my following reply, I think the reactions are more nuanced than you think. 

Right. Most people aren't saying "he deserved to die." I think many are simply not finding him to be a sympathetic victim because he's a symbol for many of the things that people find wrong with the health care industry in our country.

"I would never do such a thing, but I get the anger behind it."