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MuggsyB

savethemanatee.org

All of you need to do some soul searching and help protect these wonderful animals. 

Newsdreams

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 07, 2024, 08:52:22 PMsavethemanatee.org

All of you need to do some soul searching and help protect these wonderful animals. 
They're excellent protein for sure
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 07, 2024, 08:52:22 PMsavethemanatee.org

All of you need to do some soul searching and help protect these wonderful animals. 

I just donated to oilspills.org

Need more oil in the water
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Newsdreams

Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

StillAWarrior

Ben's block of Tonje's dunk will be one of my enduring memories of this season. One of my favorite parts is seeing the Badgers' bench jump to their feet because they thought Tonje was going to posterize Ben.

https://x.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1865807899756286208
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

tower912

Ben turning to stare at him for a second was glorious.  Shaka talks about Ben's skill and humility and how he may be too humble.  This syncs with me saying he is as talented as Henry but lacks his self confidence.

That one second stare brings me joy.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MUfan12

Funniest part about it was old man Tonje thinking that dunk attempt would have gotten over the rim.

94Warrior

Quote from: Warrior_2002 on December 07, 2024, 02:24:13 PMSuch weak fouls. Big ten or big east refs? Anyone know? Is it always traveling team or home team refs?

It was James Breeding and his crew.  I would think most MU fans would know this, as he refs about 1/4 (or more) of our games.  He does a lot of games period. 

I thought they missed a few calls for both teams, it was overall fairly poor and balanced.  A typical James Breeding game. 

Don't look now, but he just threw Theo John out of the game!

The Sultan

Yes while certain referees seem to do a lot of games for certain conferences, they aren't "owned" or even employed by conferences. Breeding does a lot of Big Ten and Big East games.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

TAMU, Knower of Ball

I sat in front of a Badger fan who was livid at Tonje's third foul. A brave Marquette fan next to him tried to explain that Tonje had hooked him and that's an offensive foul. The Badger fan was convinced that this wasn't a real rule and asked "is that a Big East rule or something?".
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TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


cheebs09

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 09, 2024, 05:20:51 PMI sat in front of a Badger fan who was livid at Tonje's third foul. A brave Marquette fan next to him tried to explain that Tonje had hooked him and that's an offensive foul. The Badger fan was convinced that this wasn't a real rule and asked "is that a Big East rule or something?".

Must not have been in the original rule book when Bo Ryan invented the game.

The Sultan

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 09, 2024, 05:20:51 PMI sat in front of a Badger fan who was livid at Tonje's third foul. A brave Marquette fan next to him tried to explain that Tonje had hooked him and that's an offensive foul. The Badger fan was convinced that this wasn't a real rule and asked "is that a Big East rule or something?".

That made me laugh.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

It is not difficult to believe a Badger fan did not know that a hook by the offensive player was a foul.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

TallTitan34

Quote from: 94Warrior on December 09, 2024, 03:47:37 PMIt was James Breeding and his crew.  I would think most MU fans would know this, as he refs about 1/4 (or more) of our games.  He does a lot of games period. 

I thought they missed a few calls for both teams, it was overall fairly poor and balanced.  A typical James Breeding game. 

Don't look now, but he just threw Theo John out of the game!

Breeding is far and away the worst in the game. 

Several times I've thrown on close random Big Ten games and he's making terrible calls over there too. 

TallTitan34

#414
Quote from: 94Warrior on December 09, 2024, 03:47:37 PMDon't look now, but he just threw Theo John out of the game!

"Pushing an airborne player"

GTFO Breeding

Believe he also ejected Jop from the Notre Dame game.  Every Marquette ejection I've seen in my +20 years of watching Marquette basketball has come from Breeding.

94Warrior

Quote from: TallTitan34 on December 10, 2024, 08:52:09 AMBreeding is far and away the worst in the game. 

Several times I've thrown on close random Big Ten games and he's making terrible calls over there too. 

I usually make note of who the referees are early in any game. 
At the first whistle on Sat I said, "oh great it's James Breeding, this should be fun."

mileskishnish72

Quote from: TallTitan34 on December 10, 2024, 08:52:09 AMBreeding is far and away the worst in the game. 


Titan, I've admired your takes and basketball knowledge over the years and there have been many times that I've had the exact same thought. But then Pat Driscoll comes strolling into my mind and I's not so sure. Hell would be a game with those two plus High Knees Anderson.

Don't mean to be bitching about refs, most of them are pretty solid but Breeding and Driscoll
are far and away terrible.

Its DJOver

I thought the reffing Saturday (and all year TBH) was fine. Couple of borderline calls that went either way.

What I think was impressive was how Shaka got them to adjust to the reffing. There were times when Tonje was clearly just looking to get fouled and in the first half we were biting on a lot of ball fakes and once you're in the air, the calls going to go against you every time, even if the offensive player initiates contact. We did a significantly better job in the second half of not just letting him linebacker his way into contact where he'd get the whistle.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

TallTitan34

Quote from: mileskishnish72 on December 10, 2024, 10:51:19 AMTitan, I've admired your takes and basketball knowledge over the years and there have been many times that I've had the exact same thought. But then Pat Driscoll comes strolling into my mind and I's not so sure. Hell would be a game with those two plus High Knees Anderson.

Don't mean to be bitching about refs, most of them are pretty solid but Breeding and Driscoll
are far and away terrible.


Driscoll can rile me up but I feel like he is consistent at least.  He will make the same call (good or bad) on both teams throughout the game.   

Breeding can just completely change how he is calling a game from possession to possession. 

TallTitan34

Another Breeding classic:

Northwestern coach Chris Collins drew a technical foul and was ejected with 1.7 seconds left when he walked onto the court, yelling furiously at one referee with the ball still in play.

After being restrained by one of his players, Collins calmed down and congratulated Edey and Purdue coach Matt Painter on his way off the floor, then gestured to the booing crowd to get louder. The Boilermakers were given four technical free throws just before the final buzzer.

"I'm not going to go into the officiating. We have great officiating," Collins said, noting Purdue took 38 more free throws than the Wildcats. "I just don't know if I've ever seen a box score like that."


https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/recap/_/gameId/401600361

94Warrior

Quote from: TallTitan34 on December 10, 2024, 11:10:24 AMDriscoll can rile me up but I feel like he is consistent at least.  He will make the same call (good or bad) on both teams throughout the game.   

Breeding can just completely change how he is calling a game from possession to possession.

On the whole, the officials in Saturday's game weren't terrible.  A few bad calls stand out. 
1. The foul called on Chase when he doubled across from the MU bench, got a deflection, and a clean steal. 
2. When Stevie's arm was grabbed and pulled when trying to corral a loose ball right in front of the MU bench.  It appeared with all the contact, he jammed his wrist.  Ball out of bounds to the rodents.
3. MU clearly traveled (i forget who), the entire FF groaned, no whistle, led to a bucket for us.
4. When Chase 'tied up' Tonje on a drive/shot across from MU's bench.  It happened so fast, not sure his hand was ever on the ball.  Either a block or a foul, but the ball never stopped, definitely not a jump ball.
I'm sure there were others, but those stood out to me.  Definitely didn't have any bearing on the outcome.

TallTitan34

Quote from: 94Warrior on December 10, 2024, 02:22:38 PM3. MU clearly traveled (i forget who), the entire FF groaned, no whistle, led to a bucket for us.

Believe that was Caedin that traveled.

cheebs09

Joplin had a few. Including one where he corralled the ball and started in transition without dribbling. I think even LeBron would have called that one a travel.

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