2025 Coaching Carousel

[The Sultan]

Meh, this pony needs another trick imo.  The portal and NIL makes this moot.  Now that he can't bemoan players being punished for transferring or not being paid, he's complaining that "players are vilified for entering the transfer portal."  No, they're really not, and if they are it still pales in comparison to how Willard is being universally skewered rn.  Bilas is inventing a harm that doesn't really exist here just so he can keep beating this drum.

Coaches complain about the portal and NIL all the time.

[bluebodega]

Mike Magpayo is a good hire for Fordham.

Prior to Magpayo's arrival, UC Riverside had a losing record for 2 decades since transitioning from D2 to D1. He's had a winning record as their head coach in 4 of 5 seasons, finishing 3rd in the Big West the only 3 times they have ever done it. He also coached them to their only postseason appearance. And, he has done it all during a difficult financial time at their school.

Magpayo worked with Kyle Smith twice, Todd Golden and some others including the current Columbia HC as well as the current GM of the Cleveland Cavaliers. NYC, The Bay Area, Carolinas and Los Angeles. (He was a long time (10 years) Los Angeles high school coach before he coached college ball.

There are some good coaches in the Big West, Russell Turner, Eric Olen, etc...

[HutchwasClutch]

Meh, this pony needs another trick imo.  The portal and NIL makes this moot.  Now that he can't bemoan players being punished for transferring or not being paid, he's complaining that "players are vilified for entering the transfer portal."  No, they're really not, and if they are it still pales in comparison to how Willard is being universally skewered rn.  Bilas is inventing a harm that doesn't really exist here just so he can keep beating this drum.

Right on.  "But let's not apply these ridiculous rules to the players."  WTF year is he living in?!  Bilas is a pompous a-hole.

[HutchwasClutch]

Coaches complain about the portal and NIL all the time.

Yes, that there are no rules and anything goes.  Not the existence of these. 

[Viper]

Cronin's buyout is $10 million, fwiw.  At least after Monday, it would be $10 million.  And he's a pain to deal with, too.

Beard fits fine in Mississippi for a lot of reasons

reasons, such as?

[The Sultan]

Yes, that there are no rules and anything goes.  Not the existence of these. 

Right. Bilas' point is that coaches do this all the time. Yes there are contracts in place, but that doesn't prevent negotiations from happening.

Bilas is also right that the only way to prevent this is to make them employees.

[MU82]

Meh, this pony needs another trick imo.  The portal and NIL makes this moot.  Now that he can't bemoan players being punished for transferring or not being paid, he's complaining that "players are vilified for entering the transfer portal."  No, they're really not, and if they are it still pales in comparison to how Willard is being universally skewered rn.  Bilas is inventing a harm that doesn't really exist here just so he can keep beating this drum.

Agree to disagree. Plenty of people, from NCAA bigwigs to coaches to ex-coaches in the media to fans, including some here on Scoop, still vilify players for getting paid and having freedom of movement. And Willard 100% deserves to be universally skewered.

Right. Bilas' point is that coaches do this all the time. Yes there are contracts in place, but that doesn't prevent negotiations from happening.

Bilas is also right that the only way to prevent this is to make them employees.

Yep, and yep.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Meh, this pony needs another trick imo.  The portal and NIL makes this moot.  Now that he can't bemoan players being punished for transferring or not being paid, he's complaining that "players are vilified for entering the transfer portal."  No, they're really not, and if they are it still pales in comparison to how Willard is being universally skewered rn.  Bilas is inventing a harm that doesn't really exist here just so he can keep beating this drum.

No one vilifies players for portalling? That's not close to accurate statement

[Uncle Rico]

reasons, such as?

It's America's toilet.

[MuggsyB]

Nm

[WhiteTrash]

No one vilifies players for portalling? That's not close to accurate statement

Been doing it way before "portal" was a thing. Fans do it to free agents in other sports. It's as ubiquitous as vilifying refs, coaches, politicians, etc. It will always be here.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Been doing it way before "portal" was a thing. Fans do it to free agents in other sports. It's as ubiquitous as vilifying refs, coaches, politicians, etc. It will always be here.

Refs, sure. Politicians are usually vilified for a reason.  Coaches and free agents don't get it nearly as bad as players who transfer

[Uncle Rico]

Refs, sure. Politicians are usually vilified for a reason.  Coaches and free agents don't get it nearly as bad as players who transfer

That's because players get a free education and are there to entertain me

[WhiteTrash]

Refs, sure. Politicians are usually vilified for a reason.  Coaches and free agents don't get it nearly as bad as players who transfer

It's all subjective.

[The Sultan]

It's all subjective.

What does that even mean?

Anyway, professional coaches have long ago come to grips with free agency. College coaches are acting like their whole world is ending with the transfer portal and NIL.

[Pakuni]

Refs, sure. Politicians are usually vilified for a reason.  Coaches and free agents don't get it nearly as bad as players who transfer

Eh ... it's completely localized, though.
Nobody outside of Wisconsin fandom is mad when a Badger transfers. Some fanbases even celebrate it. I don't recall a lot of rage or tears on Scoop last year when Storr and Hepburn left Madison.
The entire college basketball-watching country (outside of Nova) is bashing Kevin Willard.

[WhiteTrash]

What does that even mean?

Anyway, professional coaches have long ago come to grips with free agency. College coaches are acting like their whole world is ending with the transfer portal and NIL.

Can you give me five examples where Shaka has acted like his whole world is ending?

Maybe you are painting with broad strokes to make your subjective point? Maybe?

[Uncle Rico]

Can you give me five examples where Shaka has acted like his whole world is ending?

Maybe you are painting with broad strokes to make your subjective point? Maybe?

Whatever the case, ratings are up and the level of play has been as high as it's been for a long time.  Long live the portal.  Guess the old heads who retired bemoaning the sport they once knew were wrong.  Like usual.

[The Sultan]

Can you give me five examples where Shaka has acted like his whole world is ending?

Maybe you are painting with broad strokes to make your subjective point? Maybe?

Shaka? No. But you are being disingenous if you don't admit that you can easily Google coaches complaining about the current state of basketball.

[WhiteTrash]

Guess the old heads who retired bemoaning the sport they once knew were wrong.  Like usual.

You could also say they were right...to choose retirement.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Eh ... it's completely localized, though.
Nobody outside of Wisconsin fandom is mad when a Badger transfers. Some fanbases even celebrate it. I don't recall a lot of rage or tears on Scoop last year when Storr and Hepburn left Madison.
The entire college basketball-watching country (outside of Nova) is bashing Kevin Willard.

Maybe if you limit your scope to individual transfers. But it's not hard to find a lot of examples about transfers in general. Kevin Willard May be catching some flak but most coaching changes go by without any significant negative commentary. No ones criticizing coaches in general for switching jobs (except about the hyprocrisy when compared to players).

Also Willard isnt getting flak for switching jobs. It's for how he's handled it. If a player did similar they would be similarly criticized and reasonable people wouldn't take issue with it

[Uncle Rico]

You could also say they were right...to choose retirement.

Indeed, and I don't blame them.  They don't owe it to anyone to adapt to the new rules. 

But failing to understand the sport constantly evolves and will move on without them is pure arrogance.  It's no different than old baseball players complaining about modern baseball. 

[The Sultan]

Indeed, and I don't blame them.  They don't owe it to anyone to adapt to the new rules. 

But failing to understand the sport constantly evolves and will move on without them is pure arrogance.  It's no different than old baseball players complaining about modern baseball. 

College basketball just isn't the same without Roy Williams and Tony Bennett roaming the sidelines.

[WhiteTrash]

Shaka? No. But you are being disingenous if you don't admit that you can easily Google coaches complaining about the current state of basketball.

There are always complaints. Name me one sport where someone is not complaining about the current state of the sport?

You have to admit yourself that the validity of the complaint is usually subjective. Some are complaining about the timing of the portal opening; are they "old head" whiners or valid? There are people on both sides.

[The Sultan]

There are always complaints. Name me one sport where someone is not complaining about the current state of the sport?

You have to admit yourself that the validity of the complaint is usually subjective. Some are complaining about the timing of the portal opening; are they "old head" whiners or valid? There are people on both sides.

So, you've decided to go the disingenous route. Gotcha.