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onepost

The overwhelming sentiment from Trilly, Villanova fans there seems to be "this is a wild rumor, doubt it happens". But at least we're not completely caught off guard if it gains any traction.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: onepost on March 22, 2025, 10:44:44 PMOn discord, Trilly Donovan said he'd heard some donors at Villanova were pushing for Shaka. Would be stunned if it happened, don't think it'll happen, but just wanted to pass along.

Now that would be funny.
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Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 23, 2025, 12:21:25 AMHe already finalized with Iowa.
I know.. He is just very very very good.

CountryRoads

No clue what Shaka actually makes but every search turns up about 3M. If that's the case, he should definitely play hardball with MU and get a raise up to 4.5-5M. Some will laugh due to the recent loss, but it appears he's pretty underpaid relative to some other coaches. If MU is serious about basketball, they need to pay their coach like a top tier program.

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Quote from: CountryRoads on March 23, 2025, 12:29:03 AMNo clue what Shaka actually makes but every search turns up about 3M. If that's the case, he should definitely play hardball with MU and get a raise up to 4.5-5M. Some will laugh due to the recent loss, but it appears he's pretty underpaid relative to some other coaches. If MU is serious about basketball, they need to pay their coach like a top tier program.

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willie warrior

Quote from: CountryRoads on March 23, 2025, 12:29:03 AMNo clue what Shaka actually makes but every search turns up about 3M. If that's the case, he should definitely play hardball with MU and get a raise up to 4.5-5M. Some will laugh due to the recent loss, but it appears he's pretty underpaid relative to some other coaches. If MU is serious about basketball, they need to pay their coach like a top tier program.
He is getting paid well. Of course we all would like more.
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Shaka was a 7 seed, finished 4th in the the Big East, and lost in the first round. MU fans understand why Texas wanted him gone then. Programs like Virginia, Villanova, last year Kentucky, Louisville, and Michigan are all bigger and better than having any interest in someone like Shaka who can't perform to seed. We're stuck with him.

Dish

Quote from: CountryRoads on March 23, 2025, 12:29:03 AMNo clue what Shaka actually makes but every search turns up about 3M. If that's the case, he should definitely play hardball with MU and get a raise up to 4.5-5M. Some will laugh due to the recent loss, but it appears he's pretty underpaid relative to some other coaches. If MU is serious about basketball, they need to pay their coach like a top tier program.


$3M is his salary, second highest paid in the Big East, 44th highest paid overall. MU does spend $17.8 M on men's basketball, that's the fourth highest spend of any program in the country, so I would argue MU is quite serious about basketball.

For some comparison, Shaka makes more than Mark Few and Jon Scheyer. Certainly can argue that he is underpaid relative to some coaches above him that make more, but none of those programs spend what MU does on men's basketball as a whole.

cheebs09

Quote from: Dish on March 23, 2025, 11:10:03 AM$3M is his salary, second highest paid in the Big East, 44th highest paid overall. MU does spend $17.8 M on men's basketball, that's the fourth highest spend of any program in the country, so I would argue MU is quite serious about basketball.

For some comparison, Shaka makes more than Mark Few and Jon Scheyer. Certainly can argue that he is underpaid relative to some coaches above him that make more, but none of those programs spend what MU does on men's basketball as a whole.

I'm also not sure what makes up that $3M number. I remember Buzz had a relatively low base salary, but "Buzz LLC" had. Lot of bonus payments and other stuff that made up his compensation.

tower912

The bonus payments were bribes from a secret cabal of scoopers to get him to play Derek Wilson over John Dawson.
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Quote from: Dish on March 23, 2025, 11:10:03 AM$3M is his salary, second highest paid in the Big East, 44th highest paid overall. MU does spend $17.8 M on men's basketball, that's the fourth highest spend of any program in the country, so I would argue MU is quite serious about basketball.

For some comparison, Shaka makes more than Mark Few and Jon Scheyer. Certainly can argue that he is underpaid relative to some coaches above him that make more, but none of those programs spend what MU does on men's basketball as a whole.

That spend has important context.  Most of it is from renting out the Fiserv. That's a high cost that most universities don't have to account for.  So high spend,  but high costs that other universities don't have.  MU is serious about hoops, but let's not pretend that we're flush with walking around money that all but three other programs have.
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Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 23, 2025, 11:52:18 AMThat spend has important context.  Most of it is from renting out the Fiserv. That's a high cost that most universities don't have to account for.  So high spend,  but high costs that other universities don't have.  MU is serious about hoops, but let's not pretend that we're flush with walking around money that all but three other programs have.


Which carries over into NIL.  Don't pretend that MU has unlimited NIL funds.   Think of MU as the Brewers or Packers.   Talking about going out and dropping a 7 figure bag on an aircraft carrier is no more likely than the Brewers going after Ohtani or the Packers going after Mahomes.
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Dish

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 23, 2025, 11:52:18 AMThat spend has important context.  Most of it is from renting out the Fiserv. That's a high cost that most universities don't have to account for.  So high spend,  but high costs that other universities don't have.  MU is serious about hoops, but let's not pretend that we're flush with walking around money that all but three other programs have.

It definitely does have important context. MU spends a lot to lease out Fiserv because men's basketball is very profitable by playing there! If it wasn't, MU would spend far less on rent to go play at The Arena. Men's basketball last year generated $7.6 M in profits. Yes, I understand Men's basketball has to fund other athletic programs, but on its own, it would be flush with money.

wadesworld

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 23, 2025, 11:52:18 AMThat spend has important context.  Most of it is from renting out the Fiserv. That's a high cost that most universities don't have to account for.  So high spend,  but high costs that other universities don't have.  MU is serious about hoops, but let's not pretend that we're flush with walking around money that all but three other programs have.

Exactly.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: cheebs09 on March 23, 2025, 11:19:11 AMI'm also not sure what makes up that $3M number. I remember Buzz had a relatively low base salary, but "Buzz LLC" had. Lot of bonus payments and other stuff that made up his compensation.

I heard he was skimming from the kids program he was running.
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willie warrior

Quote from: cheebs09 on March 23, 2025, 07:39:35 AMTom Crean if he hears MU opening up.


Either that, or he might just be visualizing one of the Harbaughs asses to take a bite out of.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: willie warrior on March 23, 2025, 12:19:44 PMEither that, or he might just be visualizing one of the Harbaughs asses to take a bite out of.

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wadesworld

Quote from: Dish on March 23, 2025, 12:18:07 PMIt definitely does have important context. MU spends a lot to lease out Fiserv because men's basketball is very profitable by playing there! If it wasn't, MU would spend far less on rent to go play at The Arena. Men's basketball last year generated $7.6 M in profits. Yes, I understand Men's basketball has to fund other athletic programs, but on its own, it would be flush with money.

But there are a lot of programs that are profitable playing where they play and don't have to rent the arena. Take out what we pay to rent an arena and we aren't a top 5 or 10 or 20 spending basketball program. A huge chunk of what we spend has to go somewhere that most programs don't have to put it.

GoldenEagles03

Sean Miller apparently the top candidate for the Longhorns now that Terry has been fired.

Big East with a lot of potential moving parts again. The continuity should continue to be a massive advantage for us.
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