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forgetful

He got everyone talking about Georgetown. Players will like the attitude. I lean towards nice job.

CountryRoads

Kind of weird timing on that comment. Especially when you have a team that looks like they'd get clapped by any high major.

Georgetown's first 8 games:

1. 🧁
2. 🧁
3. ☘️
4. 🧁
5. 🧁
6. 🧁
7. 🧁
8. 🧁

Got completely outclassed by the one non-cupcake.

dgies9156

Quote from: CountryRoads on November 23, 2024, 03:09:12 PMKind of weird timing on that comment. Especially when you have a team that looks like they'd get clapped by any high major.

Georgetown's first 8 games:

1. 🧁
2. 🧁
3. ☘️
4. 🧁
5. 🧁
6. 🧁
7. 🧁
8. 🧁

Got completely outclassed by the one non-cupcake.

Which game was that? Looks like eight cupcakes to me.

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Newsdreams

Goal is National Championship

Lennys Tap

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 23, 2024, 08:07:26 PMNo class, aina?

Yeah, kind of weird. Other than maybe some hard feelings over Gtown poaching Epps are there major hard feelings between Cooley and Underwood?

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 23, 2024, 08:41:24 PMYeah, kind of weird. Other than maybe some hard feelings over Gtown poaching Epps are there major hard feelings between Cooley and Underwood?

Apparently Illinois poached Epps from Prov is what I heard.

Either way. Crazy comment by Ed and shows how far he's fallen
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Tyler COLEk

Cooley's ego has always been huge, but it's been verging on psychotic since moving to Georgetown. He has about 16 months to turn things around or he's going down in spectacular fashion.

JWags85

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 23, 2024, 08:46:21 PMApparently Illinois poached Epps from Prov is what I heard.

Either way. Crazy comment by Ed and shows how far he's fallen

That's sort of where my head was at.  He took 10+ years of goodwill and positive vibes about him from the rest of the BE and lit it on fire in 18 months.  Went from an opposing coach most people liked and respected to another shiesty douche of a CBB coach.

Maybe refrain from calling other programs names when you best win at Georgetown, other than a 13-20 ND team last year, is Fairfield and you have 1 NCAA win over a team seeded higher than a 12 in 20 years of being a HC.

MU82

One of the most overrated coaches of recent times.
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HutchwasClutch

I didn't know coaches must only say nice things about other schools or else they're trash. Unless you're an IL or Underwood fan, I don't understand why this would bother anyone. 

Tyler COLEk

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on November 24, 2024, 08:04:36 AMI didn't know coaches must only say nice things about other schools or else they're trash. Unless you're an IL or Underwood fan, I don't understand why this would bother anyone. 


It's attention seeking and a distraction from his own team.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on November 24, 2024, 08:04:36 AMI didn't know coaches must only say nice things about other schools or else they're trash. Unless you're an IL or Underwood fan, I don't understand why this would bother anyone. 

I don't think you have to say NICE things, but that doesn't mean you go out of your way to insult another program. But yeah, I doubt this would even bother Brad Underwood who arguably is a better coach anyway.


Quote from: MU82 on November 24, 2024, 01:30:01 AMOne of the most overrated coaches of recent times.

He is a good, but not great coach. Winning at Providence isn't easy. And he had the best record there since Pitino - better than the likes of Rick Barnes. Do people think he is rated higher than that?

Georgetown had to back up the Brinks truck to hire the guy, but they would have had to do that no matter what because  not many would leave a good gig to go to Georgetown. And I think their problems lie way deeper than the coach. They're just an irrelevant program and have been for a long while.
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NCMUFan

#14
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on November 24, 2024, 08:04:36 AMI didn't know coaches must only say nice things about other schools or else they're trash. Unless you're an IL or Underwood fan, I don't understand why this would bother anyone. 

I suppose one can say those type of things.  But aren't there more important things to talk about?

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: NCMUFan on November 24, 2024, 08:29:54 AMGuess one can say those type of things.  But aren't there more important things to talk about?
Quote from: NCMUFan on November 24, 2024, 08:29:54 AMGuess one can say those type of things.  But aren't there more important things to talk about?

Aren't there are more important things to care about? 

And to Sultan's point, this didn't bother Underwood.  He completely dismissed it. 

I think these programs and coaches that make and generate gobs of money can deal with this like big boys. 

Anyone offended by this is looking for something to be offended by. 
 

NCMUFan

Hardly offended.
Just glad our coach has more class than that.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on November 24, 2024, 08:41:05 AMAren't there are more important things to care about? 

And to Sultan's point, this didn't bother Underwood.  He completely dismissed it. 

I think these programs and coaches that make and generate gobs of money can deal with this like big boys. 

Anyone offended by this is looking for something to be offended by. 
 
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on November 24, 2024, 08:41:05 AMAren't there are more important things to care about? 

And to Sultan's point, this didn't bother Underwood.  He completely dismissed it. 

I think these programs and coaches that make and generate gobs of money can deal with this like big boys. 

Anyone offended by this is looking for something to be offended by. 
 

Who was offended?

Everyone just thinks it was a stupid comment by an overrated cosch

It was.
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cheebs09

Before reading where Epps came from, I thought he was talking about PC and had a death wish.

Still an odd comment and the only benefit might be steering the narrative away from how bad Georgetown is.

TallTitan34

Cooley is in his Hogan-NWO era after years of eat your vitamins and say your prayers.

Give it a few years. I'm sure he will turn face again.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: cheebs09 on November 24, 2024, 10:23:01 AMBefore reading where Epps came from, I thought he was talking about PC and had a death wish.

Still an odd comment and the only benefit might be steering the narrative away from how bad Georgetown is.

Remember way back when one of our guys (I think it was JJ) in the post game interview on the Milwaukee court said "Georgetown was lazy"  ;D  GT was still a good team back then. If I recall, our visit to DC later that season did not end well.
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Tyler COLEk

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Quote from: HutchwasClutch on November 24, 2024, 08:41:05 AMAren't there are more important things to care about? 

And to Sultan's point, this didn't bother Underwood.  He completely dismissed it. 

I think these programs and coaches that make and generate gobs of money can deal with this like big boys. 

Anyone offended by this is looking for something to be offended by. 
 
Nobody said they're offended by what Cooley said. What are you on about?

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Tyler COLEk on November 24, 2024, 01:38:34 PMNobody said they're offended by what Cooley said. What are you on about?
I started this thread and never was offended or thought it would be offensive. I just found it interesting and didn't understand where Cooley was coming from.

Seems like Hutch is the one looking too much into this.

Warriors4ever

Ok for full disclosure, my JD is from Illinois, so they are kind of my second team, though I don't follow them like I do MU ( though their NCAA Elite Eight win over Arizona was one of the greatest games I have ever attended, bar none).  I don't know if offended would be the right word, but I am certainly mystified, puzzled, and think it was a really stupid comment. I hope it becomes bulletin board material for the Illini.  I can't imagine what this Board would be saying if someone said that about MU.

THRILLHO

Quote from: Warriors4ever on November 24, 2024, 02:35:15 PMOk for full disclosure, my JD is from Illinois, so they are kind of my second team, though I don't follow them like I do MU ( though their NCAA Elite Eight win over Arizona was one of the greatest games I have ever attended, bar none).  I don't know if offended would be the right word, but I am certainly mystified, puzzled, and think it was a really stupid comment. I hope it becomes bulletin board material for the Illini.  I can't imagine what this Board would be saying if someone said that about MU.
It's hard to imagine it even working as bulletin board material: "The coach of a really bad team said something bad about us! Let's crush them!". "Oh, hmm, looks like we don't play them this year."

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: THRILLHO on November 24, 2024, 04:50:43 PMIt's hard to imagine it even working as bulletin board material: "The coach of a really bad team said something bad about us! Let's crush them!". "Oh, hmm, looks like we don't play them this year."

"We'll get that guy...someday!!!"
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Warriors4ever on November 24, 2024, 02:35:15 PMI can't imagine what this Board would be saying if someone said that about MU.

This over anything. Random poster on a badger forum posts something and this board blows up. If a current head coach crapped on us as a program out of the blue this board (including everyone saying "these people are looking for reasons to be offended") would go mental.
Maigh Eo for Sam

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Nah. Maybe Muggsy, but most people would just be perplexed.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 25, 2024, 07:57:52 AMNah. Maybe Muggsy, but most people would just be perplexed.

Out of curiosity I peeked over at the Illinois fan board.  They currently have a thread with over 100 posts on it. Most are perplexed but definitely a few hostile responses as well
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TAMU

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The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 25, 2024, 08:09:37 AMOut of curiosity I peeked over at the Illinois fan board.  They currently have a thread with over 100 posts on it. Most are perplexed but definitely a few hostile responses as well

Yeah there is always going to be a few knuckleheads, but most here would be fine.
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reinko

I think it just adds to story of how Cooley has chosen to conduct himself the last few years.  Dude was being paid a crap-ton was the king of Providence, could walk the campus and be loved, could walk into any Federal Hill restaurant and be given a table, and built a program that was routinely in the top 1/4 of the one the best conferences in the nation. 

And now?  A team that routinely gets it's ass kicked, an apathetic student and alumni base, and my guess is he lives in the suburbs of Virginia or Maryland in a giant house regretting leaving Providence and became bitter, butt-hurt, and outbursts like this shows it.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Maybe he just wanted a new challenge.
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rocky_warrior

Or a new place to live due to "family issues"...

TallTitan34

Wonder if it was an attempt to cool things down with the Providence fans.  I assume they are the primary group pissed at Illinois for getting Epps to decommit.

I don't think anything will ever cool down Providence fans though.

cheebs09

Quote from: TallTitan34 on November 25, 2024, 09:16:40 AMWonder if it was an attempt to cool things down with the Providence fans.  I assume they are the primary group pissed at Illinois for getting Epps to decommit.

I don't think anything will ever cool down Providence fans though.

I think short of him getting fired and PC being in a better off position, it won't cool down for awhile.

Sort of like the Crean/Buzz transition.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: cheebs09 on November 25, 2024, 09:25:56 AMI think short of him getting fired and PC being in a better off position, it won't cool down for awhile.

Sort of like the Crean/Buzz transition.

Are we sure PC is in a better position?
VIOLENCE!

Galway Eagle

Quote from: reinko on November 25, 2024, 08:28:42 AMDude was being paid a crap-ton was the king of Providence, could walk the campus and be loved

Sounds like that was part of the problem
Maigh Eo for Sam

cheebs09

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 25, 2024, 09:35:23 AMAre we sure PC is in a better position?

I doubt it. That's why I don't see them getting over it for awhile.

mug644

Quote from: cheebs09 on November 25, 2024, 09:25:56 AMI think short of him getting fired and PC being in a better off position, it won't cool down for awhile.

Sort of like the Crean/Buzz transition.

What is PC fanbase's take on Cooley's departure? Do they feel somewhat put down, as MU fans did when Crean declared "It's Indiana, it's Indiana"? If so, resentment will linger like it has here, even if (especially if?) Cooley, like Crean, might come to somewhat regret leaving. Certainly there was high emotion when G'town played at Providence last year.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 25, 2024, 08:33:02 AMOr a new place to live due to "family issues"...

From what I've heard,  that is just bitter PC fans spreading rumors.

Ceiling is much higher at Georgetown than Providence and IIRC his daughter was a student at Georgetown when he made the move. Not as fun of a story not probably a more truthful one.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: mug644 on November 25, 2024, 10:11:21 AMWhat is PC fanbase's take on Cooley's departure?

They're mad. I think leaving for a conference rival is way more of an issue than going from Marquette to Indiana.

Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

TallTitan34

In fairness, Providence fans seemed to be a bunch of red asses even before Cooley jumped ship.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 25, 2024, 10:27:51 AMFrom what I've heard,  that is just bitter PC fans spreading rumors.

Ceiling is much higher at Georgetown than Providence and IIRC his daughter was a student at Georgetown when he made the move. Not as fun of a story not probably a more truthful one.

Daughter graduated the spring he announced the move.  And I think you're being a little naive.  But yes, I don't have hard proof of the rumors.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 25, 2024, 10:31:47 AMDaughter graduated the spring he announced the move.  And I think you're being a little naive.  But yes, I don't have hard proof of the rumors.

Not believing an internet rumor with no proof trafficked almost exclusively by bitter PC fans makes me naive?
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


reinko

Quote from: mug644 on November 25, 2024, 10:11:21 AMWhat is PC fanbase's take on Cooley's departure? Do they feel somewhat put down, as MU fans did when Crean declared "It's Indiana, it's Indiana"? If so, resentment will linger like it has here, even if (especially if?) Cooley, like Crean, might come to somewhat regret leaving. Certainly there was high emotion when G'town played at Providence last year.

My buddies who are PC fans were more furious they were duped by Cooley, and believed his BS, although they know they were being irrational.  Rather than the Crean to IU, I liken to more the Buzz to VT.  People (myself included) drank and ate up his BS, and felt weirdly slighted when he left.

But they are relishing in every tough moment Cooley has, and seem quite happy with the Kim English era.  To this day when I see Buzz losing a game, or whining about not getting into the tournament, I tell myself good riddance.

TallTitan34

Quote from: reinko on November 25, 2024, 10:47:44 AMMy buddies who are PC fans were more furious they were duped by Cooley, and believed his BS, although they know they were being irrational.  Rather than the Crean to IU, I liken to more the Buzz to VT.  People (myself included) drank and ate up his BS, and felt weirdly slighted when he left.

But they are relishing in every tough moment Cooley has, and seem quite happy with the Kim English era.  To this day when I see Buzz losing a game, or whining about not getting into the tournament, I tell myself good riddance.

I'll never be mad at a person for taking another job. 

What pisses me off, however, is Buzz sh!tting all over the school that took a chance on him and the Big East after his departure.  Crean, on the other hand, has always had nothing but great things to say about Marquette from the moment he left.  Same with Wojo.

Character revealed.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: TallTitan34 on November 25, 2024, 10:53:15 AMI'll never be mad at a person for taking another job. 

What pisses me off, however, is Buzz sh!tting all over the school that took a chance on him and the Big East after his departure.  Crean, on the other hand, has always had nothing but great things to say about Marquette from the moment he left.  Same with Wojo.

Character revealed.
Well said.

Been said a million times before and by most every MU fan, the only issue with Crean leaving was how it was done. But in the end, we're all human and he has equated himself well after that misstep on the execution.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: TallTitan34 on November 25, 2024, 10:53:15 AMI'll never be mad at a person for taking another job. 

What pisses me off, however, is Buzz sh!tting all over the school that took a chance on him and the Big East after his departure.  Crean, on the other hand, has always had nothing but great things to say about Marquette from the moment he left.  Same with Wojo.

Character revealed.

Great post. There was absolutely NO excuse for Buzz acting the way he did.

I got a lot of flack a couple of years ago that I thought he didn't give a rat's ass late in the season that he left Marquette. I think I joked that he was probably working on the contract (that he was so proud of writing himself) for the VT job while the games were in progress. Maybe he was.  ;D
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Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: reinko on November 25, 2024, 10:47:44 AMBut they are relishing in every tough moment Cooley has, and seem quite happy with the Kim English era.

Providence fans are just experiencing new relationship energy. English still needs to produce results because sooner or later the NRE will wear off.

DoctorV

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 25, 2024, 12:06:35 PMProvidence fans are just experiencing new relationship energy. English still needs to produce results because sooner or later the NRE will wear off.

How does NRE compare to BDE, with regards to sustainability and long term success?

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: DoctorV on November 25, 2024, 12:42:41 PMHow does NRE compare to BDE, with regards to sustainability and long term success?

Dan Hurley has BDE and he just won back to back titles.

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