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wisblue

Quote from: tower912 on November 16, 2024, 02:55:37 PMI like how Shaka describes Adrien Stevens as a bigger, stronger Stevie.

Stevie and who in a blender?

Jay Bee

If a key player went down (not going to type a name and jinx us), I actually wouldn't put it past Stevie to heftily ramp up his usage & scoring. Just a stud
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BM1090

Quote from: Jay Bee on November 16, 2024, 04:21:55 PMIf a key player went down (not going to type a name and jinx us), I actually wouldn't put it past Stevie to heftily ramp up his usage & scoring. Just a stud

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rocket surgeon

regarding adrien stevens-cannot get wrapped up in the player "rankings" as they have no basis for "heart" and/or ability to "steve-ify.  in other words, it takes a special coach to look deeper into a players eyes and see potential for growth and improvement

love hearing the comparison of any player to stevie
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mug644

Quote from: Goose on November 16, 2024, 01:37:59 PM...

To me the question is will Stevie be remembered in the manner he should be after he leaves MU. IMO he will be one of those guys that his legacy will grow after his days at MU are over. His accomplishments will seem bigger and better than maybe the actual truth and that will be confirmation of the type he was while at MU.

Let's name some glue guys like Stevie from the past. Who truly meant more to their team(s) than the stats showed? Who, who did so, was a 4 year player?

Morsell is a good starting point, especially as her mentored Stevie. Maybe Juan Anderson, in hindsight offered such leadership? Trent Lockett who was pretty unheralded for most of his year at MU? Obviously, Travis was notable as a leader, but he was the statistical leader in a way that Stevie has never been. I've been following MU b-ball since the late 70s and I can't, off the top of my head, think of anyone else like Stevie.

Stevie's legacy MUST be remembered, not only for his leaderhip on the teams during his tenure but for his impact on the program.

PGsHeroes32

Would be cool for Stevie to end up joining the 1,000 pt club

As of now if you just assume the minimum amount of games, 1 BET and 1 NCAA/NIT(I sure as heck hope its not the NIT) he needs to average 11 ppg for the rest of the year. He's at 11.3 through 4 games.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

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Mug644

Stevie should and will have an A+ legacy in my book. Like you, I've been watching MU basketball for quite some time and Stevie is a special individual in MU history. That said, it is based on the both on his playing and what he is as person.

wisblue

On the original question in the thread, Mitchell is not the kind of player who is going to get a lot of national attention. That kind of attention goes to flashy players with gaudy point totals and/or highlight reel plays. Maybe he would get more attention if he played on one of the super powers that regularly appears in big national games. Dare I say that he could be compared to someone like Wojo at Duke who got a lot of attention for pounding the floor.

But he gets his due from the announcers who cover MU games and do their homework watching film and talking to coaches. He also gets recognition from fans of his team. He is going to get the biggest cheers on Senior Day.

I think if you dug deep you would find some players similar to him on teams with lower profiles than a successful power conference team. He would be a great fit on the better Ivy League teams like Yale or Princeton and for them he would likely score more.

rgoode57

It is hard to believe that, after three full years of outstanding performance, there are still a few out there who do not understand Stevie's importance to the team. This year, he is perhaps the heart and soul of the team, and in past years he has been a key contributor. He is the epitome of what you want a player to be - hard working, unselfish, willing to do the dirty work. You cannot say enough good things about Stevie. There are always guys who can shoot, score points, etc but there are very few players like Stevie.

BM1090

If Stevie were 6'5 instead of 6'3 I think he'd have a real NBA shot as a end of roster defender and morale type guy.

The Sultan

Quote from: BM1090 on November 17, 2024, 02:08:01 PMIf Stevie were 6'5 instead of 6'3 I think he'd have a real NBA shot as a end of roster defender and morale type guy.

Yep. And he'd be able to hit enough from the outside to be respected.
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BM1090

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 17, 2024, 02:10:24 PMYep. And he'd be able to hit enough from the outside to be respected.

Yep. Not fully ready to write off his chances but it'd take a perfect fit

Hards Alumni

Quote from: MU82 on November 16, 2024, 09:54:43 AMThere undoubtedly were "better" players than Stevie available in the portal. Would a few of them actually have been a better fit for Marquette? Would any of them? Not sure, but obviously we'll never know.

Look at the well-traveled AJ Storr. He was recruited ($) by St. John's, he transferred ($$) to Madison so he could be a team's alpha, and he transferred again ($$$$) to Kansas to chase money and a title.

He's taller than Stevie, he's been a better shooter than Stevie, he averaged nearly twice as many points as Stevie last season. But would you have rather had him than Stevie? Maybe Gard and Self would say yes, but I doubt Shaka would. Nor would I.

Storr is a basketball mercenary, as is the case with many in the portal who might be "better" than Stevie. They go to the highest bidder and then move on. I'm sure most of them play hard when during their short stay with each team, but they are basketball mercenaries. Being a Jayhawk or a Badger or a Johnny ... what's the diff? It's a uniform and a paycheck.

Stevie is a warrior. A Marquette freakin' warrior to the core. As last night illustrated (again!), thank goodness we have him.

Gard would have taken Stevie over AJ every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Jay Bee on November 16, 2024, 04:21:55 PMIf a key player went down (not going to type a name and jinx us), I actually wouldn't put it past Stevie to heftily ramp up his usage & scoring. Just a stud

I agree.  He was a scorer in high school and is absolutely capable.

StillWarriors

Quote from: Goose on November 17, 2024, 12:43:55 AMMug644

Stevie should and will have an A+ legacy in my book. Like you, I've been watching MU basketball for quite some time and Stevie is a special individual in MU history. That said, it is based on the both on his playing and what he is as person.

Couldn't agree more with this. Have heard great things about him from students who have been in classes with him, and his joy and selflessness on and around the basketball team are obvious from all the coverage of the team. I will be very interested to see what path he pursues next. No doubt he will have some great options and he has a very bright future no matter what path he pursues. He will also be a great representative of MU and the basketball program wherever he goes. In this age of college sports, it is a treat to have multi-year players like Kam, Stevie, Jop, Ben and hopefully many more going forward.

I really enjoy seeing the growth and it enables me to root for more than a jersey. It is easy to become invested in these kids and truly root for their success and futures. Thank you, Shaka and staff.

MUfan12

Quote from: StillWarriors on November 18, 2024, 09:21:34 AMIn this age of college sports, it is a treat to have multi-year players like Kam, Stevie, Jop, Ben and hopefully many more going forward.

I really enjoy seeing the growth and it enables me to root for more than a jersey. It is easy to become invested in these kids and truly root for their success and futures. Thank you, Shaka and staff.

Well said. Stevie is a special, special kid. One of my favorites to have worn the jersey.

Having these guys here and watching them grow up, there's a bond and a connection that does manifest itself at home games. It's really incredible how much the students and fans have embraced the team's culture.

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