2024-25 Big East Poll Rankings, NET Rankings and Team Sheets

[Newsdreams]

Creighton moved up, MU remains status quo.

Unacceptable, Muggsy should take care of this pronto

[MU82]

Creighton moved up, MU remains status quo.

Tells you how Creighton has fallen - lose by "only" 8 and move up.

[wadesworld]

Tells you how Creighton has fallen - lose by "only" 8 and move up.

McDermott is screwing the Big East.

[MarquetteMike1977]

Marquette leads the nation and is the only team with 7 Combined Quad 1 and Quad 2 Wins! But it will change tomorrow as Auburn will tie us with 7

[The Thing]

Marquette leads the nation and is the only team with 7 Combined Quad 1 and Quad 2 Wins! But it will change tomorrow as Auburn will tie us with 7

I have been throwing this stat out there too but it is wrong. Memphis has 9 combined Q1 and Q2 wins (6-0 Q2). Auburn and MU are tied for second with 7.

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of January 4, 2025
New Old
10   9   Marquette   
17   13   UConn   
39   38   St. John's
51   61   Villanova
61   62   Creighton   
62   60   Xavier   
73   75   Georgetown   
79   78   Butler   
89   88   Providence   
104   90   DePaul   
196   199   Seton Hall   

January 5 Team Sheets. MU is 10
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2025/net-teamsheets-plus

[Newsdreams]

The NET completely hates MU

[Uncle Rico]

The NET completely hates MU

Who thinks less of MU?  NET or some scoopers?

[Newsdreams]

Who thinks less of MU?  NET or some scoopers?

This is an easy question to answer, scoopers led by Willard & dentists

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of January 5, 2025
New Old
11   10   Marquette   
22   17   UConn   
38   39   St. John's
50   51   Villanova   
59   61   Creighton   
62   62   Xavier   
73   73   Georgetown   
78   79   Butler   
82   89   Providence   
106   104   DePaul   
198   196   Seton Hall   

January 6 Team Sheets. MU is 11
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2025/net-teamsheets-plus

[FairWeatherEagle]

Hoping on attrition to rise. We will (should) win the next 6 until a critical 3 game set: UCONN, @STJ, @CR
that's where we earn top 5 poll, top 5 KP, and 1-seed standing.

[brewcity77]

Hoping on attrition to rise. We will (should) win the next 6 until a critical 3 game set: UCONN, @STJ, @CR
that's where we earn top 5 poll, top 5 KP, and 1-seed standing.

I think the most dangerous game before NMD is tomorrow. Thomas Sorber is awesome and Georgetown has been playing like a top-10 team when he's on the floor. Cooley has figured that out and he's playing 34.6 mpg in conference play. I'm glad they're undefeated, because they would be easy to overlook otherwise.

Another thing to note, if we're going to get to a 1-seed our biggest barrier are the predictive metrics. We need to outperform our point spreads if we want to get up there. It's not just the winning, but winning big. Otherwise, with Iowa State, Duke, and the strength at the top of the SEC, we might be stuck on a 2-seed.

[DoctorV]

Thanks Brew, always helpful.

So beat everyone big, lose 3x or less from now until selection Sunday, have a ton of fun along the way and get the 1 seed.

The fellas got this!

[tower912]

Giddyup

[Newsdreams]

I thought consensus on Scoop is the next game is the most important game.

[MU82]

Given Marquette basketball history since the late-1970s, the phrase "stuck on a 2-seed" makes me pretty happy for some reason.

[We R Final Four]

Forgive my ignorance...so #1 seeds make the FF.....#2 seeds lose in the first round?

16 or 15
7 or 8
3 or 4
2 vs 1.

Similar level competition regardless. I for one would love another #2 seed. If we could get a #1 thats great. Shaka isnt going to "win big" vs the spread to get a 1 seed. He would rather get run for Tre, Zaide, DO, Caedin, Royce over the next 1.5 months which will pay dividends in the tourney.

[brewcity77]

Forgive my ignorance...so #1 seeds make the FF.....#2 seeds lose in the first round?

16 or 15
7 or 8
3 or 4
2 vs 1.

Similar level competition regardless. I for one would love another #2 seed. If we could get a #1 thats great. Shaka isnt going to "win big" vs the spread to get a 1 seed. He would rather get run for Tre, Zaide, DO, Caedin, Royce over the next 1.5 months which will pay dividends in the tourney.

When it comes to winning a national championship, you can do it from a 2 or 3 seed, but the odds go way down. Here are the results by seed:

1-seed: 25 (64.1%) - Last was 2024 UConn
2-seed: 5 (12.8%) - Last was 2016 Villanova
3-seed: 4 (10.3%) - Last was 2011 UConn
4-seed: 2 (5.1%) - Last was 2023 UConn
5-seed: 0 (0.0%)
6-seed: 1 (2.6%) - Last was 1988 Kansas
7-seed: 1 (2.6%) - Last was 2014 UConn
8-seed: 1 (2.6%) - Last was 1985 Villanova

Kind of crazy how Villanova and UConn are so prominent outside the 1-seeds. Of the 14 non-1-seed teams to win the title, Villanova and UConn account for 6 of those championships.

[Newsdreams]

It is true the 5 seed is cursed!

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

When it comes to winning a national championship, you can do it from a 2 or 3 seed, but the odds go way down. Here are the results by seed:

1-seed: 25 (64.1%) - Last was 2024 UConn
2-seed: 5 (12.8%) - Last was 2016 Villanova
3-seed: 4 (10.3%) - Last was 2011 UConn
4-seed: 2 (5.1%) - Last was 2023 UConn
5-seed: 0 (0.0%)
6-seed: 1 (2.6%) - Last was 1988 Kansas
7-seed: 1 (2.6%) - Last was 2014 UConn
8-seed: 1 (2.6%) - Last was 1985 Villanova

Kind of crazy how Villanova and UConn are so prominent outside the 1-seeds. Of the 14 non-1-seed teams to win the title, Villanova and UConn account for 6 of those championships.

I love that 6/7 of the last champions are in the BEast

[bradforster]

Since the birth of kenpom in 2002, all but two National Champions finished the season ranked in the top 20 in both offensive and defensive efficiency.  The two outliers - UConn in 2014 and Baylor in 2021.  Below is a list of National Champions by year and their corresponding kenpom ratings.

KENPOM RATINGS           
Year    Team            O Rating  D Rating
2002    Maryland            4           7
2003    Syracuse            17          14
2004    UConn                9            6
2005    North Carolina   2            5
2006    Florida                3            7
2007    Florida                1           13
2008    Kansas                2           1
2009    North Carolina   1           18
2010    Duke                   1           5
2011    UConn               19          15
2012    Kentucky             2           7
2013    Louisville             7           1
2014    UConn                39         10
2015    Duke                   3           11
2016    Villanova             3           5
2017    North Carolina    9          11
2018    Villanova             1          11
2019    Virginia               2           5
2020    N/A       
2021    Baylor                 2           22
2022    Kansas                6           17
2023    UConn                3            7
2024    UConn                1            4

[MU82]

If I read my kenpom table correctly - and I'm sure someone will say if I'm not - we are now 15 on offense and 16 on defense.

[Herman Cain]

Big East Poll Ranking January 6, 2025
AP
7. MU
9. U Conn
Others Receiving Votes
Johnnies, Georgetown, X
Coaches
6.MU
10. U Conn
Others Receiving Votes
Johnnies

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of January 5, 2025
New Old
11   11   Marquette   
23   22   UConn   
38   38   St. John's
50   50   Villanova   
59   59   Creighton   
61   62   Xavier   
73   73   Georgetown   
78   78   Butler   
81   82   Providence   
109   106   DePaul   
200   198   Seton Hall

January 7 Team Sheets . MU is 11.
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2025/net-teamsheets-plus

[MarquetteMike1977]

Marquette is tied yet with Auburn and Oregon for the most combined Quad 1 and 2 Wins in the Nation with 7.
Marquette has the 2nd most Quad 1 Wins in the Nation with 5.
Marquette is also 2nd in the Nation in WAB.
The NET Rankings have a new metric this season called WAB — Wins Above Bubble. It's used to evaluate how many more wins a team has compared to what an NCAA Tournament "bubble" team would be expected to have against the same schedule, using the NET Rankings as the basis for opponent strength.