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Pakuni

Quote from: CTWarrior on October 01, 2024, 02:28:38 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa.  Don't want to get into politics, but Nixon was a great president, and what he got impeached for was nothing compared to what the current politicians on both sides of the aisle do.  He won his second term by a landslide for a reason.  Weird and paranoid dude, no doubt.

I'd suggest the state of Democratic Party at the time and the success of the GOP's Southern Strategy had as much to do with the results as anything Nixon did in office.
He wasn't the worst president in terms of policy, but "great" seems a bit much. His economic policies left a lot to be desired.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: MU82 on October 01, 2024, 03:02:49 PM
Nixon did passed some very good policy - some stuff that today would be labeled "woke" or even "commie."

But 1. He let tens of thousands of young American men die unnecessarily in a war he let drag on for far too long, and 2. He was a raging racist and antisemite.

For those reasons alone, Nixon was nowhere near "great." And there were other reasons, too.

He deserved to get impeached because of the cover-up, but I agree that the actual Watergate incident does seem quaint now compared to the various treasonous, unethical, immoral, illegal and cruel acts of the man historians selected as the WOAT.

Nixon was a big time mama's boy! Very weird dude, which I guess most people who run for this office have to be.

He also intentionally prolonged an international crisis for political gain (Vietnam).

Also Reagan most likely delayed the release of the hostages.

Corrupt birds of a feather aina
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

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Lennys Tap

Quote from: CTWarrior on October 01, 2024, 02:28:38 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa.  Don't want to get into politics, but Nixon was a great president, and what he got impeached for was nothing compared to what the current politicians on both sides of the aisle do.  He won his second term by a landslide for a reason.  Weird and paranoid dude, no doubt.

He won a largest of the popular vote landslide in recorded history - 60.7%.

The Sultan

Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 01, 2024, 03:41:01 PM
He won a largest of the popular vote landslide in recorded history - 60.7%.

And had an approval rating of of 69% just after he was inaugurated for his second term. That fell to 24% just before he resigned - less than two years later.

It seems like we are glossing over the main reason why historians view him as a poor president.

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 01, 2024, 03:41:01 PM
He won a largest of the popular vote landslide in recorded history - 60.7%.

LBJ, 1964.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Viper on October 01, 2024, 11:54:32 AM
Iran hostage crisis is his mark, of course. Soviet grain embargo was I'll conceived, among other decisions. But, America wanted change after Nixon, Ford.  Carter did some good in bringing awareness to Habitat for Humanity's mission, so there's that. And, 100 yrs old is incredible.

Like Tower said, a much better man than a president. In addition to the things you mention he also boycotted the 1980 Olympics which imo was beyond foolish. All of our athletes punished while Russia laughed all the to the medal stand. We sure showed 'em!

tower912

Then the Russians turned around and boycotted the 84 LA games.  With American athletes laughing all of the way to the medal stand.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: tower912 on October 01, 2024, 03:53:19 PM
Then the Russians turned around and boycotted the 84 LA games.  With American athletes laughing all of the way to the medal stand.

Yep. They really showed us, eh? Dumb and dumber.

Spaniel with a Short Tail

Quote from: tower912 on October 01, 2024, 08:45:54 AM
A better former president than president.  A better man than president.

Agree. Happy Birthday President Carter.

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on October 01, 2024, 08:38:26 AM
Great statesman and contributor to society for 40+ years. In that regard, perhaps the best ex-president ever?


Taft became a professor at Yale for a few years, then chief justice of the supreme court for nearly a decade after he lost election.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

I call him Jimmy Butler for how dedicated he is to serving the people
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

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Scoop Snoop

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 02, 2024, 11:24:19 AM

Taft became a professor at Yale for a few years, then chief justice of the supreme court for nearly a decade after he lost election.

I've read that the Chief Justice position was what he really wanted, more so than the presidency.

He weighed over 350 lbs. but apparently the story of him getting stuck in a bathtub in the White House is bogus. A special order, 41-inch-wide tub was installed in the WH for him though.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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Viper

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 01, 2024, 12:31:54 PM
Yeah, anyone who thinks Joe Biden is the worst president of their lifetime, and that lifetime included the likes of Nixon, Carter and Trump, is way too obsessed with current politics.
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Viper

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 01, 2024, 02:44:55 PM
The bolded isn't accurate. He participated in the covering up of a felony whose primary purpose was to steal information from an opposing candidate's party. What politicians do that now?
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The Sultan

Your first picture doesn't address anything.

Your second picture implies that Bill Clinton was as bad as Nixon, but I specifically said cover up a felony. Clinton didn't do that.

And it would be helpful if you could learn how to imbed images into a post and not attach them.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 02, 2024, 12:02:13 PM
Your first picture doesn't address anything.

Your second picture implies that Bill Clinton was as bad as Nixon, but I specifically said cover up a felony. Clinton didn't do that.

One thing all of them have in common?  They'd have known Tyler Kolek would play in the NBA by watching him at Marquette
Guster is for Lovers

wadesworld

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 02, 2024, 12:03:15 PM
One thing all of them have in common?  They'd have known Tyler Kolek would play in the NBA by watching him at Marquette

Kolek's attitude may keep him out of the NBA.

The Sultan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 02, 2024, 12:03:15 PM
One thing all of them have in common?  They'd have known Tyler Kolek would play in the NBA by watching him at Marquette

To be fair, they didn't see him lose to RED three straight years and have their brothers in law make fun of them.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on October 02, 2024, 11:47:17 AM
I've read that the Chief Justice position was what he really wanted, more so than the presidency.

He weighed over 350 lbs. but apparently the story of him getting stuck in a bathtub in the White House is bogus. A special order, 41-inch-wide tub was installed in the WH for him though.

The Taft name is all over buildings around New Haven.

I visited his childhood home in Cincinnati.  Apparently, he fell off a horse as a teenager and banged his head on a curb and they think it damaged something in his brain that caused him to gain weight and be unable to lose.

Viper

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 02, 2024, 12:02:13 PM
Your first picture doesn't address anything.

Your second picture implies that Bill Clinton was as bad as Nixon, but I specifically said cover up a felony. Clinton didn't do that.

And it would be helpful if you could learn how to imbed images into a post and not attach them.
first pic needs no explanation.
Give me a great economy, strong private sector, low/no inflation, record high GDP, properly equipped military, energy independence, border security and world tyrants in the corral. Trump accomplished this. Reagan's second term was incredibly strong, Trumps pre-Covid was a close second. Enjoy the prosperity of Trump again...or we all suffer the shiit show of Biden II...Harris/Walz.
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wadesworld

Quote from: Viper on October 02, 2024, 02:22:52 PM
first pic needs no explanation.
Give me a great economy, strong private sector, low/no inflation, record high GDP, properly equipped military, energy independence, border security and world tyrants in the corral. Trump accomplished this. Reagan's second term was incredibly strong, Trumps pre-Covid was a close second. Enjoy the prosperity of Trump again...or we all suffer the shiit show of Biden II...Harris/Walz.

Lol.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Viper on October 02, 2024, 02:22:52 PM
first pic needs no explanation.
Give me a great economy, strong private sector, low/no inflation, record high GDP, properly equipped military, energy independence, border security and world tyrants in the corral. Trump accomplished this. Reagan's second term was incredibly strong, Trumps pre-Covid was a close second. Enjoy the prosperity of Trump again...or we all suffer the shiit show of Biden II...Harris/Walz.

Trump doesn't think Kolek will play in the NBA either
Guster is for Lovers

Viper

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 02, 2024, 12:07:43 PM
To be fair, they didn't see him lose to RED three straight years and have their brothers in law make fun of them.
we agree! Can Shaka get it done this year? Or, will bro-in-law laugh on? High stress in December!!
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rocket surgeon

jimmy livin la vida loca...only stain on his legacy is 4 years in the wh and what a stain that left, but different from the blue dress, eyn'a?
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

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