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tower912

Me to a conservative friend in 2016:   You know you are just parroting Russian propaganda, right?

Him:  Nah, they are parroting me.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: tower912 on September 05, 2024, 07:21:58 PM
Me to a conservative friend in 2016:   You know you are just parroting Russian propaganda, right?

Him:  Nah, they are parroting me.
Yes indeed.

These pathetic fucks are now all CYA, "how we possibly have known these insane sums were tainted?"

But you know what they aren't doing? They aren't disavowing the actual content...because they 100% believe in and align with Russia.

As does Tuckems, as does Musk, as does one of the major party candidates for President who has consistently sided with Russia over the U.S.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

jesmu84

There's clearly a LOT of money out there for anyone on the right who wants to make money

rocky_warrior

Quote from: jesmu84 on September 05, 2024, 07:54:37 PM
There's clearly a LOT of money out there for anyone on the right who wants to make money

Again.  Careful.  There's a lot of money in Russian disinformation.  Right wingers called out this time.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: tower912 on September 05, 2024, 05:34:26 PM
Can you imagine the party of Reagan siding with the leader of Russia?

Intentionally? No. The party of Bernie Sanders or Kamala Harris? Yes.

But also, like Rocky says, neither party is immune from being duped.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 05, 2024, 08:07:27 PM
Intentionally? No. The party of Bernie Sanders or Kamala Harris? Yes.

But also, like Rocky says, neither party is immune from being duped.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*catches breath*

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Guster is for Lovers

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 05, 2024, 08:07:27 PM
Intentionally? No. The party of Bernie Sanders or Kamala Harris? Yes.

But also, like Rocky says, neither party is immune from being duped.

Yes, I hate it when Bernie and Kamala keep siding with Putin. Yes, indeed.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

jesmu84

#83
Quote from: rocky_warrior on September 05, 2024, 07:57:38 PM
Again.  Careful.  There's a lot of money in Russian disinformation.  Right wingers called out this time.

I guess I'm not seeing a lot of "rich" lefty/progressive voices.
Like $400k/month rich.

TYT might be the most well off?

And even beyond Russia, there's a TON of wealthy/elite money from US sources for similar voices.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 05, 2024, 08:07:27 PM
Intentionally? No. The party of Bernie Sanders or Kamala Harris? Yes.

There are social agendas you may or may not disagree with. 

And then there is Russia.  You can't be pro Russia.

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: rocky_warrior on September 05, 2024, 08:16:39 PM
There are social agendas you may or may not disagree with. 

And then there is Russia.  You can't be pro Russia.

Dang it Ron Johnson!
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 05, 2024, 08:07:27 PM
Intentionally? No. The party of Bernie Sanders or Kamala Harris? Yes.

But also, like Rocky says, neither party is immune from being duped.

I guess projection is easier than introspection
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

rocky_warrior

Quote from: jesmu84 on September 05, 2024, 08:16:21 PM
And even beyond Russia, there's a TON of wealthy/elite money from US sources for similar voices.

Don't get me wrong China likes to create US political problem too.  Lots of money in creating political turmoil. 

But if money is flowing for those purposes, it's probably originating from those two sources... Or dumb people that believe them.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on September 05, 2024, 08:20:52 PM
I guess projection is easier than introspection

"Florida Man Says Republican Support for Russia Unintentional, Really Democrats Who Keep Siding With Putin"
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

JWags85

Quote from: jesmu84 on September 05, 2024, 08:16:21 PM
I guess I'm not seeing a lot of "rich" lefty/progressive voices.
Like $400k/month rich.

TYT might be the most well off?

And even beyond Russia, there's a TON of wealthy/elite money from US sources for similar voices.

Then you're not really looking.  There are tons of lefty/progressive accounts with 500K+ Twitter followers, plenty with more.

There are also "progressive" accounts that have been called out in the Russian web that was spoken about the last few days.  The difference is they are REALLY far left that they think the Dems/The US government aren't liberal enough so they hate on them too.

jesmu84

#90
Quote from: JWags85 on September 05, 2024, 09:33:39 PM
Then you're not really looking.  There are tons of lefty/progressive accounts with 500K+ Twitter followers, plenty with more.

There are also "progressive" accounts that have been called out in the Russian web that was spoken about the last few days.  The difference is they are REALLY far left that they think the Dems/The US government aren't liberal enough so they hate on them too.

Fair.

I suppose I'm considering those that would be considered the progressive/left equivalents of rubin, pool, etc.

I wouldn't consider rubin/pool/etc to be super far right.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: jesmu84 on September 05, 2024, 09:42:03 PM
I might not understand.

Does 500k Twitter followers make one $400k/month wealthy?

There's probably also a difference if someone is being paid by an outside source directly vs building followers organically resulting in revenue generation

https://buzzoid.com/buy-instagram-followers/


Pakuni

Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 05, 2024, 08:07:27 PM
Intentionally? No. The party of Bernie Sanders or Kamala Harris? Yes.

But also, like Rocky says, neither party is immune from being duped.

It was so weird how Tucker got lost on his vacation  and wound up in Moscow spewing pro-Russian propaganda.

Or how the party's standard bearer mistakenly said Russia can do "whatever the hell it wants" to certain NATO members.

Or how that same guy forgot to condemn the murder of Alexei Navalny.

Whoops!

rocky_warrior

Quote from: jesmu84 on September 05, 2024, 09:47:11 PM
Well you'd have to have money up front to be able to afford that, no?

A couple hundred thousand followers for a couple hundred bucks.

Are you guys actually living under rocks?

jesmu84

Quote from: rocky_warrior on September 05, 2024, 09:49:29 PM
A couple hundred thousand followers for a couple hundred bucks.

Are you guys actually living under rocks?

So does 500k Twitter followers equate to $400k/month income?

JWags85

#96
Quote from: jesmu84 on September 05, 2024, 09:42:03 PM
I might not understand.

Does 500k Twitter followers make one $400k/month wealthy?

There's probably also a difference if someone is being paid by an outside source directly vs building followers organically resulting in revenue generation

I'm not talking about their "organic" revenue sources from Twitter payouts or brand deals or anything.  But those sort of followings are the threshold to become attractive to that sort of outside influence/source.  Its enough to have plenty of eyeballs and also get the engagement that triggers algorithms to push the content to the front.

Its not like that clown Tim Pool is a Kardashian or Cristiano Ronaldo that has 50MM+ followers.  He has 2MM.  There are plenty of lefty shill/propogandist voices that have numbers approaching that.

EDIT:
Quote from: jesmu84 on September 05, 2024, 09:51:13 PM
So does 500k Twitter followers equate to $400k/month income?

What are you even talking about? 

The $400K is supposedly what people were getting paid by Russian proxies.  They viewed the people that they targeted with that sort of follower amount as worthwhile for that sort of sum. 

You claimed, I guess, that there were no leftist voices that were making $400K from social media a month (which alone isn't remotely true at all).  Which isn't what we were talking about.  I was stating that there are plenty of people on the opposite side of the fence who have followings/influence equal to that of people being named the last few days that would attract (and likely have attracted) offers of that nature.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: jesmu84 on September 05, 2024, 09:51:13 PM
So does 500k Twitter followers equate to $400k/month income?

No, but you'd take it if it only involved refuting destists takes on muscoop.

jesmu84

Quote from: JWags85 on September 05, 2024, 09:52:07 PM
I'm not talking about their "organic" revenue sources from Twitter payouts or brand deals or anything.  But those sort of followings are the threshold to become attractive to that sort of outside influence/source.  Its enough to have plenty of eyeballs and also get the engagement that triggers algorithms to push the content to the front.

Its not like that clown Tim Pool is a Kardashian or Cristiano Ronaldo that has 50MM+ followers.  He has 2MM.  There are plenty of lefty shill/propogandist voices that have numbers approaching that.

I understand.

My OP was my own observations that more mainstream right commentators seem significantly well funded compared to equivalents on the left, regardless of funding source.

jesmu84

Quote from: JWags85 on September 05, 2024, 09:52:07 PM
I'm not talking about their "organic" revenue sources from Twitter payouts or brand deals or anything.  But those sort of followings are the threshold to become attractive to that sort of outside influence/source.  Its enough to have plenty of eyeballs and also get the engagement that triggers algorithms to push the content to the front.

Its not like that clown Tim Pool is a Kardashian or Cristiano Ronaldo that has 50MM+ followers.  He has 2MM.  There are plenty of lefty shill/propogandist voices that have numbers approaching that.

EDIT:
What are you even talking about? 

The $400K is supposedly what people were getting paid by Russian proxies.  They viewed the people that they targeted with that sort of follower amount as worthwhile for that sort of sum. 

You claimed, I guess, that there were no leftist voices that were making $400K from social media a month (which alone isn't remotely true at all).  Which isn't what we were talking about.  I was stating that there are plenty of people on the opposite side of the fence who have followings/influence equal to that of people being named the last few days that would attract (and likely have attracted) offers of that nature.

Response to your edit: sorry if my OP was a verbal mess. I was simply trying to compare/contrast funding of equivalent right and left commentators.

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