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BM1090

I'm surprised by the concession complaints, honestly. I order on the app and it's always ready within 5 minutes and i pick it up at a TV timeout.

100% agree that the BC was louder.

The Sultan

Yeah, I think FF is much better than the BC and I don't think its particularly close. The concessions aren't great, but they aren't great at a lot of places right now.
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Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 07, 2024, 01:00:07 PM
I think Fiserv is an arm and a leg better than BC but I also never get concessions at games maybe that would change my opinion.

Agree with this. I also don't get concessions - we fuel up before and after games - and I much prefer FF.
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The Lens

Quote from: MUfan12 on August 07, 2024, 12:09:50 PM
I may be in the minority on this, but while the sightlines are better at FF, the BC was a better fan experience than Fiserv post-COVID.

Concessions were nothing to write home about, but they were staffed, and at a more reasonable price. The concourses were wider and you could move more freely. And frankly the place was louder since they weren't worried about concert acoustics.

We're the only city in America that has gone backwards with each new NBA Arena.

The MECCA had an Ice Cream Parlor and Gameroom FFS.

But yes, BC over FF all day long. FF has some great sightlines and the wall of fans in the west endzone is solid but only Buffalo at the FF rivals all those great BC games in terms of noise.   The user experience outside of your seat was 100 times better at the BC and the user experience in your seats is not 100 times better at the FF.

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MUfan12

Quote from: The Lens on August 07, 2024, 01:06:34 PM
But yes, BC over FF all day long. FF has some great sightlines and the wall of fans in the west endzone is solid but only Buffalo at the FF rivals all those great BC games in terms of noise.   The user experience outside of your seat was 100 times better at the BC and the user experience in your seats is not 100 times better at the FF.

BC 4 Ever

For me it comes down to a few things.

1) If you want to meet up with someone at half in another part of the arena it takes forever to get there. Too many choke points around the bars. The BC had the high top tables out of traffic and had more space on the concourses to get by.

2) With concessions it's beer prices/lack of Miller products. I hardly get food anymore unless it's a 6 PM tip, but Chick Fil A is the only decent option for the price.

3) Upper deck feels detached from the crowd. It's like a f*cking theatre balcony up there. No one gets into it.

Dickthedribbler

My preference is Fiserv over the Bradley Center. Doesn't mean the BC was bad. Just a personal choice ( and nothing to do with the quality of or cost of concessions-----those things are about as far down the list as you can go).

I've seen all 30 MLB teams play at least one game in their home park. Doesn't make me an expert on anything, but it does provide perspective. For outdoor venues, I tend to look at what's around the stadium and how does the site integrate with the neighborhood ( bars, restaurants, hotels, walkability, public transit. Does the park itself have any " character". Big fan of Wrigley and Fenway. And all of the new downtown stadiums. Dodgers, Angels, Marlins, Ray's, Braves, Royals, A's-------not so much.

All this stuff comes down to personal choice. No right or wrong answer.

MUbiz

I attended MU during the Crean days, so I appreciate how loud BC could get.  I now go to about 6 games a year at Fiserv. Other than beer being much cheaper at BC, I enjoy the Fiserv experience much better in general. BC was a dump towards the end of it and I do not care about concessions as pretty much every concession at any stadium that I have been too has been less quality post covid.

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Quote from: MUfan12 on August 07, 2024, 12:09:50 PM
I may be in the minority on this, but while the sightlines are better at FF, the BC was a better fan experience than Fiserv post-COVID.

Concessions were nothing to write home about, but they were staffed, and at a more reasonable price. The concourses were wider and you could move more freely. And frankly the place was louder since they weren't worried about concert acoustics.

This is more of a country wide issue, nothing to do with the Fiserv.

Viper

Loudest game, college or pro, I've ever been to...MECCA 1986 UNC at MU. Ears still ring.  Close 2nd was ND at MU when Doc buzzer beat em. I liked the BC. It was loud and had more concourse elbow room, but FF is really good. It elevates Milwaukee, imo. Still has the new car feel...hopefully a recruiting asset, is plenty loud for big games...also hopefully a recruiting asset, solid sight lines from most vantage points. Even if Miller HQ long ago left Milwaukee...come on man, can I get a Lite?
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Quote from: Viper on August 07, 2024, 07:02:00 PM
Loudest game, college or pro, I've ever been to...MECCA 1986 UNC at MU. Ears still ring.  Close 2nd was ND at MU when Doc buzzer beat em.

Loudest for me was when we beat Duke at the Dane County Coliseum my sophomore year. 2nd loudest was the same as your 2nd loudest, at the Arena my junior year.
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4everwarriors

Bradley Center was a concrete tomb built for hockey. Good riddance to that dump. Wouldn't eat da chit served at any of these holes, hey?
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Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 07, 2024, 07:22:31 PM
Bradley Center was a concrete tomb built for hockey. Good riddance to that dump. Wouldn't eat da chit served at any of these holes, hey?
Agreed.....the FF was specifically built for basketball.....BC was a fantastic building for hockey, not so much for basketball.

UWW2MU

Overall FF is way better than the BC.  I think the noise level varies greatly based on the seats you're in though.  Some areas it seems loud, others pretty quiet. 

My biggest issues are:

1. Logistics in the building... namely the fact that the only obvious choice for getting around are the escalators at the front.  It's a huge bottleneck and meeting people on the upper or lower concourse when you're on the opposite (or meeting at panorama club area) leaves little time during the half.  There's nothing you can do about this now... so meh, oh well.

2. Concessions!  This is all on the Bucks owners... all their issues are $$ and lean operations related. Ordered options are confusing b/c some things can be orderedon the app, some not.  Some things are open for some games, some are not (presumably based on attendance... but I've seen plenty of sold out games have a lot of closed stands).  And getting food made can be quick and high quality, but if they premade a lot of popular items you can end up with soggy nasty food.  So one time a burger and fries could be excellent and the next time be so bad I don't want to finish it.

I won't complain about food and beverage prices... because that just seems to be the nature everywhen when you're a captive audience.  All I'd really ask of them is consistency in availability and quality so I know what I'm getting.


wadesworld

Quote from: UWW2MU on August 12, 2024, 11:14:59 AM
Overall FF is way better than the BC.  I think the noise level varies greatly based on the seats you're in though.  Some areas it seems loud, others pretty quiet. 

My biggest issues are:

1. Logistics in the building... namely the fact that the only obvious choice for getting around are the escalators at the front.  It's a huge bottleneck and meeting people on the upper or lower concourse when you're on the opposite (or meeting at panorama club area) leaves little time during the half.  There's nothing you can do about this now... so meh, oh well.

2. Concessions!  This is all on the Bucks owners... all their issues are $$ and lean operations related. Ordered options are confusing b/c some things can be orderedon the app, some not.  Some things are open for some games, some are not (presumably based on attendance... but I've seen plenty of sold out games have a lot of closed stands).  And getting food made can be quick and high quality, but if they premade a lot of popular items you can end up with soggy nasty food.  So one time a burger and fries could be excellent and the next time be so bad I don't want to finish it.

I won't complain about food and beverage prices... because that just seems to be the nature everywhen when you're a captive audience.  All I'd really ask of them is consistency in availability and quality so I know what I'm getting.

The staircases are easy to use and nobody is in them, so you can get to the different levels (and exit the building) very quickly by using those.

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Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 07, 2024, 01:00:07 PM
I think Fiserv is an arm and a leg better than BC but I also never get concessions at games maybe that would change my opinion.

Remember that time we took our kids to the game together and agreed beforehand (at YOUR suggestion) that we wouldn't get one kid ice cream because then they would all beg for it...and then you got ice cream for your daughter?

I 'member.

But seriously, concessions at the FF are terrible tasting, meh service/speed, and terrible $ value.  Unless you're in suites or whatever those first level clubs are called.

Its DJOver

Are concessions really that big of a factor for people? Those with young children that need to be fed I can understand, but I can count on one hand the amount of times I've gotten food at either the BMO or FF combined.  Drinks a few more times, but even then it's limited to unique situations like that special MU beer they had at NMD last year. I go to games to watch basketball and the overall basketball experience at the FF is so far superior to the BMO that I'm amazed this is even a discussion.
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Quote from: Its DJOver on August 12, 2024, 12:30:20 PM
Are concessions really that big of a factor for people? Those with young children that need to be fed I can understand, but I can count on one hand the amount of times I've gotten food at either the BMO or FF combined.  Drinks a few more times, but even then it's limited to unique situations like that special MU beer they had at NMD last year. I go to games to watch basketball and the overall basketball experience at the FF is so far superior to the BMO that I'm amazed this is even a discussion.

Exactly.
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Nukem2

Quote from: Its DJOver on August 12, 2024, 12:30:20 PM
Are concessions really that big of a factor for people? Those with young children that need to be fed I can understand, but I can count on one hand the amount of times I've gotten food at either the BMO or FF combined.  Drinks a few more times, but even then it's limited to unique situations like that special MU beer they had at NMD last year. I go to games to watch basketball and the overall basketball experience at the FF is so far superior to the BMO that I'm amazed this is even a discussion.
Have not bought food at FF or the BC in many years other than for a diet coke and/or a bag of popcorn periodically.

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BM1090

Quote from: wadesworld on August 12, 2024, 12:06:36 PM
The staircases are easy to use and nobody is in them, so you can get to the different levels (and exit the building) very quickly by using those.

Agreed. I get out of FF in like 45 seconds from the 200 level after the game by using the stairs.

DienerTime34

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Quote from: MUfan12 on August 07, 2024, 12:09:50 PM
I may be in the minority on this, but while the sightlines are better at FF, the BC was a better fan experience than Fiserv post-COVID.

Concessions were nothing to write home about, but they were staffed, and at a more reasonable price. The concourses were wider and you could move more freely. And frankly the place was louder since they weren't worried about concert acoustics.

You're not alone. I went from fanatically excited about Fiserv opening to "This place is OK" once the novelty wore off.

An acoustic expert will have to explain how a crazy BC was much louder than a sold-out FF. Maybe the sound echoed off the giant slabs of concrete in that old hockey barn.

Don't get me wrong, Fiserv is a beautiful facility. But its functionality isn't great, concession prices are higher than MSG and I don't think it will age well at all.


MUfan12

Quote from: DienerTime34 on August 12, 2024, 03:12:47 PM

An acoustic expert will have to explain how a crazy BC was much louder than a sold-out FF. Maybe the sound echoed off the giant slabs of concrete in that old hockey barn.


The panels on the roof. Deadens the sound so it doesn't reverberate.

UWW2MU

Quote from: Its DJOver on August 12, 2024, 12:30:20 PM
Are concessions really that big of a factor for people? Those with young children that need to be fed I can understand, but I can count on one hand the amount of times I've gotten food at either the BMO or FF combined.  Drinks a few more times, but even then it's limited to unique situations like that special MU beer they had at NMD last year. I go to games to watch basketball and the overall basketball experience at the FF is so far superior to the BMO that I'm amazed this is even a discussion.

For me, it depends on if it's a weekday and what tipoff time is.  If it's an earlier tip during the week, I often don't have time to get dinner beforehand.  Otherwise I try to avoid it usually unless I'm treating a friend or someone to a game/experience that doesn't usually go.

Either way, I agree... FF experience is far superior to BC overall!  Crazy that some people think otherwise.



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